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High-Level American Officials Admit that the United States Uses False Flag Terror

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posted on Jun, 11 2011 @ 02:25 PM
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I've been fascinated with the concept of FALSE FLAGS for a while. Just came across this article:

High-Level American Officials Admit that the United States Uses False Flag Terror ... And Warn of Future Attacks.

The article gives a few examples of admitted operations, including how the CIA hired Iranians to pose as communists and set off bombs in Iran and the anthrax scares.

It also mentions the famous proposed false flag operation, Operation Northwoods that involved committing government sponsored terrorist attacks on American civilians in order to rally support for an invasion of Cuba.

The document is often used in 9/11 discussions to show precedence of the government's willingness to stage attacks as a pretext to war.

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FURTHER READING.

Here is an admission by Ted Gunderson, Former FBI chief, that comes forward to admit the United States' involvement, or at least alleged involvement/condoning of various operations. It's truly fascinating:



It's a really good read and mentions several names who believe more false flags are on the horizon:

www.washingtonsblog.com...



posted on Jun, 11 2011 @ 02:29 PM
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If this doesn't cause turmoil you guys should quit making this site and accept that people just don't care IMO

:O from me.

This is the moment or there will never happen anything to make trhis world a better place.



posted on Jun, 11 2011 @ 02:31 PM
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Here is one of the videos that was on the first link



And thanks AshleyD for the great thread so far!

S&F



(Oh and I want to ask anyone if its just me or does everyone have a weird feeling about the world lately? All these crisis' emerging one after the other, and the attempts by the media to cover them up, is really getting to me.)
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posted on Jun, 11 2011 @ 02:38 PM
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The more and more people come out and tell the truth, the more people will do the same.
Never stop the fight for truth!



posted on Jun, 11 2011 @ 02:42 PM
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Well presented. This is why I come to ATS..
Thanks!



posted on Jun, 11 2011 @ 02:42 PM
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Thanks for the replies so far.

I really urge everyone to watch the Ted Gunderson video. I really hate watching videos and prefer to just read but that is one video I really support watching.

And for those who might not have the time to read the whole link, this is the pertinent part:


* A former National Security Adviser told the Senate that a terrorist act might be carried out in the U.S. and falsely blamed on Iran to justify war against that nation.

* A retired 27-year CIA analyst who prepared and presented Presidential Daily Briefs and served as a high-level analyst for several presidents stated that if there was another major attack in the U.S., it would lead to martial law.

[*Snip to trim external content a little bit*]

* Daniel Ellsberg, the famous Pentagon Papers whistleblower, said "if there is another terror attack, "I believe the president will get what he wants", which will include a dictatorship

* Scott Ritter, the former UN Weapons Inspector (an American) - who stated before the Iraq war started that there were no weapons of mass destruction - is now saying that he would not rule out staged government terror by the U.S. government

* And a member of the British Parliament stated that "there is a very real danger" that the American government will stage a false flag terror attack in order to justify war against Iran and to gain complete control domestically


www.washingtonsblog.com...

Then each person has links to read more of their story.
edit on 6/11/2011 by AshleyD because: Trimming down the external quote. It was longer than it looked after pasting. lol



posted on Jun, 11 2011 @ 02:57 PM
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The audio from that video of Ted gunderson was also in Zeitgiest, I believe...



posted on Jun, 11 2011 @ 03:02 PM
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It is one thing to use a false flag in the country you want to attack, but it’s a whole other story when you're power trppin’ so hard that your eyes turn red and devil horns poke out of your skull while you step up a fake attack to kill some innocent citizens from your own country just so you can go to war with another country. Killing your citizens on purpose then blaming it on another nation just so you can have a reason to drop thousands of bombs on them is just plain insanity. Who are these people?



posted on Jun, 11 2011 @ 03:21 PM
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Outstanding thread. Everything, as stated, is my understanding of what has happened as well.

