Bush Insider Says 911 Was An Inside Job

Originally posted by NewAgeMan
reply to post by GoodOlDave

 

The guy's obviously controlled opposition, who's goal is to co-opt the truth movement as the movement of the truth, people like him, Judy Woods, Fetzer. It still doesn't change the reality of what took place that day, which was recorded when it happened in real time - that's pysical evidence.

Please explain the how and why this guy is controlled opposition please?

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reply to post by SL55T0T0


I watched about half of the guy's interview.....while interesting, it seemed clear that while he may have been an 'insider' he didn't have any 'inside' knowledge about 9/11.....Meaning his opinions are not really worth any more than any other researcher who looks into 9/11.

It's interesting considering his past job, but all in all he isn't telling us anything new, or shocking, nor does the simple fact that he used to work as an 'insider' cause his opinions on 9/11 to be more valid than the next guy's....it would if he had heard some real Damning evidence while working there....but it doesn't sound like he did.

evidence today is ridiculed faster than !@#$
he got more balls then many of the reply's here.

Originally posted by Nutter
See what I mean?

Easy to discredit us all because of one man's follie.

Technically it was two men's folly. You're forgetting the OP who brought up Morgan Reynolds as if he was some champion of truth and justice, all without knowing what Reynolds was actually pushing because the OP stopped reading after he got to the part that said "Bush insider says 9/11 was an inside job".

So what makes a "Bush insider" a credible witness vs a crackpot in your view, exactly?

Originally posted by OverMan

Originally posted by NewAgeMan
reply to post by GoodOlDave

 

The guy's obviously controlled opposition, who's goal is to co-opt the truth movement as the movement of the truth, people like him, Judy Woods, Fetzer. It still doesn't change the reality of what took place that day, which was recorded when it happened in real time - that's pysical evidence.

Please explain the how and why this guy is controlled opposition please?

Thanks!
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He's a proponent of discredit disinfo like the idea that no planes impacted the twin towers, and his friend Wood's laser, mazor, spacebeam MO for the detruction of the twin towers. He's disinfo aka a controlled opposition who's object it is to make the 9/11 movement look foolish.

What's Carl;s Jr.? I don't get that part.

Its gonna be a matter of time before the smear campaign starts on this guy:

1 - Old mistress comes out
2 - young girl accuses him of rape
3 - child porn found on his computer
4 - Shady business dealings discovered
5 - ties to a mosque
6 - his nude photographs
7 - while he was dean at school how he was selective allowing certain students in.
8 - He has a grudge against the bush adminstration and wants to get famous

Chose 2 or more. This is what the media will focus on guarantee it. They will make up some story in regards to this

I believe that 9/11 was an inside job. I think it was planned by advisors to the Bush administration and that there is abundant evidence for it. I think that Larry Silverstein could easily be indicted on one or more criminal counts if there were a police investigation of his "pull it" remark.

If a homeowner, whose house had burned down and who had collected a big insurance settlement, were videotaped, months later, saying "I spoke to the fire department and we decided to torch it", in the America that existed before all the phoney patriots took over, people at the police department would be very interested in those remarks and would be looking into them, particularly if other people were quoted as saying "We were told to get back because the building was going to be torched."

This investigation has not taken place and no credible explanation for Mr. Silverstein's remarks has ever been made public.

That state of affairs tells you a whole lot about America. Unfortunately it also tells you that the 9/11 Truth Movement is a toothless tiger. The 9/11 truth movement can't get the simplest, most straightforward criminal investigation started against a very prominent suspected perp in this case, no matter what pops out of the guy's mouth.

"Serious" truthers want other truthers to stick to evidence that can be taken to court and forget about people like Judy Woods and their exotic theories. Serious truthers undercut their own position, seriously though, when they talk about getting presentable evidence together and taking it to Congress for another congressional investigation, a serious one this time. Seriously?!?!?! To Congress?!?!?!

