CNN Reports Ron Paul At 0% While CNN Online Poll Shows Him At 75%

I sent a little question to CNN through Their "feedback" option (really small at the bottom of Their home page...) asking why They broadcast Paul with 0% when I just saw that he was at 81%. Asking Them if this was not just a bit disingenuous.

wow, how dare they give him 0%

at least give him some %

nobody will trust CNN now

I would send this obvious scam to all major news sites, if some runs with it and CNN have to apologise, Ron paul could get a major boost.

Backlash!

reply to post by Kaploink


I agree. I believe people can even vote again and again in the online poll. Nothing told me I had already voted. I voted 3 times.

Not that I don't think there's a conspiracy here. I do. The GOP is definitely trying to keep Ron Paul from running under the R letter or from getting any public support. He would do much better as an Independent, IMO. He should have done that in 2008. His thinking is FAR from the Republican base and the favorites of that party. But the remaining candidates are malleable. Even though they sound like Tea Party hopefuls, they wouldn't carry TP ideals any further than the inauguration. It's GOP all the way after that. Tax the poor and support corporate wealth. That's what we'll get if we put a R back in the White House.

Does anyone smell a conspiracy here?

I mean seriously 0%?

Are they trying to stir emotions?, even an idiot, criminal, half-lobotomized politician that gets national air time, would get a couple percent.

I find it extremely hard to believe they would actually post this data.

I am really glad AshleyD posted it, because it shows manipulation one way or the other.


Something really stinks here.

The problem with Palin is that a lot of her own are recognizing this and just want her to keep raising money for other people. Obama or whatever his name is will run right over Palin.

Palin was rendered politically inert last election due to a comedian...Tina Fey. Simple as that, believe it or not. Her own disastrous interviewee skills were just the nails in the coffin. That perception hasn't changed, so she's got ZERO chance in the election.

Ron Paul's folks really need to get the message out there. Sadly, I don't think they have the pull or the money to do so, but it won't prevent me from voting for the candidate I believe in, vs. who I think can "win"....

Are they trying to stir emotions?, even an idiot, criminal, half-lobotomized politician that gets national air time, would get a couple percent.

Heck, just before Obama, he got elected!

This whole fiasco is just a scam on top of a sham, and all part of a sting, which is nothing more than a hoax on the American people.

Elections, polls, and debates are nothing more than a barometer to measure the atmosphere. Presidents are appointed, not elected. Not that it would make any difference which one of those elitist gangsters sat in the sheister house anyway.

If there was any doubt previously, it should have sunk in by at least the 2000 election.

Excluding americans that are on ATS,the rest of your fellow americans dont have a clue their being manipulated,and even if you could all tell them whats going on then still they wont have a clue,they might even call you a nutter,this proves you have a controlled media that does not report a non bias news,remember the same people who run the whole show own the news comapanies,its that easy to see it ,this isnt a big deal because you should all know by now that this is always the case,every time there is a contest to get someone in power they will promise you the world to get in and will deliver nothing for the majority,then you have 4 years to moan and grown about how nothing is being done like it is today,then come election time same cycle repeats itself,aint getting those 4 yrs back are you guys.

This is this same process that happens in the uk,we get promised the world in every single thing thats wrong in the country and when their in they,they go off and keep us on the same path as the last guy,and ignore the anger we feel towards them.

We need a plan of action,no more talking,our lives are ticking away slowly,they want you to be a slave from cradle to grave and not say anything while they rip you off,they ignore us at every turn,they never make the right decision for the people who keep them in power,protect them,pay them,trust them steering the ship

Wake the hell up people your just PR victims

This isn't the first time polls are used to fabricate results, and to manipulate public opinion. The main purpose of MSM is to persuade viewers into believing their convoluted lies. This happened in 2003 (before 2004 elections) and in 2007 (before 2008). Polls showing the "winner" of debates are one of the main tools used to sway undecided voters, and to give the idea that picking a lesser known candidate (due to lack of coverage by the MSM), or third party candidates is futile, and the better opinion being the one that they hand pick for you.

Originally posted by conar
wow, how dare they give him 0%

at least give him some %

nobody will trust CNN now

I would send this obvious scam to all major news sites, if some runs with it and CNN have to apologise, Ron paul could get a major boost.

Backlash!

edit on 15-6-2011 by conar because: (no reason given)

You do realize the poll was conducted by a third party source don't you? (A GOP source at that) I fault CNN for not at least showing multiple polls from multiple sources but they DID NOT concoct or fabricate the poll results.

www.nationaljournal.com...

reply to post by MrWendal


I feel caught in that trap often. The last election was a perfect example. I HATED both choices from the Dem and Repub sides, but KNEW that none of the other candidates would even come close enough to make a dent. Sometimes it feels like I'm throwing my vote away if I vote for somebody who will definitely not win. It makes me not want to vote at all, which I won't do, but I get so angry at the process. When I talked to my friends about Ron Paul, they looked at me with the 'deer in the headlights' expression and asked who the heck he was. Doesn't anybody do any research anymore? I won't be voting for Romney.

reply to post by MaskedDebater


They must have searched day and night to find that poll.
Even their own poll shows Ron Paul as clear winner

I captured the poll on My screen and thought I would post it so that it can be seen by all:

[atsimg]http://files.abovetopsecret.com/images/member/9f21d5a923c3.jpg[/atsimg]

Yes, CNN is monkeying with things.

Wow...I guess I really am alone...
I always thought the media was trying to convey the public into thinking that the majority didn't feel the way I do...I guess I'm wrong...We really are doomed.

Originally posted by TheWalkingFox
reply to post by AshleyD

 

"Online polls" are, well, worthless. Do you know how simple it is to game them?

