Karma Has Been Scientifically Proven

Originally posted by MAC269
reply to post by inanna1234

 

Dear inanna1234

Just to let you know we have had a total of 3 donations from Paypal for
www.hiv-aids-kids.org... orphaned children living with HIV/AIDS.

Yes in the world in which we live charities have to compete for your attention. They even have to advertise spending the money that has been donated.

At this center we do not do this at all we rely on volunteers to get the website to the top in Google if someone searches for something like help kids with HIV/AIDS. Believe me that was not easy.

So rest assured your Karma will have been improved just by starting this thread. If more of us lived by Pay it Forward this world would improve it’s Karma.

Is this charity even registered? How much money actually goes to the Children with HIV?

reply to post by inanna1234


Dear inanna1234

Yes this is a fully registered charity and I work here as a volunteer all day just about every day.

As another guy pointed out Paypal does take there cut but it is about 5% and that works out real cheap (for us because it cost them nothing but the donation) for anybody making a modest donation.

If you read through the website you will see that we have 4 sites and those 4 sites cost us around $65,000USD a month to run.

We have to pay the bills and do annual reports so we have to have some admin but this is less than 5% of our income. Some other charity’s the admin is 50% or more.

So in answer to your question even with Paypal and admin 90% or more goes to help these children live.

Indecently here we have the oldest living person, (one of the first kids father saved) in the whole of Asia that was born with HIV, she is fit and working here now taking care of the young children.

Thanks for taking the trouble to read this.

reply to post by Queenicess


Dear Queenicess

I have answered you question in the last reply to inanna1234

reply to post by EarthCitizen23

For Every Action, There is an Equal and Opposite Reaction.

That's Newton's Third Law of Motion, and it applies to moving bodies in mechanical systems, not to souls or atma or whatever you want to call them.

Originally posted by Astyanax
reply to post by EarthCitizen23

 

For Every Action, There is an Equal and Opposite Reaction.

That's Newton's Third Law of Motion, and it applies to moving bodies in mechanical systems, not to souls or atma or whatever you want to call them.

What? and You do not think a Soul is a Moving Body or Mechanical system. Hmmmm !
From planet Humorless perhaps? You speak like Souls can't move,,, they do Incarnate, Transmigrate and Reincarnate,,,, so I would call that movement......
And Karma,, isn't just for wispy ghostly souls and such,,,, it is hard knocks for people who ,,,, just never learn.

Physics such as Newton described can surely apply to Psychological, Mental and Spiritual realms also.
If you think not,, you are sadly mistaken and walled up in only the physical definitions you see.


It is called an Analogy I believe when comparisons as such are made,,,,,, Jez

I am Very very aware of Newton's Third Law of Motion,,,,

I don't believe in Karma, it's a form of control. I don't believe that the soul has control, I believe it is absolutely free and the laws of "Good and Evil" are made by humans. I feel sorry for people who do good things and bad things happen to them and they think that it's because of karma from a previous life, how sad. I hope that one day everyone realize the truth that our souls have no limit, it is absolute freedom and it is unconditional love and happiness, so much that you can CHOOSE to not be who you truly are and not choose unconditional love and happiness, but there are no "punishments" because the idea of punishments come from control and not from love. Peace to all of you.

reply to post by EarthCitizen23

You do not think a Soul is a Moving Body or Mechanical system.

Are you one of those people who believes a soul weighs 21 grammes? Souls, if they exist, are immaterial, meaning that they have no mass. Only bodies with mass can be part of a mechanical system.

Oh, wait a minute. Maybe the souls of Catholics acquire mass when the living say masses for them. Why didn’t I think of that! I wonder the what the conversion rate of grammes to Hail Marys is.

From planet Humorless perhaps?

No, from planet Just Not Stupid Enough.

You are sadly mistaken and walled up in only the physical definitions you see.

Quite possibly the second, though certainly not the first.

It is called an Analogy I believe when comparisons as such are made,,,,,, Jez

I’m not sure I approve of analogies. They sound so... anal.

I am Very very aware of Newton's Third Law of Motion,,,,

Glad to hear it. What’s your coefficient of restitution?? (As you can see, mine – speaking analogically, of course – is pretty high.)

reply to post by EarthCitizen23

But to get serious just for a bit: karma is not a law of equal or opposite reaction. It’s debatable whether the principle demands an equalization of all karmic potentials at the end of time, like some metaphysical Second Law of Thermodynamics. And I am absolutely certain that good actions are not supposed to have evil consequences.