Serious truthers want to go to the same people who gave you the Patriot Act, who failed to impeach Bush in spite of numerous failures to answer congressional subpoenas, who have failed to get Saudi Arabia designated a state sponsor of terror despite the fact that the alleged hijackers were mostly Saudi citizens, who have failed to investigate FBI sabotage of agent's investigations leading up to 9/11, who failed to protect Lt. Col. Anthony Shaffer in the wake of the "Able Danger" fiasco and who have with few exceptions, been completely ineffective as representatives of the American people. "Serious" truthers want to go to these people and get them to do a proper investigation to get to the bottom of 9/11, since their first investigation was a farce.

This issue is a dead duck.

9/11 is a symptom of a much more serious disease that Americans have, by and large, decided they can live with. Americans can tolerate the symptoms of their disease and have little inclination to employ remedies.

America is run by a senile oligarchy. It has clogged arteries in the cranium. America has a kind of alzheimer's disease of the administrative cortex.

It's administrators no longer know right from wrong, good from bad, order from anarchy.

A Roman writer, I think it was Tacitus, writing of the decline of Rome said words to the effect of, "We came at last to the point where we could no longer endure our diseases . . . nor their remedies.

What has America become? Nobody knows any more. The father you once knew is now lost in the fog of bewilderment. Fuddled and angry, lashing out at bogies overseas while it exhalts and showers villains at home with gold.

9/11 could have been a great lever for change in America, but nobody has used it. Time is passing. Larry Silverstein will be too old to stand trial soon.

Who is ultimately responsible for 9/11? The American people themselves. Some debunkers have said, 9/11 couldn't be an inside job because it would take thousands of people to pull it off. That's a lowball figure. In reality it has taken millions of complacent Americans to keep the truth of JFK's death a muddle and millions of complacent Americans to enable the crimes of the George W. Bush administration, including 9/11.

reply to post by THE_PROFESSIONAL


I didn't know he had done all that stuff. Isn't being a "no-planer" enough ?

But I don't think the media could care less.

reply to post by TETRA.X


Most people?

I have five people here in my store right now and none of them, thats 100 % of those here right now believe that 911 was anything other than a terrorist attack .

reply to post by SL55T0T0

Bush Insider Says 911 Was An Inside Job

Just a few items...

One, I personally do not buy the OS and from conversations over the years, sometimes with complete strangers, I don't think that the public believes it either. At least, not the great number of them.

Second, I think we do have to stop and weigh the outcome. Just as in the assassination of JFK, if 9.11 proves out to be anything even close to an inside job, our country is going to be immediately thrust into a constitutional crisis that will almost surely lead to the fall of our current government. From there, all hell will break loose as states begin talking secession in quick-time and new alliances and coalitions will be formed. The United States of America, as we know it today, will cease to exist. I think this reality is why so many of our elected people avoid this subject, no matter how obvious it has now become.

Last (but not least), once we get to the point where the union dissolves, there is really not a lot you can gain from dragging the dead horse around or banging a political partisan drum. Our best bet will be to decommission those red/blue political parties now in existence... ALL of them, and start from scratch. Maybe we can rebuild a country where fully half the population isn't somebody else's political enemy.

It will take years, decades or maybe even a century before we are again all one country. But make no mistake, that IS going to be the cost for truth on this particular subject.

Just so you all know that. Just so you are all prepared.

reply to post by ipsedixit


BRAVO! So true indeed!!!
Thanks for that!!

Originally posted by Chewingonmushrooms


Main Entry: whis·tle·blow·er
Pronunciation: 'hwi-s&l-"blO-&r
Function: noun
: an employee who brings wrongdoing by an employer or other employees to the attention of a government or law enforcement agency and who is commonly vested by statute with rights and remedies for retaliation —compare QUI TAM ACTION —

Dictionary says nothing about having to be a part of it.

Nor, you will note, did I. But you do have to know it was happening and be an insider. This guy just assumes it's an inside job because he's swallowed DRG and some noplane nonsense. In that sense he's no more a whistleblower than any poster on this forum.

reply to post by SL55T0T0


Ha ha, why would someone from the dept of labor be on the "inside" with secret knowledge? I'm sure he was in on the e mails and phone conversations too.

