Why is the sun setting at a diffirent point on the horizon than at the exact same date last year?

Another thread stating that the sun is different www.abovetopsecret.com...

and also here www.abovetopsecret.com...


I too feel something is different. The sun is more "white", the atmosphere is just different.

One thing I have never seen yet is someone who digs up say a live stream cam from the west coast go back pick a date any date and cycle through and see if the sun dips into the ocean at the same spot. There has to be one on the internet, something that watches a harbour, a cam that shows a horizon. Then i feel we can put this all to rest...

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Have you, or anyone you know personally, taken note of where the sun sets at certain days of the year?

Originally posted by Phage
reply to post by the seeker_713g

 

but for each of us that does notice and does care that something isnoticeably and radically different there are a multitude to blow it off as being nonsense or delusion;

Not a classification? Not "us and them"? And it seems to be rather biased as to who are the good guys.

edit on 6/2/2011 by Phage because: (no reason given)

us being anyone that has noticed a change, them being those who have not had similar perceptions. No judgement there on the kinds of people that made them. Or distinguishing good vs bad. Merely an observation that some have made an observation that others have not, hence a distinction. Also the groups, whoever they may be, that think they're delusional.

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Yes. I have and so have many others. They have been for a very long time.

My western horizon consists of a mountain range so it's easy for me.. I know which peak the Sun sets on on each solstice and the equinoxes. I make a point of observing it because it's cool.

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Than we can agree that this apparent change in the sun's setting, for this user, is not due to a change in the earths axis... Unless it is possible for two people who are occupying two different realities to communicate via the internet.

reply to post by renegadeloser

Um. Yes, I think.
Something like that.

The trees in the first picture have no leaves. The sun would have set at your location, at the angle shown in the first picture sometime in fall or winter. Theory: both pictures were not taken at the same time of year. The camera's clock may not have been set correctly.

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Haven't heard anything from the elders here mate.. might have to ask some questions via proxy.. when I see the young guy next when he's not out and about in the bush.

The way I see it is this, if the sun really were to set in a different direction, rise as well, yet there were no casualites, I would be so happy.

But the sun is different than most think anyway, so just that its shining, not raining, and glorious, and beckoning all to sungaze at sunset is a marvelous thing, no UV then. Pour out your heart for the world, ask help to scrub up any dusty spots on us, and to help shine our own lights and inner sun, and don't surprised that you'll be called out and when a wonderful thought comes, the sun will cut through thick clouds just brighten your room.

If a crustal shift could be painless, that would be great.

If there are parts of the world with differences, but not others, wonder how huge earthquakes such as Japan, and all the midsize and smaller we had, so many recently, how they might affect this?

It occurs to me that the earthquake may have had something to do with this. The chile earthquake moved the earth, the Japan quake did so as well. Could it be that the relatively small movement, when adjusted over the Sun/Earth distance has altered the location of the sunset?

Originally posted by Phage
reply to post by renegadeloser

 

Um. Yes, I think.
Something like that.

I'm not saying that it is possible (cross reality, internet communication) mind you. I'm merely stating that it would be an exception to the first stated clause that your observation disproves a shift in the axis.

Originally posted by renegadeloser
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Have you, or anyone you know personally, taken note of where the sun sets at certain days of the year?

No...I bought into science as provided from the past cycle of 26,000 years! But that I understand is closing out here soon. LOL

This is a great thread. I taught middle school science for years and kept the sunrise sunset calendar going during that time. I would watch the sunset just about each night to relax here in AZ. Of course I bought into science, so I was not taking notes and calculating with a sextant and clock, rather I had a good cocktail in my hands.

I fell out of the habit for the last two years. This spring I began to tell my wife that something is off with the sun, it is not where it should be...what is going on, intuition from all those years of teaching and watching...

Like I said great post, something is off!

Regards and Nameste,

-Chung

Originally posted by ChungTsuU

Originally posted by renegadeloser
reply to post by Phage

 

Have you, or anyone you know personally, taken note of where the sun sets at certain days of the year?

No...I bought into science as provided from the past cycle of 26,000 years! But that I understand is closing out here soon. LOL

This is a great thread. I taught middle school science for years and kept the sunrise sunset calendar going during that time. I would watch the sunset just about each night to relax here in AZ. Of course I bought into science, so I was not taking notes and calculating with a sextant and clock, rather I had a good cocktail in my hands.

I fell out of the habit for the last two years. This spring I began to tell my wife that something is off with the sun, it is not where it should be...what is going on, intuition from all those years of teaching and watching...

Like I said great post, something is off!

Regards and Nameste,

-Chung

See we all bought into the results of other scientists, forgetting that science is a method. A method that any of us can apply to any area of anything. The findings of science, and science are two different things. When the findings of scientists come to replace dogma, therein a danger lies.

Too bad in school we're never taught science. We're taught how to memorize the findings of other scientists. Just like were taught to memorize the findings of priests in sunday school.

Good morning from Scotland and thanks for the responses. Some points...Important first. I can assure you both photographs were taken on the dates I stipulated. I dont care whether the trees say one was in autumn and one in summer. In Autumn winter here it gets dark at 4/4.30pm. Anyway, tonight at sunset I will go to the same spot and take the same photograph as the panorama.

Can I just add, There are way more people than me noticing diffirences worldwide going by the comments here and elsewhere.

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Not only do the trees suggest autumn or winter in that first picture, but the position of the sun in that picture is in agreement with the suggestion. Question: How do you know the exact date that picture was taken, and how do you know that information is correct?

Sorry no photographs to back it up but the sun here in the Lake District in the UK appears to be higher in the sky and is going down behind a different mountain. A mountain is a pretty substantial marker which does not move ergo it must be either the sun or the earth that has changed position.

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for about 25 years - i have observed a ritual of watching the equinox sunrise from a spot on a peak that has a special place in my heart - and the sun rises in exactly the same place - at exactly the right time in that time i have only missed about 10 - due to illness , being overseas etc

so what category am i in ?

We were at an outdoor school function last evening for our daughter and the sun...oh my, the sun was so bright that you couldn't look up to talk to other people without shielding your eyes! I don't ever remember it being like that in June! We are in Michigan. Also, for some reason the sun seems much more 'strong' and the rays feel stronger and more dangerous this year...and the light has a very very whitish yellow to it? Anyone else noticing this? I am very sensitive to light, so I know something is up.

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I know, I took it, I know when I took it. I have a wedding season from 1st may - 1st Sepember. I use that location the night before a wedding to make sure my equipment is working..I posted this thread for opinions on what I described. If you doubt my reputation for being honest thats cool by me.

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