Most particularly, I believe that karma, which embraces the concepts of offence and retribution, virtue and reward, in whatever fine words they are disguised, is morally infantile, no better than the stick/carrot nonsense of heaven and hell. Doing right is a categorical imperative without reference to its consequences for the doer.

reply to post by inanna1234


This has nothing to do with the fact that nothing bad happens to most bad people. Thus Karma is a lie.

Performing an act for the sake of making yourself feel happier or better about yourself, is a purely selfish act. Has nothing to do with compassion or love at all. Being compassionate and loving should be an expression of your inner joy. If your joy comes from the act itself, then you are still persuing happiness and fullfment from the external. Thus you are no closer to self-actualisation, in fact you would be blinding yourself and wasting your time and energy.

The only acts that bring about positive changes in your life, are the ones that are an expression of your own joy. If the act itself is your means of attaining joy, then you are not being compassionate or loving at all. Instead, it's just a temporary fix or dose of happiness that would fade in time, bringing you back to the emptiness and lack that exists within you.

The words love and compassion are greatly misunderstood. There is no love or compassion in any act that requires reciprocity. Save your energy and learn the techniques to release the joy, love and compassion within you. Then let your actions be an expression of joy instead of an expression of need and lack.

reply to post by Astyanax


I like to conserve my Momentum so my ideal state would be in this regards an Elastic Collision.
Very funny,,,, I like the way you think....

Analogy,,,, to anal...... almost laughed mine off

reply to post by Astyanax



I definitely agree that it is debatable if Karma is ever equalized out in the end so all Karmic "Debt" is paid. I would think it needed to make it the kind of 'law' that would fit into some 'TOE' Theory of everything. I am only sure of one thing,,,, Consciousness is the Component left out of the equations of most hard core physical scientist. Until this is remedied somehow,, I don't think we will progress far enough to where we will ever really be able to answer the questions we are asking here about Karma.

Your certainty about "Good actions'' made me think of what my granny would say,,
The road to hell is paved with good intentions(actions). I would think the cosmic weight of such situations would require that Karma be alot like Water ,,,, able to Freeze, be liquid and flowing, and gaseous depending on the circumstance.

Originally posted by Mactire
reply to post by inanna1234

 

I'm guessing this was one of their experiments. I hope he has good dental insurance....

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Anyway..... back on subject.

Karma is discussed in a very interesting way if you've ever read the book 'The Secret'. The author[s] discuss the manner in which like attracts like, meaning; if you do good things and focus on your goals, then these goals will be achieved, and if you focus on nothing but negativity and live with a "woe is me" attitude then you can expect nothing but a continuance of this kind of pattern. Our minds are constantly feeding our reality, and its up to us the kinds of lives that we lead. Everything from wealth, to heath, to the career we have, to the legacy we leave behind is entirely up to us.
This idea actually reinforces my belief of what Heaven & Hell actually are. They aren't literal places, they're states of mind, fed by karma, not rewards for the afterlife, but rewards for this life... as well as the next.

[Don't let the mob worry you. No one likes to have their beliefs challenged, especially if they've devoted their entire lives to them, hence the current state the world is in. Personally; I prefer the idea that we are instantly rewarded and/or punished for our deeds, and the proof of this system is all around us, rather than the old belief that we are rewarded/judged years down the line for lessons learned (or not).]

S&F

~Mactire

edit on 28-5-2011 by Mactire because: (no reason given)

Thanks! I didn't realise how many people would try to turn this into a negative thing, It makes me feel sad for them. I've also read the book the secret, it's really interesting.

Thanks for your kind words

Karma is something you do to help without expecting something in return. Karma doesn't have to be material help, it can even be a thought.

Tossing money at a crippled Begger does not mean you will get karma, its the thought you have when you give your money to him, even just talking to him to learn about his hardship is a good karma on your side.

Donating, helping, assisting with purpose of getting karma does not work either, it should come to you naturally and you should feel the need to help.

This is certainly not karma and if im honest its common sense. I dont know why it took scientists to tell me helping others helps happiness and lower depression.