CNN Reports Ron Paul At 0% While CNN Online Poll Shows Him At 75%

Originally posted by morder1
CNN??

You mean Cartoon News Network? LOL check this Gerald Celente clip from today...

Its obvious the lame stream media doesnt want to endorse Ron Paul, a man who makes more sense than the whole lot of politicians.

Peace

I was going to post this video interview with Gerald Celente, but found that it is already here. Gerald Celente always says it so good, yes CNN is Cartoon Network News. If I watch CNN, or most of any other MSM I get nausea.
So anyway I'm glad someone posted this video and I'm quoting this post so this video gets push even further on down the line in this thread so no one misses watching it.

If Ron Paul supporters are guilty of being fanatical and "pushing the back button" and revoting, what prevents his opponent supporters from doing the same thing? I don't understand that train of thought honestly. Also the term "scientific and non-scientific polls" are misleading because that implies that the scientific ones are:

1) void of flaws
2) somehow related to the scientific method (it's not)
3) are accurate indicators (they CAN be, but shouldn't be assumed to be).

BTW this is coming from a non Ron Paul supporter (I supported him back in 2007, just not now).

Originally posted by kreese
Didn't this sort of thing happen with FOX NEWS a few months ago at a RNC???

Where FOX NEWS edited the coverage of Ron Paul's speech and dubbed the audio with booing and negative feedback from the crowd, when in fact the crowd was actually cheering and applauding?

Can someone please post a link to that video, I cannot find it on Youtube. The ending was hilarious.

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Is this the video you meant, Kreese?

Busted:Fox News CPAC Ron Paul Video Deception
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Originally posted by Chewingonmushrooms
If Ron Paul supporters are guilty of being fanatical and "pushing the back button" and revoting, what prevents his opponent supporters from doing the same thing?

It is the difference between measuring "committment/enthusiasm" by supporters and actual "number" of supporters.

Put it this way, in real elections you may only vote once.

Originally posted by Indigo5

Originally posted by Chewingonmushrooms
If Ron Paul supporters are guilty of being fanatical and "pushing the back button" and revoting, what prevents his opponent supporters from doing the same thing?

It is the difference between measuring "committment/enthusiasm" by supporters and actual "number" of supporters.

Put it this way, in real elections you may only vote once.

And how does your reply answer the question that you quoted me by? I understand the argument made with numbers of votes vs actual number of voters, but my question was: what prevents Mitt supporters from doing the same thing? Or other candidates supporters? Are people implying that all other supporters are "playing by the rules", and how can that be proven? Do you see where I am getting at here?

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That is exactly the problem. Last time around we tried to take the high road and play fair. Look where that got us. Not this time, it is war this time.

What's the deal with all the "online polls are meaningless" posts? I think EVERYONE gets that, but CNN obviously thought the "bogus" poll was important enough to broadcast and tell lies on national T.V. These Ron Paul haters are going to stoop so low as to say that kind of behavior is OK? Unbelievable.

Here we go, here's the nauseating MSM propaganda.

Originally posted by Chewingonmushrooms
If Ron Paul supporters are guilty of being fanatical and "pushing the back button" and revoting, what prevents his opponent supporters from doing the same thing? I don't understand that train of thought honestly. Also the term "scientific and non-scientific polls" are misleading because that implies that the scientific ones are:

1) void of flaws
2) somehow related to the scientific method (it's not)
3) are accurate indicators (they CAN be, but shouldn't be assumed to be).

BTW this is coming from a non Ron Paul supporter (I supported him back in 2007, just not now).

edit on 15-6-2011 by Chewingonmushrooms because: (no reason given)

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Good analysis, Chewing on Mushrooms! For the record, I am a Ron Paul supporter; one of the reasons I (and many others) support him is because I value morals, ethics, integrity, honor, etc.--and he has these qualities. Our country has strayed far from these principles and needs to return to honor, to having decent role models.
Anyway, I have not once "pushed the back button" and revoted.
Most politicians say what the people want to hear, then betray their Oath to the Constitution, betray their constituents, show their true colors--show that they have no morals, ethics, integrity, honor.
I was taught to lead by example; if I would "push the back button" and revote, then imo, I am no better than these crooked politicians I am trying to replace...
It's a fallacy that "Ron Paul supporters push the back button and revote"...perhaps a few, but they are in the minority...

