The Extent of Jewish Control

Originally posted by Gorman91
reply to post by backinblack

 

Not rubbish. What do you think we give them all that for. Because they asked? No. Because we tell them what to do with it.

BS, they tell the US what to do..
Just look at the applause the Israeli PM received from the corrupt congress..
Do you think for one second that the taxpayers would have applauded him??

The Jewish identity (exactly who is a Jew anyway?) undoubtedly plays a strong role in political, economic, and social affairs. I'm not sure I subscribe to the idea that "they" control "everything", but there are many powerful and threatening Jewish players on the world stage today, and they may or may not be united in their malevolent aspirations. I think there is an inherent prejudice in the Jewish faith (as with any faith that claims this or that tribe to "the chosen ones"), and this manifests itself in Israel's behavior toward Palestine, Non-Israeli Jews unquestioning support of Israel, and other "Zionist" programs. Of course this is not to say that all members of the Jewish identity are prejudiced, or complicit in a global conspiracy, or to be suspected. They are innocent before proven guilty, like everyone else. In any case, this theory of a threat of global control is as worthy of investigation as any other, and I would hope I would feel the same way if I were Jewish.

With that being said, I have to ask why this very active thread, with at least some legitimate points, was moved to the ATS Skunkworks? Doesn't this theory seem slightly more plausible than....say.....lizard people and demons?

Originally posted by wingsfan
don't worry OP, I get and feel what you're trying to say. yes, it has become quite apparent how such a small group out of the worldy populous has garnered such power political and otherwise. but as another poster said , zionism is the core of the issue. israel is out of control, and to question any of it is met with swift downplay and a few "anti-semite" tags.

and is rupert a jew?!?!? holy cow my head nearly exploded on that one!! he is like the KING of the zionist. and there you will see the grand scheme of being a media super power. news out of israel is tightly controlled to fit thier agenda, not to mention him and fox played a major role in the iraq war and total war on terror BS. I remember there was a note from him and the top fox guys stating that they will get "bush his war".

this is a small, twisted, group of the jewish people that have twisted and parlayed the holocaust to fit thier needs. they've inbedded a powerful guilt-trip upon the masses to suit thier profit margins and israeli interest for years. just remember israel has commited very dangerous acts of counter-intelligence upon the US and other key allies for years. and what do we do? pretty much pay for thier entire military.

Agree. Love your avatar, Wingsfan. Perfect visual metaphor for denial.

Originally posted by musicdoctrumpet
Here we go again! More anti-semetic claptrap against my people. What did we do THIS time. Make an honest living in a world that is set up for the average income person to fail financially in. This is how it began in nazi Germany in the 1930's. Put the blame on a segment of the German population which just happen to be My People, the Jews and put all the blame for the faltering economy on us. Then you stage a crystal nacht, burn Jewish businesses, force my people to wear yellow mogan davids, segregate my people into ghettos then finally round us up, pack us into box cars and let the executions begin! Who said it can't happen here in America. Just keep on posting that GARBAGE that you just posted.

you good for references to "MY PEOPLE" there, says it all..........

Originally posted by blueorder

Originally posted by RealAmericanPatriot
...and by the way, my fellow ATSers, most of the major acts of terrorism that are prevented around the world and ESPECIALLY the U.S. are the result of intel from...wait for it...wait for it... ISRAELI INTELLIGENCE!

...AND I might add that the greatest medical advancements occurring outside of the U.S. are from ISRAEL!

...AND, from a purely pathetic aspect, the longer Israel is around, the longer the Muslims are too preoccupied to pay much attention to you...

catch a grip, one of the driving forces WHY muslims "pay attention" to us in the west is our bizarre propping up of the Israeli state

The US propping up Israel appears "bizarre" only to people who do not understand that the same banking cartel that had a vested interest in creating Israel & that still has a vested interest in maintaining Israel, is the very same banking cartel that owns the US Federal Reserve.

The Rothschild banking cartel has been involved with the Mid-East oil industry since the very beginning (1870's).

The US will prop up Israel until the banking cartel loses interest in propping up Israel.

Originally posted by blueorder
isn't there a lot of self admittance by various Jews that they do indeed, basically control Holywood/ the Media?

