What are the chances the U.S. economy could eventually trigger violence in our country?

Originally posted by kro32

Originally posted by SpaDe_

Originally posted by kro32
There's plenty of people today that pull together as community's...look at the recent tornado's or the hurricanes if you want to see outpouring of help.

I am sure you are correct that in the aftermath the people will finally pull together, but it won't come at 0 cost. The scenario is set to play out in the very near future, so I guess all we have to do is wait and see.

No you can actually research history and see what has happened in the past when there were similar circumstances. There is no record for massive outbreaks of violence during economic downturns. If you want to speculate against the historical record than that's your right but don't try to convince others of something you have no proof of.

Never in the history of the world has there ever been the circumstances that we have today, ever! There has never been an entitlement program put forward in the history of the world like the ones that are in place today. There has never been the technologies that we have today in the history of the world. In the past people worked manual labor jobs and went home to tend their gardens, and livestock if they had any. In the past people didn't rely on the internet, or television like most do today for entertainment. In the past you didn't get welfare or unemployment like you do today.

So how is anything today even close in comparison to any other time in history based on the circumstances?

reply to post by wolveseyes


that is the type of hard working people we need to lead our government.oh off topisc moment nbreport just stated 5 dollars a gallon gas for summer.......100 something a barrel gas lovely

the first law of being a us president.

create and maintain a division in the country to keep them fighting between themselves instead of the president.

thats why class warfare exists and pretty much every issue.

sure enough the great depression a civil war did not occur.

however when i saw katrina it gives creedance

a massive country wide "katrina" could have the potential for countrywide violence

as americans we have all seen the riots the plundering and the looting and the shooting that no one can deny.

anything is possbile but is it probably we will find out when we get there.

I don't think we'll be at risk of widespread violence or political upheaval until people actually have a comprehensive, unifying theory for WHY we're in this mess, and at least a vague idea of how to get out of it.

As it stands, the reasons for our predicament vary from one person to the next. Nobody can agree on the source of the problem. Personally I think it's just an unfortunate but necessary result of a globalizing economy, and the choices we have regarding investments, bailouts, etc. can soften the blow but not prevent the impact; in which case there's really nothing we could accomplish with political upheaval, anyway. But that's just my opinion, and a far cry from everyone else's.

Originally posted by SpaDe_

Originally posted by kro32

Originally posted by SpaDe_

Originally posted by kro32
There's plenty of people today that pull together as community's...look at the recent tornado's or the hurricanes if you want to see outpouring of help.

I am sure you are correct that in the aftermath the people will finally pull together, but it won't come at 0 cost. The scenario is set to play out in the very near future, so I guess all we have to do is wait and see.

No you can actually research history and see what has happened in the past when there were similar circumstances. There is no record for massive outbreaks of violence during economic downturns. If you want to speculate against the historical record than that's your right but don't try to convince others of something you have no proof of.

Never in the history of the world has there ever been the circumstances that we have today, ever! There has never been an entitlement program put forward in the history of the world like the ones that are in place today. There has never been the technologies that we have today in the history of the world. In the past people worked manual labor jobs and went home to tend their gardens, and livestock if they had any. In the past people didn't rely on the internet, or television like most do today for entertainment. In the past you didn't get welfare or unemployment like you do today.

So how is anything today even close in comparison to any other time in history based on the circumstances?

Explain to me how any one of these things is going to lead to more violence. What in the world does not working in your garden have to do with becoming violent?

Originally posted by Ultraman2011
Because you don't have the character or class of the folks from the 20's. You are a selfish, me-first, "my mommy told me I am special" country now. You watch American Idol and think Oprah is a God. For the love of God, The View is popular, you listen to what Rosie O"Donnell says, and put a mic in front of Sean Penn.

Modern day Roman Empire anyone?

Please don't lump me into this category....but I agree that there are a lot of Americans like that...unfortunately...

reply to post by kro32


Newspapers are a controlled media, whether through editorial slant or manipulation. You see only the stories they want you to see. Nowadays, the news is instant. Oh you still have your slant and manipulation, but if you don't agree with what you are reading, there is always one out their that will give you a warm and fuzzy.

I think most of us read many different media sites just so we can make up our own minds.

I hope anyway.

Originally posted by TDawgRex
reply to post by kro32

 

Newspapers are a controlled media, whether through editorial slant or manipulation. You see only the stories they want you to see. Nowadays, the news is instant. Oh you still have your slant and manipulation, but if you don't agree with what you are reading, there is always one out their that will give you a warm and fuzzy.

