Solar flaring warning issued!....

reply to post by markymint


I have 3g on my ipad and it has been slow the past week. So maybe it's not just coincidence.
second

Originally posted by Blinded
I am sorry, but Solar Flare does affect the Earth Geo field and that when is disrupt it affects the weather.

reply to post by Phage

 

Can you please show your work to prove this statement?

thanks.

Originally posted by phishyblankwaters
amazing, this thread is amazing.

"Post proof they don't affect the weather"

"Ok, here are several different forms of scientific proof"

"Well, your proof doesn't fit my baseless theory, so it's not proof"

"what? I just explained it"

"How much is Nasa paying you?"

"they aren't, here's more proof"

"Those sources might be lying, unless you did these scientific tests yourself, it's all lies"

=====

In all seriousness folks, if you guys are honestly here trying to ignore years of scientific research because it doesn't fit your theory, that has no foundation in facts or reality, then maybe you should wander over to the religion forum.

edit on 31-5-2011 by phishyblankwaters because: (no reason given)

never argue with an idiot because they will bring you down to their level then beat you with experience

Phage, you might want to consider heading that guys advice, you can't argue science with someone hell bent on ignoring it.

edit on 31-5-2011 by phishyblankwaters because: (no reason given)

with your above logic

the earth would still be flat, we would have never developed flight or nuclear tech, we sure as hell wouldnt have computers or inet either, i could go on but i wont

if people never challenged old ideas, we would never get new ones


edited to say, how many theories did einstein turn on its head that were previous given truths until he came along?

or how about Christopher Columbus in 1492

Ha, no I'm not really blaming the horrendous speeds I'm getting on the sun or solar activity, I was just saying it's a possibility, based on the OP's line about "the internet may be slow this week". That hit home. It HAS been slow for me recently, which it hasn't done for a good 4 or 5 months. I don't have a clue how solar flares may affect the internet, if at all. But I've recently been up in arms with t-mobile, my provider - I can't be arsed to contact them again, so I'd rather just blame the sun

It may just be a user allowance I've gone over, I have a feeling they changed my policy. But I was in a discussion with someone last night who saw financial ruin ahead and told me about a point in 1973 where they turned all the power stations off 2 or 3 times a week to save energy - and I told him we might encounter solar activity affecting daily life before that - so it was fun to come across this thread a few hours later and speculate

However. Tomorrow, if it hasn't improved (and the speeds are even worse today, downloads about 2kpbs, worse than dialup!) I will get onto the company and find out WTF is going on. In the meantime, I'll be looking around the net for evidence or information on solar activity and interweb problems.

And PS: It's mobile broadband, not a phone. And yes, I'm pretty sure I'm only one of five people in the UK who use t-mobile mobile broadband...

Originally posted by CLPrime
reply to post by GrinchNoMore

 

The same one I learned it from, I'm guessing: the textbook of Common Sense and General Knowledge.
Solar flares barely make a dent in the magnetosphere, let alone have any affect on the weather.

Common sense and general knowledge?

First- That is no kind of answer to the guy’s question.

Second - Common sense and general knowledge tell me that if something is coming from the sun it is going to be hot. Now if someone who actually studies the sun (especially Phage) says that this is not going to be hot even though it is coming from the sun, well I guess I will have to believe him.

Entertainment at best!

My, my how to say it correctly without offending all of these "sensitivities"...

Mankind wants to know and be confident about what it thinks it knows.

Mankind has been proven to "not know" far more often then it has claimed to "know".

When mankind knows not... it generally still pretends that it does know and if not, that there is thus Nothing to Know.

Hubris.
Folly.
Fear.

Edison was "unteachable".
Socrates was executed.
Einstein was a clerk.
Galileo was forced to recant and then sentenced to house arrest for the remainder of his life.

Little if anything that we now currently "think" that we "know" was totally acceptable in the time it was most recently "discovered/postulated".

As far as Reliable sources are concerned...

How well has your government handled your money?
How well has your government handled your rights?
Or should I say "how well have the corporations that control your government handled these things?"...

So, trust them where your understanding of the weather, your understanding of space etc etc et al?
Quote them like a zealot quotes their dogma?

Praise Science!
Praise the monolithic crane that decides who shall stay and who shall go!