You have to be unconscious NOT to notice this. I have already posted on this, but I don't think the Jewish dominance of the entertainment industry and other media started out as a "conspiracy." But I think it ended up that way.

How could the Rothchilds banking cartel not notice, that the media was dominated by their Jewish brethren?

At what point did they (Rothchilds) purposely go in to control it? What a goldmine of power.

This thread should more aptly be named the extent of TPTB control in getting idiots to blame the Jews for all the world problems, closely followed by the US.


Rothschild - Red shield - Constantine, Templars - 'Keepers of the Vatican treaury' - give you a clue!?

Holocaust (burnt offering) them out of Europe - herd them into a tiny strip of indefensible land surrounded by implaccable enemies - arm them to the teeth with over 200 nuclear weapons.


Just use your common sense people - it is pretty plain what is happening here!

But I suggest if you really want to understand why TPTB have it in for the Jews you need to look up the History of Solomon and the Djinn.

Your insinuation that all or most people of a certain background are against you is asinine. Fomenting simplistic extremism on any front__is wrong. I agree that the right-wing has way too much influence, but I'm not going to speculate on one particular faith. I'd argue the world is out of whack because of competing strains of patriarchy. It's time to acknowledge the wisdom beyond the Big Three. It doesn't have to be Us v. Them.

This dance is what we create. Finding a middle ground for peace and a better world is where it's at...not scapegoating anyone. Yes, there are selfish jerks in any "group," but that goes without saying. The problem with your logic is that you then generalize as though it's a virus or something. "To err is human; to forgive divine." Where is the equality among the sexes? Why does one have to oppress the other? Wait, not all do? There is an ongoing struggle, you say? As with any extreme, look at the opposite, then look at what's trying to keep it together...that's most people, I'd argue.

And having traveled to the Middle East I'd argue that most people just want to live side-by-side in peace, not constant war. But when some folks on each side teach hatred (that applies throughout the world, mind you), the cycle of violence continues. Netanyahu doesn't represent "the Jews." He is a right-winger in power, as was Bush. And it was Bibi who stoked the rhetoric against Yitzhak Rabin, remember, who was willing to make peace. By naming right-wingers as representing all of Jewry, you yourself play into the fear and radicalism that gives power to demagogues. And by ignoring those who slander and hatred all people of a certain religion you add to the problem.

We're all related. Let's find common ground__NOT demonization.

1001 Quotes About Jews

It's interesting to note that when I first tried this (using another site on which this same info was posted), ATS blocked my attempt for linking to a "hate site".

I don't believe in some "conspiracy" however I do agree that particular Jewish/Israeli elements control various key aspects of the world.

They are shrewd people but I don't quite think they originally conspired to gain some kind of global dominance, I believe it was more of a reaction to the way they were treated by the Nazi's and you can see where they were coming from, they wanted to ensure they would never be the victims again.

Unfortunately this bred (or propelled) Zionism which as we can quite clearly see has got drunk on it's own power trip and is a real disease in the world (no different to the Muslim extremists, Christian fundamentalists, Political right/left wing nut jobs and so on).

To label an entire group one way is naive and little prejudicial.

However I don't discount that there is and has been a fair amount of indoctrination going on of the Israeli people resulting in their somewhat jaded view of anyone who is not an Israeli but again, to label every Jewish person under that banner is premature and vindictive (this is obvious from the fact that you have some brave Jewish/Israeli activists fighting for the rights of the innocent people in Palestine [and Israeli Arabs]...).

But lets be real, everyone knows who really controls the world, Israel. They do this by proxy, controlling key aspects like Banking, Media and Intelligence to a degree that no one can question them, if anyone does they are quickly made quiet thanks to the dirt the Israeli Intelligence arm (Mossad) has on them (as they play on peoples own vices and weaknesses).

They don't control everything, anyone with half a brain should know that, you can't put the entire blame of everything on one group. The Arabs for instance, sitting on that oil, they will do anything to ensure there is a demand so when you wonder why new forms of energy are not being looked into, don't be surprised if some Billionaire Arabs hand has something to do with it.

Same for China, Russia, they have all monopolised key technologies, industries and workforce leaving America, Europe (and to a degree Israel) in a strange crux and somewhat threatened (though not in a military sense where the US and Israel dominate this field..).

So what it really comes down to is this, Israel got there first, simple as that.

