What are the chances the U.S. economy could eventually trigger violence in our country?

reply to post by SpaDe_


I am with you spade I fully understand what you are saying and honestly people wont know what to do with themselves if EVERYTHING including there cars accounts phones internet were shut down the government can and would do that if in the event of civil unrest. but with the divided we fall like minded people will bond together and be stronger than the other. everybody would have something to contribute to the other and perfect harmony wouldn't come in the form of materialistic monetary means. stars for you

reply to post by kro32


i just feel that a lot of new pieces have been added to the board. is the internet new? no but its certainly growing in use and availability (especially from mobile phones). there is a growing sense of anger within communities about decisions made by our government and police forces. id say things are getting a lot worse in America and alternative news sites such as ATS make people aware of things that would otherwise be hidden from us. everyone having a camera attatched to their phone makes a huge difference. all im getting at is that there is a breaking point for people and the mob mentality is nearly impossible to quell once a mob reachers a certain strength and size

reply to post by wolveseyes


The thing is, in the end the people of this country will pull together and unite for the common good. The problem will be getting them to do it sooner rather than later. That is why I said they will come together, but it won't be at zero cost.

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id say chances are very, very good. and if things start to jump off, you can count me in among the many taking the matters into our own hands. i already have given up on corporations and doing it on my own, but the government tries to put every road block imaginable in your way to be productive on your own also.

reply to post by letscit


I hear that all the time and completely agree with you. Earlier I said there might be a lot of partisan violence but the conversation centering around rebellion against our corrupt government is even more likely. Instead of fighting our brothers we'll be fighting our captors and as an American I can see the necessity of rebellion in the face of a corrupt government.

Originally posted by letscit
id say chances are very, very good. and if things start to jump off, you can count me in among the many taking the matters into our own hands. i already have given up on corporations and doing it on my own, but the government tries to put every road block imaginable in your way to be productive on your own also.

More reason to think 7 miles ahead of.......... I got a 04 no onstar equipped (clunker).
we got a chevy cruze in our sites.

You cannot unite for the common good unless everybody agrees what the common good IS.

"The economy is bad" is NOT an example of a common good. "Money good, poverty bad" is NOT an example of a common good. It's one thing to say "count me in" to the Distressed Citizens Club. It's another thing entirely to actually have a solution, and a plan of action. That is what we lack right now, and that is the reason we are in no danger of an uprising, at least not an organized rebellion. It wouldn't accomplish anything at all.

Despite the temptation to believe it to be so, anarchy would NOT be better than what we have now.

reply to post by kro32


so nobody thinks there was violence in the tent cities during the great depression? are you all mad? proof, you want proof of violence then, go ask someone who lived through it. the people i know who are still alive now an then say there was violence. i gaurentee you there wasnt as much media or instant messages to update people on what was happening at the time. thus making things easier to disappear or sweep under a rug. this country was built on violence, hell this world was built violently.

My thoughts on this are as follows. If the economy throws in a monkey wrench and everything goes to hell. You can garantee it will be a blood bath of which the likes of the civil war will look like a picnic at the park. You take away this and all who is even linked to , or thought of being or having money/power will end up on the dinner table roasted alive. How do you like your P. I. G.(persons in greed) well done, roasted, barbaqued, boiled, chard, poked, fillet, slow cooked, or skinned alive. Plenty to choose from around the world. wee, wee snort snort , wee ,wee. I believe the chances of the economy to trigger violence in the world if the economy tanks are very good. I'd say that if the economy tanks and people's out of job,money, gas, food. Sure, you can bet on the odds of 95% will get ugly. Just remember the movie the night of the living dead. The people who have nothing will be the zombies comming after you in the middle of the night.

Originally posted by Magnus47
You cannot unite for the common good unless everybody agrees what the common good IS.

"The economy is bad" is NOT an example of a common good. "Money good, poverty bad" is NOT an example of a common good. It's one thing to say "count me in" to the Distressed Citizens Club. It's another thing entirely to actually have a solution, and a plan of action. That is what we lack right now, and that is the reason we are in no danger of an uprising, at least not an organized rebellion. It wouldn't accomplish anything at all.

Despite the temptation to believe it to be so, anarchy would NOT be better than what we have now.