Now, I believe that everything is touching, relevant and otherwise noteworthy.
I believe in the electric universe, a growing earth and a core that is at least partially made up of plasma thus an Earth that is directly influenced by "everything electric" including minor solar flares to large CME's.

In Galileo' age, one would have been hard pressed to find any "proof", any "peer reviews", or otherwise literature to support heliocentricity.

Funny when something becomes commonly accepted if not completely embraced... we always wish to think then of how blind we "were"... and not of how blind we most certainly still "are".

In conclusion: Embrace your ability to think for yourself by denying the ignorance that exudes like rabbies from the mouths of those who always proclaim to "know".

All is forever in flux yet sadly, if their finite minds cannot perceive it... then it must not exist.

Fearing fear... does that sound right? It seems to me that they fear fear...
They fear the fear of not knowing so they pretend to know or and again... they simply choose to believe that things are not in flux, that most things are unrelated and if these things were anything to worry about that their Corporate/government "proof-peer reviewed-sources" will alert them

Originally posted by president

Originally posted by CLPrime
reply to post by GrinchNoMore

 

The same one I learned it from, I'm guessing: the textbook of Common Sense and General Knowledge.
Solar flares barely make a dent in the magnetosphere, let alone have any affect on the weather.

Common sense and general knowledge?

First- That is no kind of answer to the guy’s question.

Second - Common sense and general knowledge tell me that if something is coming from the sun it is going to be hot. Now if someone who actually studies the sun (especially Phage) says that this is not going to be hot even though it is coming from the sun, well I guess I will have to believe him.

edit on 31-5-2011 by president because: grammar and speeling

no sir, you DONT HAVE to believe him

you can check it out for yourself and make sure hes not misleading you for his own agenda

to blindly follow anyones words, even the words of einstein would be ignorant (to be clear to BLINDLY without question follow einstein would be ignorant)

OBAMAAAAAAAAAAAAA!

reply to post by smartbuddy


This won't effect us in the UK as we don't get any sun as it is just rain, rain and oh yea rain.

Originally posted by Aisling
reply to post by markymint

 

I have 3g on my ipad and it has been slow the past week. So maybe it's not just coincidence.
second

Was about to say the same thing. I have 3G my Android Phone, On the Virgin Mobile (Sprint) Network, speeds have terribad for the last week or so.

Not sure if its related or not to any solar flares or not...but maybe it is.

i just wanna add something im no scientist or phd in anything, however in germany yesterday near hanover to be almost precise it was 38 degrees C now this time last year it was only just hitting 27 - 28 C and then for the month of july and parts of august it reached 40 C a few times, this year has been predicted to be hotter but only by a few degree's now to me 10 - 11 degrees hotter compared to last year for this period seems to be a bit more than a few. and tells me maybe just maybe something as hot as the sun spitting out flares could just be the cause of this fairly warm heatwave we were experiencing could it be that far fetched to believe that a solar flare or storm or whatever you call it has been affecting whether this year all around the globe

EXTENDED WARNING:

Geomagnetic K-index of 4 expected
Extension to Serial Number: 1742
Valid From: 2011 May 31 0747 UTC
Now Valid Until: 2011 Jun 01 1600 UTC
Warning Condition: Persistence
www.solar-storm-warning.com...

Ok I came here to see how life threatening this all is.

I was a bit concerned to see the WARNING involving a Solar flare.

From what I understand after sifting through the thread and the bickering, it seems like the Solar Flare is not really that big of a deal until it goes above M reading or X reading is that true?

So while this is a warning as I have went to these solar websites it doesnt really tell you how to protect yourself such as the UV levels unless I overlooked it ..

I'm wondering while this is under a warning does this mean take caution and wear sunscreen?
And how serious this is if it keeps up cause it looks as though it isn’t going to let up .. from what the graph is saying also are they predicting a continuing or increased solar flare activity??

Oh also I had to edit this while I could I left out my question

Ok wouldnt any of this solar falre activity be more active depending on where you live .. so say I live in the North American Continent would that mean I have a higher reading or lower ??

The sun will spit out M-Flares every single day. Nothing special here. At all.

@ OP: Why don't you take an hour or two and familiarize yourself with the different particles the sun is able to emmit, how they are measured, classified and organized. Doing so would save you a lot of work and - far mor important - a lot of ridicule.