I am pretty sure, had the opportunity been there, it could have equally been another group of people or nation that would have taken advantage and put a foothold in banking, commerce, politics etc.

And I am separating Israel from Jews for a reason. Israeli people and Jewish people are two very distinct entities now, especially in the current climate so that difference should be pointed out hence why there are Jewish people speaking out and asking not to be labelled with the political arms of Israel (the real aggressors).

I hope I clarified the above a bit better and no I am not Jewish/Israeli or Arab but someone who is not too stupid to be believe everything they are told but I won't be censored, I will scream out "FREE PALESTINE" even if the likes of the BBC will edit out such a statement.

Adios.

Originally posted by Casaline
Who controls The US Media ？

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American Mass Media is controlled by Zionists!

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Thanks, Casaline, for posting these videos. I watched both. Every American should watch these.

reply to post by AngryOne



Yeah, yeah, yeah.

More jew bashing.

Are there bad jews? sure. Shumer et al make me wanna puke.

Just for the record, j

You do realize that there are just as many athiest's and secular gentile's running the show dont ya?

What pissed you off so bad that you needed to put up another "jews suck" thread?

I guess we'll have to be pc and put up a "muzzies suck" and "gentiles suck"


OH, and for the "palestinian problem"?

If their muzzie neighbors are "oh so concerned" for their welfare,

WHY DONT THEY LET THEM IN!!!

its easy. they make a better weapon vs. Israel than citizen of Jordan/Lebanon/ect.

Originally posted by nightbringr
As the most villified cultural group in the history of humanity...

I always wondered why people seemed to have a problem with Jews. In fact, I've never even knowingly known a Jew here in England. But then one day someone said to me:

"Why have the Jews been persecuted throughout history?! There must be a reason"

And to be quite honest, I didn't have an answer for him. I'm not saying I have an opinion one way or another, but it is hard to believe that a minority group is systematically driven out of many countries throughout history for no significant reason at all. It may not be right that they were driven out of various places, but it would be interesting to consider the host nations' reasoning.

Originally posted by Casaline
Jim Traficant talks about Jewish control of America

I just watched this interview of Traficant conducted by Greta Van Susteren. Excellent, but I think Traficant is naive to think we (the US) can wrest power from the Zionists. It's too late. We are doomed to die in their wars.

A video i feel is extremely relevant to this thread!
A view from Tony Benn! This man should be the current Prime minister of Great Britain! He speaks the truth through and through!

Another video i feel relevant to the WHOLE World!

Originally posted by old_god
They are shrewd people but I don't quite think they originally conspired to gain some kind of global dominance, I believe it was more of a reaction to the way they were treated by the Nazi's and you can see where they were coming from, they wanted to ensure they would never be the victims again.

.....But they were loathed long, LONG before the Nazis came into play. This begs the question: Why? Perhaps there's a damn good reason.

"If you go throughout your existence being absolutely hated by everyone you come into contact with for thousands of years, you must be doing something very, very wrong".

Originally posted by stevooo
reply to post by AngryOne

 

If they have a "strangle hold" on govt, why is Obama selling out Israel?

I think Obama is a puppet who is told what to do. He performed his little dance, so Netanyahu could do his number. Everyone knows Israel is not going back to it's 1967 borders.

Political theatre.

why is this old nonsense on the front page????? yaaaaaaaawwwnnn

Originally posted by AngryOne
BTW, for those of you who don't know, this thread started in General Conspiracies where it BELONGED. Just why was it moved just as my last thread was?

My Reason Why Your Thread Was Moved: Its Propaganda

Originally posted by Section31

Originally posted by Maxmars
This is an excellent topic for political theater. Any guesses why?

It is propaganda.

Before the internet arrived on the scene, the government and political parties were damaged from using propaganda. Once the third version of the internet arrived, the general public ended up getting into the act. Political loyalists use this form of media, so they can persuade the ignorant into believing in something false. As a result of causing public anger through videos and articles, people start to discriminate against specific cultures, religions, and other belief systems.

Michael Moore and Glenn Beck are two examples of spin doctors, and each uses propaganda to sway people towards their particular loyalties. When we enter a thread similar to "The Extent of Jewish Control", the first thing we have to understand is that the original poster is BIAS. Regardless about what he or she is going to type, we already know by the title there is an ulterior motive. As a result of making a generalized title, we know for a fact that the poster is BIASED against 'all Jewish people'.

