WTF are the rules on cursing??

1. a profane or obscene expression of anger, disgust, surprise, etc.; oath 2. an appeal to a supernatural power for harm to come to a specific person, group, etc. 3. harm resulting from an appeal to a supernatural power to be under a curse 4. something that brings or causes great trouble or harm 5. a saying, charm, effigy, etc., used to invoke a curse 6. (Christianity / Ecclesiastical Terms) an ecclesiastical censure of excommunication 7. (Life Sciences & Allied Applications / Physiology) (preceded by the) Informal menstruation or a menstrual period vb curses, cursing, cursed archaic, curst 1. (intr) to utter obscenities or oaths 2. (tr) to abuse (someone) with obscenities or oaths 3. (tr) to invoke supernatural powers to bring harm to (someone or something) 4. (tr) to bring harm upon 5. (Christianity / Roman Catholic Church) (tr) another word for excommunicate [Old English cursian to curse, from curs a curse] curser n

reply to post by St Udio

www.thefreedictionary.com...

Apparently you are incorrect, sir.

reply to post by St Udio


talking of offensive posts you might benefit form this

Dyslexia and ATS

Originally posted by destination now

Originally posted by kevinunknown
reply to post by destination now

 

Sorry I have a big problem with the “if you don’t like the thread get out” mantra, if I think a thread is idiotic I should be allowed to explain why.

By all means explain why you think the content is idiotic...just don't call the posters of the contents idiots

Exactly.

Kick the ball all you want, but leave the ankles alone.

neveremind. I removed this comment to avoid being docked another 500 points.

reply to post by masqua


Yes but as I pointed out the way I talk to my parents my boss and so on often does include profanity I don’t want to go round in circles but like I said language is subjective a clear list of words that will be frowned upon could be useful for both mod’s and members.

It's all about the INTENT behind the language.

Just like the 'fracking' thing, iif it's a sexual reference, it's going to get edited, if it's about natural gas extraction, it won't.

reply to post by masqua


Once again, and yes I know we are going round in circles

The intent you read in to language is also subjective sometime’s I agree it can be quite clear when somebody is being offensive however other times the intent behind the language is misinterpreted

Let me give this a go...

OP, you are seemingly trying to turn this into a censorship issue which it is most certainly not.

For years members have been able to find ways to express themselves without the use of profanity and in doing so have raised the verbal frequency far above what many other forums have, simply by using their wit and verbal ingenuity to express themselves.

It really is a win win situation as it takes no genuine creativity to say a cus word rather than to stop and think of another word in which to expresses emotions. It helps the online poster to grow a vocabulary.

We do not need a list as we all know a cus word whether written plainly or implied.

I have tremendous admiration for members who can chew an issue or sometimes even another member out without even coming close to using profanity.

reply to post by kevinunknown


Common sense should dictate which words are inappropriate.
A reasonable man shouldn't need a list.

The rules are there so we can have polite discussions....and so that schools, companies and parents don't block ATS for being an offensive site.

reply to post by kevinunknown


If it is misinterpreted, there is the Complaint feature in which the staff action can be questioned.

Would you rather have a bot with a list 40,000 words long that removes any post with things like 'butthurt' or a dedicated staff which is assigned the job of determining the intent?

You DO know that I'm being light on the number of words which could be construed the wrong way. I'd bet on 40,000 words AT LEAST in the English language which varies from country to country.

reply to post by kevinunknown


ah the mod has explained its all about the context kevin. i for one have a very bad sailors mouth as my mother says lol, but its how you use the words, well not just the words u use but the meaning of the sentance in which you are saying it.

These swear words are really not harmful in their own right. They’re just strings of letters, phonic expressions. It’s the context and intent that really gives them power (or makes them funny, or helps them add emphasis to sentences). Without the right words or actions or delivery to accompany them, they are impotent.

given the right context and intent, ”acceptable” replacements for swear words can be just as offensive as the swear words they’re supposed to be covering for. So, if someone says “Flip!” right after hitting their thumb with a hammer, to me that’s equivalent to “F**k!”. The difference, after all, is just phonic. By the same token, “I’m going to rip your flippin’ head off” is just as objectionable as “I’m going to rip your f**kin’ head off,” because, really, in both cases the speaker’s intent is to remove a vital body part from your person, and that’s really not on.

Same goes for “I love this flipping place!”, which is approximately what Sarah Palin said on an ad to promote her reality TV series about Alaska. I can’t see why that’s any different from “I love this fu**ing place!”. The only difference in this case is phonic, because the intent is to add emphasis to a sentence and sentiment.

Again its about the context of the words you use, their meaning and how/who they are directed at.

reply to post by DontTreadOnMe


I am not talking about advocating the use of cursing on ATS I am only advocating the creation of a list of words that are not acceptable.

Also this is not me attempting to start a debate about censorship on ATS, for the most part I agree with it. I actively alert mod’s to breaches of the clause 15a) of the T&C’s I have no problem with removing offensive posts. I just would like to see some clarity.

reply to post by ronishia


The very fact that you’re having to censor your words illustrates the paradox with these posts. If the world Fu@k was acceptable in ordinary contest then you would not have to censor it nor would I. I know as soon is a take out that “@” and replace it with a “c” I am going to get my post removed therefore I have a problem with the contest argument.

reply to post by kevinunknown

Well, this could always be used by members to determine if there is an off-color, trendy definition that ATS wouldn't allow

www.urbandictionary.com...

reply to post by masqua


Well yes I agree with that, but recently on ATS there has been a influx of the use of terms such as WTF and BS, yes I am guilty of this but it does not seem to be enforced this has led me to question what constitutes cursing and what does not. A list would help, and I doubt it would be 40,000 words, I think you would be looking at about 50ish.

You could of course just ban any word found in the “urban dictionary”

reply to post by DontTreadOnMe


Dam you!!! (oh sorry is that cursing?)

You beat me to it!

Let me be clear.

There is NOT going to be a list of words deemed unacceptable which are not already covered in the censor.

There's just too many. This is why we have a staff, an alert button and a complaint feature. If such a list were to be created, it would be used in the auto censor (bot).

Not going to happen.

reply to post by masqua


What words are listed in the censor?

PS. Nice to know ATS keeps an open mind to the suggestions of its members.

reply to post by kevinunknown


#, #, #, #, #, #, #, and #, just for starters.

Originally posted by kevinunknown
reply to post by ronishia

 

The very fact that you’re having to censor your words illustrates the paradox with these posts. If the world Fu@k was acceptable in ordinary contest then you would not have to censor it nor would I. I know as soon is a take out that “@” and replace it with a “c” I am going to get my post removed therefore I have a problem with the contest argument.

i do get what your getting at, but in all honesty alot of people do not like curse words especially when reading what is meant to be a intelligent research article, i for one would be very put off with something full of *F* words and such like. imagine what the newspapers would look like without some sort of censorship

as for the bs argument i dont have a problem with things like wtf and bs in a comment so to speak i mean sometimes when u see a utube video you think omg what bs, or wtf was that
sometimes no other word can be used to describe it

rules are there for a reason, when i ran my forums/sites the curse sensor was very important imo, without it the place descends into chaos, the rule would be over abused. hense the sensor, i mean take a look at some of GLP threads as an example, please tell me those threads come across as an intelligent debate or not just juvenile ranting.

you want a curse list available? i dont really think that would be logical IMHO, its all about common sence and perspective and of course the mods distrection on the meaning of your posts. if you dont like the way they handled it u2u them, and explain why you dont agree, the mods arent monsters ...................*cough*