Exactly. It reminds me of a few months/years ago, when a bunch of 4Chan members manipulated Google's search engine to where if you typed in the words "I hate", the first suggested search (the ones that appear on the drop-down list when you type a few letters) would be "I hate black people", or something along those lines. Almost anything online is not that hard to manipulate if you're computer-savvy. Proxy servers, multiple free e-mail accounts, or large groups of people with their own agendas can all be used to sway pretty much any information.

You Ron Paul Fanatics are something else.

It is 100% feasible for Ron Paul Fantasy to get a huge percentage in an unscientific "online" poll, and get a very low percentage in a scientific poll.

The same things happened in 2008. Any time there was an online unscientific poll conducted, Ron Paul Fantasy dominated them.

Ron Paul Fantasy has a huge internet following (mainly from Democrats, because of his anti-war stance), and Democrat voters don't translate into real support, because they can't vote in most Republican primaries.

Stop freaking out, and look at this clearly. 2008 wasn't that long ago...do some research.

The same story repeats itself

Press Ignores Paul GOP-Debate Win

date: 2007

www.opednews.com...

reply to post by OptimusSubprime


You are exactly right CNN is under the soros umbrella and will promote the most liberal republican presidential candidate while doing everything it can to pretend that real conservative candidates are idiots or loons that the american people shouldnt bother with. The progressives aka communists and socialists are indeed scared to death of Palin, Bachmann, Paul, and company. I LOVE the fact that Ron Paul is wanting to go after the fed. Advice to all you conervatives...2012 will be an extremely ugly election and the left will throw out the race card to as often as possible to tap into the "white guilt" to get the lemmings to vote obama. JUst realize that is an act of desperation and remember that Romney is NOT a conservative no matter what.

Originally posted by NibiruWarrior
reply to post by AshleyD

 

I just emailed CNN to voice my concern at the treachery they are clearly displaying, and below is my email:

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It is a sham that Ron Paul received 0% of the votes, only 54 people had voted on that poll at the time and it is clearly a lie and not a reflection on what the REAL poll indicated, this is clearly a propaganda of lies and I will no longer be watching CNN. Lying bastards! Ron Paul WILL win the election and if he doesn't, prepare for the backlash of the people. I hope they blow up CNN headquarters first!

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Wow. Have fun when the Feds come knocking on your door. It's people like you that give the Ron Paul supporters their deranged image. Seriously, man, WTF?

The National Journal Poll was a survey of 54

Former Massachusetts Gov. Mitt Romney was the winner of the first major presidential debate tonight according to a survey of Republican and Democratic political operatives, campaign consultants, and party strategists, in a special National Journal Political Insiders Poll conducted tonight. Minnesota Rep. Michele Bachmann also had a good evening.

www.nationaljournal.com...

The CNN online poll allowed people to "vote" as many times as they liked by simply hitting the back button and voting over and over and over, which is exactly what Ron Paul supporters encouraged while linking to the Poll from the RP site, thus skewing the poll

Here is a Ron Paul supporter on the DailyPaul cautioning against doing exactly that. GOOD POINTS MADE HERE

I personally suggest against it

I definitely understand the motivation and intent behind such, but when these kind of poll results are due to Ron Paul supporters networking and flooding all polls that can be found, they're not an honest representation, and is the exact reason given for some of these polls being taken down (heavy traffic incoming from Ron Paul domains, to which someone emphasized the importance of breaking links).

This doesn't give a fair representation of the opinions of the normal visitors to such sites, and is one of the things that turns people off about Ron Paul supporters. I think everyone linking every poll they come across and then the rest of us flooding them likely does more harm than good. I could be wrong, but that's just the way I see it and is likely the precise reason for so many "fraudulent" and re-booted polls.

Going out and hollering about these kind of poll results handlings might cause those we're accusing such to reciprocate with data pointing to what I've mentioned here, and might backlash. As I said, I understand and can't fault what we're trying to accomplish, but I have to wonder about the effect and worthwhile-ness.

www.dailypaul.com...

So is the idea to press CNN to the point where they disclose how many of those votes originated from the RonPaul domain name?

IMO Niether the "Political Insider" Poll CNN cited or the online Poll skewed by RP supporters is a representation of the people, but at least CNN stated that it was a "Political Insider" poll. There was a modicum of honesty there. If they had cited the online poll along with a disclaimer that X number (likely 90%) of votes originated from the same domain name (RP), would that have helped RPs cause?

Just trying to interject some rational thought amongst the rush to scream "propaganda".

Originally posted by lazydaisy67
reply to post by MrWendal

 

I feel caught in that trap often. The last election was a perfect example. I HATED both choices from the Dem and Repub sides, but KNEW that none of the other candidates would even come close enough to make a dent. Sometimes it feels like I'm throwing my vote away if I vote for somebody who will definitely not win. It makes me not want to vote at all, which I won't do, but I get so angry at the process. When I talked to my friends about Ron Paul, they looked at me with the 'deer in the headlights' expression and asked who the heck he was. Doesn't anybody do any research anymore? I won't be voting for Romney.

It is "throwing [Your] vote away" to vote for anyOne You really don't want in office. If You think You should vote for the lesser of two evils rather than the candidate You want, You're not voting. You're bolstering a system and that is all.

What if 90% wanted Ron Paul but, because of the media lies, They think He can't win, and so vote for a republicrat instead? (Not saying Paul isn't a republican - but You know He won't be Their front runner...)

What a whole lot of wasted votes.

And given the voter fraud that They are maintaining (in many forms including proprietary "voting" software) they're ALL wasted votes. SomeOne else is deciding who runs this country.