Just a thought ..

Originally posted by OverMan
Entertainment at best!

My, my how to say it correctly without offending all of these "sensitivities"...

Mankind wants to know and be confident about what it thinks it knows.

Mankind has been proven to "not know" far more often then it has claimed to "know".

When mankind knows not... it generally still pretends that it does know and if not, that there is thus Nothing to Know.

Hubris.
Folly.
Fear.

Edison was "unteachable".
Socrates was executed.
Einstein was a clerk.
Galileo was forced to recant and then sentenced to house arrest for the remainder of his life.

Little if anything that we now currently "think" that we "know" was totally acceptable in the time it was most recently "discovered/postulated".

As far as Reliable sources are concerned...

How well has your government handled your money?
How well has your government handled your rights?
Or should I say "how well have the corporations that control your government handled these things?"...

So, trust them where your understanding of the weather, your understanding of space etc etc et al?
Quote them like a zealot quotes their dogma?

Praise Science!
Praise the monolithic crane that decides who shall stay and who shall go!

Now, I believe that everything is touching, relevant and otherwise noteworthy.
I believe in the electric universe, a growing earth and a core that is at least partially made up of plasma thus an Earth that is directly influenced by "everything electric" including minor solar flares to large CME's.

In Galileo' age, one would have been hard pressed to find any "proof", any "peer reviews", or otherwise literature to support heliocentricity.

Funny when something becomes commonly accepted if not completely embraced... we always wish to think then of how blind we "were"... and not of how blind we most certainly still "are".

In conclusion: Embrace your ability to think for yourself by denying the ignorance that exudes like rabbies from the mouths of those who always proclaim to "know".

All is forever in flux yet sadly, if their finite minds cannot perceive it... then it must not exist.

Fearing fear... does that sound right? It seems to me that they fear fear...
They fear the fear of not knowing so they pretend to know or and again... they simply choose to believe that things are not in flux, that most things are unrelated and if these things were anything to worry about that their Corporate/government "proof-peer reviewed-sources" will alert them

Thank you!

This statement can be posted to %90 of the threads here on ATS and still be relevent.

People in general, mock and fear what they can not or will not understand. It is human nature.

These are interesting times we are living in indeed. Our collective intuition as a species is elevating exponentially daily. We can either be openminded to possability that our narrow minded ways of the past are changing or we can remain with our head burried in the sands of what ever we have been handed down for centuries.

reply to post by smartbuddy

I'm getting a solar filter for my 8" dobsonian from UPS today. Can't wait to check this out

I love it when Scientist say "their is no way, it's impossible based on facts collected."

Then 10 years later, facts come out proving them wrong. Open minds go a long way, just don't be ridiculous about your theories though. If facts we have don't support any part of your theory, then its just useless to say anything.

Personally, I think there is more to this then meets the eye, but I don't know how or why it's just intuition.

reply to post by OverMan


That is one of the most sane things I have heard in this place in a long time, it would do well if most of mankind remembered this. Also remember that just because you read it or saw it on TV doesn't make it always true. Test it for yourself if you really want to be sure.

Many brilliant people find ways. Many stubborn people want to supress them entirely.

reply to post by redzareptile


Amen to that!

The complete arrogance of certain 'science' types is truly laughable.

Just because they have transplanted the worship of a Jewish zombie with the worship of peer reviewed articles does not make them any less zealous.

A truly unbiased researcher does not exist, and until we can accept that, all science will be skewed by the grant and fellowship systems.

No one will gain the truth if they cannot first admit that they know nothing.

Science and religion are two sides to the same iron fist.

Originally posted by Phage
reply to post by westcoast

 

No.
Solar flares do not affect weather.

I heard that there is a direct relationship between the weather on the sun and the
weather on the Earth.
---------------------------------------
Normal solar wind effects the Earth.
Huge solar flares effect the Earth. (direct impact)
Geothermal energy effects the warming of the Earth.
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Al Gore and his friends are trying to ignore the science and just make it a political argument.
- Human activity is responsible for 100 % of global warming and we have to tip
the worlds economy upside down to save the planet. -



I find that argument to be bizarre and corrupt. Meaning a select few can $$$ cash $$$ in.

Ooooh....Good time to check out the northern lights!
See you in a week or so.
Nah, on a serious note, good post. Cheers!