Money is the root of all evil........open your eyes, money is what has gotten us into this mess, lack there of or too much can contribute. there is a solution disbanned the government officials they are no good driven by money. anarchy would be what 80 percent of the world would expect the citizens of the united states to do.......why we have no balls would be because our government like a dictatorship in disguise CONTROLS EVERYTHING.

reply to post by Magnus47


I doubt common good has anything to do with it. People pay more attention to a sad story on the news than a happy one, no matter how much they refuse to admit it. People could very well find a "common bad" and rebel against it. While there is no indication that we are close to an uprising, by this reasoning the ball is in their court. We wouldn't be able to unite against a common bad until it was revealed to us. Some argue that there are plenty examples of common bad that warrant revolution and through advancing technology we are more easily able to spread the bad news. I personally believe it will take something new, awful, and widespread to make the American people rebel but until that happens all I can say is the possibility of an uprising is always present if people are pushed far enough. A lot of people would have to be convinced of that for a mob to grow but cover-ups are much harder to pull off these days (not that they don't happen).

Looking over this thread briefly, the stridency with which some people are attempting to deny ythe possibilit strikes me as somehow more intense than the same conversation would have been on ATS two or three years ago. Since people cling mist tightly to a conviction precisely when it is the most threatened by reality, as a contrarian indicator, denial of the possibility of violence in this contex seems to suggest that violence is, in fact, more possible than ever.

Originally posted by silent thunder
Looking over this thread briefly, the stridency with which some people are attempting to deny ythe possibilit strikes me as somehow more intense than the same conversation would have been on ATS two or three years ago. Since people cling mist tightly to a conviction precisely when it is the most threatened by reality, as a contrarian indicator, denial of the possibility of violence in this contex seems to suggest that violence is, in fact, more possible than ever.

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wow you use big words LoL makes me feel slightly stupid. But after dictionary.com I would agree, I wouldn't know what ats was like 2 or 3 years ago But I thought this peticular topic was a loaded gun for people to comment on. I have no doubts as to the reality of the possiblity of such an event.

Cant wait for this.

Hopefully the people will then turn on the Government. This could be the best reality TV ever. Lets hopes its broadcasted worldwide. Lately there has been nothing good on TV.

The ratings alone will be record breaking.

Then the rebuilding can start, for the better I think.

Originally posted by kro32

Originally posted by SpaDe_
A wise man once said "We are just three missed meals away from riots in the streets". If you think that line is not true just wait until the people currently receiving food stamps go to the store just to find out there is no money in their account. Riots would break out in every major city center, and spread across this country like a wildfire of apocalyptic proportions!
We are on a fast track to debt default in this country, on top of the Fed coming out and saying they can't just end QE2 which means QE3 is in the works, as well as unemployment numbers climbing. This all spells one thing, and it ain't good news.

This never happened during the Great Depression so why would you think it would happen now?

Hmmm well, now we have how many different racial/ethnic gangs (Bloods,Crypts, Latin Kings, etc) and when nobody is buying their product cause they can't even buy food or gas it IS going to get ugly, also, in case you live under a rock, gangs don't solve their problems through peaceful demonstrations.

reply to post by Magnus47


People banding together for the common good will happen once people realize, they have a common enemy. It could be the Gov't, a gang or the town down the road. Plenty will die though in the meantime. At that point, people will band together, come up with a plan and for better or worse, act upon it.

It's always darkest before the dawn.

Originally posted by testtubebaby

Hopefully the people will then turn on the Government. This could be the best reality TV ever. Lets hopes its broadcasted worldwide. Lately there has been nothing good on TV.

I know you're being light-hearted about it but try not to think of this as some kind of "People vs. the government" scenario. 99% of government workers are just ordinary citizens like you or me, trying to get a paycheck. The idea of sitting back and watching some kind of mass hostility towards our own brothers and sisters strikes me as brutish.

I'm ready and willing to be violent, Ive spent an entire lifetime preparing for this moment in time.
this is what is needed to bring about positive change in the cycle of life for the american people and this country.

there are many misfortunes that will come to this great country in the event we do unleash our justice. our outside enemies will take advantage of this opportunity and we may all succumb to their authority if its not a quick solution

but its better to burn out than to fade away

Originally posted by Magnus47

Originally posted by testtubebaby

Hopefully the people will then turn on the Government. This could be the best reality TV ever. Lets hopes its broadcasted worldwide. Lately there has been nothing good on TV.

I know you're being light-hearted about it but try not to think of this as some kind of "People vs. the government" scenario. 99% of government workers are just ordinary citizens like you or me, trying to get a paycheck. The idea of sitting back and watching some kind of mass hostility towards our own brothers and sisters strikes me as brutish.

government worker aint my problem. Congressional bs'r is senate bs'r is fed bs'r is what doe you think there annual bs'r pay is honestly. not talking about the coffee girl or the mail boy. Im talking about all the little devils advocates running around capital hill


In common parlance, a devil's advocate is someone who, given a certain argument, takes a position he or she does not necessarily agree with, just for the sake of argument. In taking such position, the individual taking on the devil's advocate role seeks to engage others in an argumentative discussion process. wikipedia