We aren't even smart enough to see it happening, even when media is showing us what is happenng:




posted on Jun, 11 2011 @ 03:26 PM
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This reminds me of the T-shirt that said "Kill 'em all and let God sort 'em out". Is this truly what we want as a nation? Makes me want to renounce my citizenship and move to Belize...



posted on Jun, 11 2011 @ 03:28 PM
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While I have no doubt that the US has used and will use methods of terror again via false-flag operations (something every major power has done at some point) regarding Operation Northwoods I would have to say something in defense of the Military planners.
What people fail to remember is that this came on the heels of the Cuban Missile Crisis, a catastrophe barely averted. We had no way of being sure that Cuba had indeed removed all the missiles or that they would not try do the same thing over again.
Add to that the perceived danger of other Latin American countries turning communist and I would hope one could at least see some logic to the Pentagon's position although shooting down an airliner sounds particularly heinous.
Frankly, I have been surprised that we have not had another domestic attack , particularly after the missing nukes incident of '07, which to my knowledge has yet to fulled accounted for.
Not every false flag involves massive destruction and body counts.
As warfare spreads into the information age new concerns about cyber warfare, biological and chemical agents may pay a possible role in any attacks to come.
For all we know the E-coli outbreak in Europe may be the beginnings of a military false flag operation.
Without reliable media I'm truly afraid the avenues for attack are wide open and only those in on the planning will ever know the reality even long after the event has occurred.
This is what happens when the Fifth Estate is suborned by the Fourth Reich.

If we don't have a free and independent media then all we have left is the government's word.
Not good, so very double-plus ungood!

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posted on Jun, 11 2011 @ 03:32 PM
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S&F

Very interesting topic to read about, especially when there are documents to verify these shadowy activities - Great thread!

I also remember the earlier thread from you about False Flag events.


You seem to have found a nice special niche to research, and I'm looking forward to read more about this.

Well done Ashley!

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posted on Jun, 11 2011 @ 03:39 PM
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But wouldn't you think there are more suitable ways to go about business and to protect our interests than to do what Northwoods proposed?

They wanted to bomb American buildings, hijack American airlines, and shoot Americans on the street. Then we'd be so pissed at Cuba for allegedly carrying out the attacks that we'd be begging our nation to invade.

JFK (allegedly) vetoed Operation Northwoods because he knew it was wrong.



posted on Jun, 11 2011 @ 04:15 PM
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As bad as it may seem, it is for the greater good. There are very bad people out there, sometimes you gotta prod the mule to get it to move.

We need to think about the world outside the usa and protect the rest of the world from insane people. I do not want anyone to die ever, but more then you can imagine die everyday in there home country. America is so safe most have no clue about life in a country where one day all is good then tommorow your family/friends/city are gone and your running with the things on your back to a safe democratic nation or refuge area.

You are gonna get dirty fighting bad people. It is the lesser of two evils, we only have ourselves to blame. If we all stopped and refuse to ever fight, none of this would exist.



posted on Jun, 11 2011 @ 04:35 PM
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From the link - I found this to be very interesting:


United Press International reported in June 2005:

U.S. intelligence officers are reporting that some of the insurgents in Iraq are using recent-model Beretta 92 pistols, but the pistols seem to have had their serial numbers erased. The numbers do not appear to have been physically removed; the pistols seem to have come off a production line without any serial numbers. Analysts suggest the lack of serial numbers indicates that the weapons were intended for intelligence operations or terrorist cells with substantial government backing. Analysts speculate that these guns are probably from either Mossad or the CIA. Analysts speculate that agent provocateurs may be using the untraceable weapons even as U.S. authorities use insurgent attacks against civilians as evidence of the illegitimacy of the resistance.

www.washingtonsblog.com...


This reminded me about an earlier thread here written by our member: airspoon




What was the "terrorist" group, Al Qaeda in Iraq, doing with US issued weapons? Could it be that the entire group was armed, trained and funded by the US or covert US operations for so called "US interests"? Was this a US or western manufactured group for the sole purpose of justifying the US war in Iraq with the dissatisfied western public? The group did seem awfully convenient for those in support of the war. Some people might say that those weapons were merely taken from the dead bodies of soldiers, killed in theatre but that explanation doesn't seem to ring true.

The weapons in that video alone, are far too brand new to have been taken off of bodies killed in action and what is the chance that they would have all necessary weapons for a squad or platoon sized element? Would we not also see some "terrorists" armed with Russian made weapons as well? This group seems to be armed with all US and western manufactured weapons

Many people have already realized how phony this "terrorist" group is, but now we have a huge piece of evidence to suggest that this group was at least armed by the US government or US interests.