I think most of us read many different media sites just so we can make up our own minds.

I hope anyway.

That's all fine and dandy but still no one is explaining how access to the internet is going to incite violence. Do you think that just because someone reads on the internet to start a revolution that they are going to change their belief system and take up arms?

reply to post by TDawgRex


why can the federal reserve make laws to charge 20 cents per card transaction(sorry off topic in my own thread)

Originally posted by kro32

Originally posted by SpaDe_
A wise man once said "We are just three missed meals away from riots in the streets". If you think that line is not true just wait until the people currently receiving food stamps go to the store just to find out there is no money in their account. Riots would break out in every major city center, and spread across this country like a wildfire of apocalyptic proportions!
We are on a fast track to debt default in this country, on top of the Fed coming out and saying they can't just end QE2 which means QE3 is in the works, as well as unemployment numbers climbing. This all spells one thing, and it ain't good news.

This never happened during the Great Depression so why would you think it would happen now?

I think because peoples' morals have gone so far downhill. It's me, me, me ,me. No respect for other peoples belongings, and most people would not reach out a helping hand, either, to those in need.
Just my opinion.

WE THE PEOPLE OF CORPERATE AMERICA,
IN ORDER TO FORM A MORE PERFECT WALL STREET,
ESTABLISH TAX, INSURE DOMESTIC EQUITIES,
PROVIDE FOR THE COMMON STOCK,
PROMOTE THE GENERAL WEALTHY AND
SECURE THE BLESSINGS OF MONIES
TO OURSELVES AND OUR PROSPERITY
DO ORDAIN AND ESTABLISH THIS CONSTITUTION
FOR THE UNUNITED STATES OF CORPERATE AMERICA

reply to post by wolveseyes


this will make us fall divided by far......i wrote that in another thread.
took like 20 minutes

reply to post by kro32


to a certain extent, yes. social networking alone is far too large to monitor and control in the way newspapers and media have been for years. lets say cops are breaking into students dorms on a campus unlawfully to search for a missing person. a lot of the people who have their rights infringed upon will post about it on facebook. if enough people do this the students will rally around the police in protest and slowly grow in numbers as more posts are made and read. take a situation like this on a far larger scale. its all hypothetical of course but its a highly realistic scenario. we are far harder to control since the creation of the internet (think the goofy/awesome storyline of MGS2 )

The same type of selfish people manipulating the stock market and thinking only of themselves existed just as much back then as they do today.

The times may change but that doesn't mean human nature does.

Flag me if my topic was good this thing is like 3 pages long im proud of myself

Originally posted by kro32

Originally posted by TDawgRex
reply to post by kro32

 

Newspapers are a controlled media, whether through editorial slant or manipulation. You see only the stories they want you to see. Nowadays, the news is instant. Oh you still have your slant and manipulation, but if you don't agree with what you are reading, there is always one out their that will give you a warm and fuzzy.

I think most of us read many different media sites just so we can make up our own minds.

I hope anyway.

That's all fine and dandy but still no one is explaining how access to the internet is going to incite violence. Do you think that just because someone reads on the internet to start a revolution that they are going to change their belief system and take up arms?

Your totally missing the point, it isn't the internet, or iphones, or television that will incite violence. It will be the lack of these things when the people that usually have them can no longer afford them. I will insert another line from another wise man "when people lose everything, and they have nothing to lose, they lose it".

Originally posted by BrianC
reply to post by kro32

 

to a certain extent, yes. social networking alone is far too large to monitor and control in the way newspapers and media have been for years. lets say cops are breaking into students dorms on a campus unlawfully to search for a missing person. a lot of the people who have their rights infringed upon will post about it on facebook. if enough people do this the students will rally around the police in protest and slowly grow in numbers as more posts are made and read. take a situation like this on a far larger scale. its all hypothetical of course but its a highly realistic scenario. we are far harder to control since the creation of the internet (think the goofy/awesome storyline of MGS2

)

Your assuming human nature tends to violence which it does not. If your above situation happened more than likely a lawsuit would be brought against the police instead of a mass of people protesting. Once again look at the recent goings on in the world. The courts are filled with cases of people being abused or mistreated yet how many massive protests do you see happening?

reply to post by 0zzymand0s


That's what the folks in Egypt thought. You see how well that worked for a ruling party.

reply to post by wolveseyes


im not sure how many people would be interested in he speculative story associated with the thread but ive certainly been enjoying the discussion going on here. you got a star and flag from me and id love to see more joining in as well.

reply to post by kro32


I'm thinking that once something happens, if it does, Mob mentality may take over.