Originally posted by Chewingonmushrooms

And how does your reply answer the question that you quoted me by?

The less than scientific polls "intent" is to measure support by volume, not enthusiasm.

Originally posted by Chewingonmushrooms
what prevents Mitt supporters from doing the same thing? Or other candidates supporters? Are people implying that all other supporters are "playing by the rules", and how can that be proven?

I posted on the last page concerning this. Nothing prevents Mitt Romney supporters from doing the same thing, but if all of the respondants originated from the "ElectMittRomney.com" domain and Romeny got 80% of the poll vote, the poll admins would be forced to question if the poll was valid enough to cite on air.

The RonPaul website had links to the poll and encouraged folks to vote repeatedly. See my post on the last page.

This is a disgrace. I'm not an American but I'm going to complain to them anyway. People can't let sh#t like this slide, your 'democracy' is in serious peril.

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haha ! Media have to be neutral on their job. Here is not. It's a proof that MSM want just control the people's mind.

Originally posted by Indigo5

Originally posted by Chewingonmushrooms

And how does your reply answer the question that you quoted me by?

The less than scientific polls "intent" is to measure support by volume, not enthusiasm.

Originally posted by Chewingonmushrooms
what prevents Mitt supporters from doing the same thing? Or other candidates supporters? Are people implying that all other supporters are "playing by the rules", and how can that be proven?

I posted on the last page concerning this. Nothing prevents Mitt Romney supporters from doing the same thing, but if all of the respondants originated from the "ElectMittRomney.com" domain at Romeny got 80% of the poll vote, the poll admins would be forced to question if the poll was valid enough to cite on air.

The RonPaul website had links to the poll and encouraged folks to vote repeatedly. See my post on the last page.

Yes I agree with the bolded part, which was exactly my point. I am not saying that Ron Paul supporters should be treated any different, but do you honestly believe that he would garner 0% of the votes? Regardless of the methods used by some of his more rabid supporters, contrary to popular belief he does have a decent following and not all of them use said tactics. To have Bachman above him is laughable, so I call into question the choice poll used by CNN. There is absolutely no way he got 0%.

If SNL did a spoof of that debate, they wouldn't even have to rewrite the script,... what a disgusting travesty... thanks corporate media...

Typical msm! Trying to make people think if they vote for him it will be a wasted vote. Please everyone get to the polls and make ron paul our next president! This country needs him! Let's return this couNtry to the people! Long live liberty!

Thank God, the young voters that will vote in 2012 will not vote for these unattractive old geezers and there old founding fathers thinking, im so glad Obama will get 4 more years, it will be very embarrassing for this country and the world to have any of those presidents in office. I feel so sorry for the republicans and the choices you all have…I really do.

And they say that TV and the polls have no influence on the population, BS... the TPTB use TV broadcase for the 'stick & carrot' tricks to manipulate the mass.

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I cannot agree more with ya my Scottish friend!
But what we have here is no democracy, rather it is an elitist republic of the lying, cheating and stealing. We were not always like this as you know, but the more power we gained the more corrupted we became. Once the loopholes in our system were discovered, power hungry men began to utilize them all the way to what you see today, a government that largely ignore the document it was founded upon. It would be like a christian saying they didn't need nor adhere to the bible. You had to read it at least once to know how to be a christian... maybe not all of it, but most of it.

raise a pint to Ron Paul friend, he is America's last hope...

Originally posted by xavi1000
Fox already attacking Ron Paul
from 4:35

I'm a progressive and I disagree with RP on a number of issues, but he's the only candidate I see worthy of becoming our next President.... He was the only one on that panel that served, the only one that can accurately address our current economic issues with historical references and the only one that seems to have a thorough understanding of our monetary system. Fox, just like CNN, is deliberatley trying to make Ron Paul as irrelevant as possible, but the more they do the more people will start paying attention to him and the more the propaganda machine will fail.
I did not vote for Obama and I still have no desire to see Obama as pres for another four years, but only if I know for certain Ron Paul will get nominated. If it's not RP...it's a wasted vote, and another empty suit.

CNN always with their bull#. They actually think that all the people in the World believe everything they say and all the lies they want us to believe. So in this case the truth is .. ?