My theory is that this alleged "terrorist" group was manufactured, funded, trained and armed for the sole purpose of making the Iraqi War relevant to the reasons given by Bush & Co. for being there in the first place. In other words, when the people of the Western world just started to realize that this entire war was for the sole purpose of corporate interests and that we were flat-out lied to, to get us into this war of aggression, up pops a terrorist group where the name alone gives credence to at least two if the reasons cited by the Bush Administration for going to war with Iraq in the first place. It's kind of funny (or would be if it wasn't so tragic) that when this group started to be propagated through the MSM airwaves, opposition to the war went down. What do you think?

--airspoon


(Bold by me)

Proof that "Al Qaeda in Iraq" were armed by the US? (VIDEO)



Hehe! airspoon certainly nailed that one!


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posted on Jun, 11 2011 @ 04:41 PM
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Its not just the united states. It isnt the kind of thing most societies want to put in their history books. The only difference is, unlike at the times of the third reich, news that the heinous crime might now have been carried out by the bolshevik spreads faster.


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posted on Jun, 11 2011 @ 04:43 PM
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For the greater of whose good? Protect the world from insane people? How can you get more insane than the people planning this crap? All of this show what a bunch of loones have managed to get in control of the US government. Maybe you think its ok to lie, steal, murder, torture, do terrible experiments on american people for instance the MK Ultra scandal. Or radiate childrens brains the list goes on and on. It might be to your good but it definitely isn't good for the average American people.



posted on Jun, 11 2011 @ 04:57 PM
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For the greater of whose good? Protect the world from insane people? How can you get more insane than the people planning this crap? All of this show what a bunch of loones have managed to get in control of the US government. Maybe you think its ok to lie, steal, murder, torture, do terrible experiments on american people for instance the MK Ultra scandal. Or radiate childrens brains the list goes on and on. It might be to your good but it definitely isn't good for the average American people.


No it is not good for the average american person, that is what I mean wehn I say think outside of the usa. There is a whole world out there. If a few of use have to suffer for the mass of the world to be better then so be it. You do not even stop to think about the rest of the world, the majority of the people on earth. If our gov is sooooo bad then imagine how bad the people they are trying to get rid of. The bad guys are a millino times worse and you do not want to be in a coutry they controll. Get out of your close minded idea that the usa is the world and what happens here is the only thing that matters. Ther are alot worse things out there, we started our stuff off of there results. They were doing horrible things to innocents way before any kind of us gov or even the usa existed. Again yeah it is for the greater good, the world thats the greater good. And yeah I would still feel the same if it was my family they used. Do you even know how many people are starving to death right now because of there bad guys in power? But you do not need to worry about that huh? You got a roof, power, food, and internet. So you can whine about the small slight things here and ignore the rest of the worlds plight. USA best place in the world at the best time. Love it or leave it. If we do not help the world who will? But you go ahead and jsut worry about what our gov does, and ignore the horrible people in other countries doing worse.



posted on Jun, 11 2011 @ 05:29 PM
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But you go ahead and jsut worry about what our gov does, and ignore the horrible people in other countries doing worse.



Your sentiment is correct but factually lacking. For example the American government funds Israel to the tune of 6 billion $ a year where false flag attacks are just a normal everyday occurence. As old as Cain and Abel. It wasnt just pop rockets those naughty palestinians had had smuggled into their own country by the evil Iranians etc etc.
For another example the British government (&shipping co.) supplied General Assad of Syria routinely for years with all he needed to continue repression for years. They even sent the specialists out there to train their murderous security forces. They still make shackes, and ball and chains in sheffield... do you know where they get shipped to?. On the foreign aid budget?
This thread says nothing new really the old fit up is nothing new at all. Did Clinton admit he was a liar too? OMG!

What we should call to accountis what they have had on the back of all these feeble handshakes. Like pigs on the trough are they, with their cost - plus Haliburton Holidays. Prince Andrew the global arms dealer is also friends with peadophiles is the news in our country. These peop;le stop at nothing they are pure evil. Don think you are safe in America either, or that China isnt part of the G8
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posted on Jun, 11 2011 @ 08:37 PM
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lol Why is it when I am talking about other countries, members point the finger back at the USA and deflect the thread by saying, 'What about America? What about your own back yard!?'

Then when I am in a thread about America, it's 'What about everyone else?' lol

You upset because I disagreed with you in your thread about Babylon? lol You seem to keep picking a bone with me every time you post to me.
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