Do some of you realize how brainwashed you sound? I swear to god sometimes it seems like I am doing nothing but reading (insert prisonplanet clone here) and then regurgitating it. Read a book. Stop with the cliff notes. Loose Change is a cup of kool aid away from a cult if you watch it. Look at BOTH sides and not just what sounds cool. I think some of the conspiracy stuff is well done.

If you want a conspiracy, look into Mineta and Cheney and 93. This is, to me, why this disinfo campaign continues is so that more people will not look into the shooting down of 93. I do not trust my government but I also know that there was nothing to gain by 9/11. Nothing. If they wanted to invade a country or shoot off some Cruise missiles they do. You cannot deny this. So, why destroy the WTC? There are SO many other situations to use. No, instead it was simply an attack and if 93 was not taken care of in the way it was then you would have had a true disaster.

Originally posted by TrickoftheShade

Originally posted by Chewingonmushrooms


Main Entry: whis·tle·blow·er
Pronunciation: 'hwi-s&l-"blO-&r
Function: noun
: an employee who brings wrongdoing by an employer or other employees to the attention of a government or law enforcement agency and who is commonly vested by statute with rights and remedies for retaliation —compare QUI TAM ACTION —

Dictionary says nothing about having to be a part of it.

Nor, you will note, did I. But you do have to know it was happening and be an insider. This guy just assumes it's an inside job because he's swallowed DRG and some noplane nonsense. In that sense he's no more a whistleblower than any poster on this forum.

I was simply replying to you saying

He isn't a whistleblower. He wasn't in on it.

Rather than "he wasn't in the know" or "he doesn't have inside info or access". Sorry for my misinterpretation.

Personally I haven't seen the video (at work) so I can't verify whether he is or isn't, but judging by the comments here it seems that he isn't considered a whistleblower, and is rather someone with an opinion.

reply to post by Chewingonmushrooms


Fair enough. It's just another example of a thread title that oversells itself.

Odd that Truthers seem to do this so regularly...

reply to post by SL55T0T0


Not a single word out of this guys mouth in the < 10 minutes of his rant is based in fact. His "opinion" is that it was an inside job.

This video is not new, its old. The news that makes this post flag fertile is old.

Total crap.

Find me one person -- JUST ONE -- who worked on the demolition crew that wired the buildings to blow. Find me one of the DOZENS or even HUNDREDS of workers that would have been involved.

For that matter, show me ONE PERSON or ONE DOCUMENTED EVENT where a person working at the towers made a complaint about suspicious activity, you know, someone lurking in the elevator towers, or someone, somewhere they didnt belong.

Please. There is nothing mysterious about how the towers fell. There is nothing strange about tensile strength of steel at those temperatures. Nothing! Not going to get into it, as it has been argued to death by now.

Next topic please!

reply to post by THE_PROFESSIONAL


I'm going with No.8 please. Most common story, particulalry that last part about wanting to be famous even though its more like being afraid of not being thought of as special. Most good folks simply work for an administration and then go on their merry way when the time comes. Some realize that they can parley their association with an administration for a little more. Most of the time its just a nice job for themselves or their significant other. But every now and then you get one that wants to take it to a different place....

Originally posted by karen61057
reply to post by TETRA.X

 

Most people?

I have five people here in my store right now and none of them, thats 100 % of those here right now believe that 911 was anything other than a terrorist attack .

Okay, I gotta ask...what kind of store do you run where you can ask your customers who they think was behind the 9/11 attack?

Originally posted by THE_PROFESSIONAL
Its gonna be a matter of time before the smear campaign starts on this guy:

1 - Old mistress comes out
2 - young girl accuses him of rape
3 - child porn found on his computer
4 - Shady business dealings discovered
5 - ties to a mosque
6 - his nude photographs
7 - while he was dean at school how he was selective allowing certain students in.
8 - He has a grudge against the bush adminstration and wants to get famous

Chose 2 or more. This is what the media will focus on guarantee it. They will make up some story in regards to this

Or more likely they'll just ignore it as the rubbish that it is. I haven't seen any mention of this on msm, what are they waiting for?
How would ties to a mosque be made a part of a smear campaigne? It's a crime to be Islamic in America?