If the original poster used the title "Hidden Master Minds of Media", we would have concluded that the focus is not on a specific religion, culture, or belief system. Our conversation would be about a group of individuals, regardless about their social background, who are trying to play puppet master through media manipulation. It would not matter if they were rich, poor, Jewish, Russian, etc...

"The Extent of Jewish Control" is a very thought out title, which is geared towards painting all Jewish people in a negative manner. Instead of focusing on something specific, the original poster 'wanted' to get people angry at an entire religious group.

Before the internet arrived on scene, we would have ignored such ignorant methods.

Maxmars is a moderator. You can ask him or her for a more in depth answer.

Originally posted by animalz
ok, I'll try to contribute to this thread, by adding something that 99,9% of you dont know..w..

...lets take a look at Russia.. I dont know how informed are you about russian oligarchs.. very famous, powerful, rich people.. lets take a look about which of them are jewish

fasten your seatbelts, here we go:

name - fortune in billions - company

1 Mikhail Khodorkovsky 15.2 Yukos
2 Roman Abramovich 12.5 Sibneft
3 Viktor Vekselberg 5.9 TNK-BP, Sual
4 Mikhail Prokhorov 5.4 Norilsk Nickel
5 Vladimir Potanin 5.4 Norilsk Nickel
6 Mikhail Fridman 5.2 Alfa Group
7 Vladimir Lisin 4.8 Novolipetsk Steel
8 Oleg Deripaska 4.5 Rusal, Ruspromavto
9 Alexei Mordashov 4.5 Severstal
10 Vagit Alekperov 3.9 Lukoil
11 German Khan 2.9 Alfa Group
12 Alexander Abramov 2.4 Evrazholding
13 Vladimir Bogdanov 2.2 Surgutneftegaz
14 Vladimir Yevtushenkov 2.1 Sistema
15 Iskander Makhmudov 2.1 Uralsky GMK
16 Pyotr Aven 2.1 Alfa Group
17 Nikolai Tsvetkov 2.0 Nikoil
18 Leonid Nevzlin 2.0 Yukos
19 Alexei Kuzmitchev 1.9 Alfa Group
20 Mikhail Brudno 1.8 Yukos
21 Vladimir Dubov 1.8 Yukos
22 Platon Lebedev 1.8 Yukos
23 Vasily Shakhnovsky 1.8 Yukos
24 Leonid Fedun 1.7 Lukoil
25 Alexander Lebedev 1.4 National Reserve Corp.
26 Viktor Rashnikov 1.3 Magnitogorsk Steel
27 David Davidovich 1.3 Sibneft
28 Rem Vyakhirev 1.3 Gazprom
29 Vyacheslav Sheremet 1.2 Gazprom
30 Andrei Melnichenko 1.2 MDM Bank
31 Sergei Popov 1.2 MDM Bank
32 Igor Zyuzin 1.1 Mechel Steel
33 Andrei Gorodilov 1.1 Sibneft
34 Valery Oif 1.1 Sibneft
35 Yelena Baturina 1.1 Inteko
36 Alisher Usmanov 1.0 Gazprominvestholding

its like.. all

and there are some even more like Boris Berezovsky, Arcadi Gaydamak or Viatcheslav Moshe Kantor; I know, list needs some editing since numbers could be old but I pasted it only so you can make an impression of what I'm talking about here. You should take a look at this article which shows some extraordinary difference in relation of Vladimir Putin (who is, by the way, not a Jew) with Jews in Russia:

Putin's Jewish Anomaly
I think that Jews learned couple of lessions from the past and they will make sure they dont make mistakes again. They are well tied into the World's Society and wont risk having some Hitler/Stalin take their precious capital from their banks.

P.S. if you are interested in which of the famous people through history and today are Jews, take a look at this Jewish website (on English ofc) - It's actually pretty interesting:
Jew or Not Jew

edit on 31-5-2011 by animalz because: (no reason given)

Very interesting, considering Russia is the birthplace of Zionism (the Tsars hated Jews). I think I read recently that Moscow has more Billionaires than NYC, but they didn't mentioned they were Jews.