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Originally posted by playswithmachines
reply to post by Adyta
We went into those countries to get control of the resources & for no other reason.
Freedom, my ass!
Originally posted by arollingstone
reply to post by meathed
What is it about these Muslim countries????????
By 'these Muslim countries', I assume you mean this Muslim country?
No, it goes to show how primitive and backward thinking is in that particular country.. Women can drive in most Muslim countries. Saudi is not representative of the majority of Muslim countries, I thought this had been established.
Originally posted by meathed
Yes Saudi's DO represent most Muslim countries.
Originally posted by ShadowZion
Originally posted by meathed
reply to post by burntheships
What is it about these Muslim countries????????
It just goes to show how primative and backward thinking that part of the world really is.
Yet western countries wont say a word in disgust about Saudi arabia as we want their oil. This world is sick
Judging by what you said, i am led to believe that you have a very limited understanding of the muslim culture,
the real reason for this is not just because they are a primitive, backward thinking civilization, its just that they take everything a bit too far, the reason for women not driving is not because they believe it to be a thing of the devil, its because just like arabic women are only allowed to wear the traditional dress in saudi arabia because they feel that it is disrespectful to the parents of the women if she were to wear westernized clothes, its just the same in saudi arabia, single women are not allowed into shopping malls, because of various reasons but not because they are primitive. penalties in saudi arabia are very different to other muslim countries
e.g if you steal a packet of chewing gum in Saudi Arabia, you get your finger chopped off if caught. its just so that people do not do bad things or wear revealing clothes etc. i assume that the reason for driving is because they believe that it should be the man who provides and labors for the family or so that she doesn't get pulled over by a bystander and raped or along the lines of... im not too sure, but i can tell you that for those of you who think this is custom for all muslim countries you are WRONG.
I live in Dubai, which is also a muslim country, I do not believe in the Saudi laws, however i can tell you that Dubai and other muslim countries do not share the same laws as Saudi Arabia.
And before you say i only meant saudi arabia read the first and second line of your quote.
and before you say only defending because your muslim..... Im Christian, i just happen to live there and have a better understanding than those who dont.... (not intending to be harmful to anyones feelings but just stating back, just as who ever reads this will have a better understanding of where they live than i will).
So research before you judge, or visit before you judge.
Originally posted by Rekrul
thats right those women don't need you. i think we should start giving those women guns to start offing those monsters.
Originally posted by sHuRuLuNi
Originally posted by meathed
Yes Saudi's DO represent most Muslim countries.
Ahm, nope. In fact, SA adheres to an extreme form of Wahabism, which accounts for as low as 1% (and I am being generous here) of adherents in all other countries. That is: All countries with a muslim majority are to 90% sunni (classical sunni mainstream islam), maybe 7-8% shia, then 1%-3% shared between several sects like wahabi, alevi, etc.
Originally posted by meathed
Originally posted by sHuRuLuNi
Originally posted by meathed
Yes Saudi's DO represent most Muslim countries.
Ahm, nope. In fact, SA adheres to an extreme form of Wahabism, which accounts for as low as 1% (and I am being generous here) of adherents in all other countries. That is: All countries with a muslim majority are to 90% sunni (classical sunni mainstream islam), maybe 7-8% shia, then 1%-3% shared between several sects like wahabi, alevi, etc.
SO what?????, Islam is Islam.
Its still a barabaric religion, and dont blame me for thinking so, the muslim extremest are to blame for that
DUBAI, United Arab Emirates — A Saudi woman detained for defying the ultraconservative kingdom's ban on female drivers was released Monday after growing international pressure for her freedom, a rights activist said.
The 32-year-old woman, Manal al-Sherif, became the center of a growing Internet campaign that also served to draw attention to plans for a June 17 rally calling for a mass driving protest to challenge the restriction.
The Saudi activist, Waleed Aboul Khair, credited al-Sherif's release on "pressure from inside and outside" Saudi Arabia, which follows an austere brand of Islam known as Wahhabism that is enforced by morality police. www.huffingtonpost.com...
Originally posted by burntheships
A new development in the story...in which Sherif has been released from jail after signing an agreement
that she would drive no more, and cease speaking to reporters!
I shudder to think what her treatment was while she was in jail that would cause her to make such
swift change!
NO, i have a great understanding of the muslim cuture, hence my statement, they are primative and backwards thinking.
Not all laws , just most , hey???? especially the laws that oppress women and their equal rights.
No you read correctly , I meant most muslim countries, so dont go to correct me thanks.
I have reaseached and been to several muslim countries (including Dubai) on holiday and business, so i stand by my thoughts and words, so you do some research before you comment.
So to me islam will always be a barbaric and primative religion.
Originally posted by Outrageo
And perhaps all men who do such inhumane things to women be subject to 'retribution' as handed down in other muslim countries - like this guy:
A man will be punished by dripping acid into his eyes in Tehran
...and these folks are the "peace-loving" religious zealots who strive to dominate the world??? I don't think so.
It will come to MAD (countries turned into glass parking lots) before that (muslim domination) happens.
Instead, how about we all just get along? Is mutual respect such a hard thing to adopt. No wonder ET wants nothing to do with us. They'll just hang out and wait for us to destroy ourselves and our planet. Could be sooner than you think.
Hey, Earth-morons!: GROW UP! EVOLVE! MATURE INTO SOMETHING WORTHY OF THE REST OF THE GALACTIC COMMUNITY!!
Man, I wish I could leave this planet of apes for someplace where everyone strives for the betterment of each other (and their planet). Whipping women for driving? Acid in the eyes? World Wars? Rape - Murder - Genocide? I'm ashamed to be human sometimes...
Heaven on Earth? This ain't it.
edit on 5/29/2011 by Outrageo because: adding tears...
Originally posted by meathed
Originally posted by ShadowZion
Originally posted by meathed
reply to post by burntheships
What is it about these Muslim countries????????
It just goes to show how primative and backward thinking that part of the world really is.
Yet western countries wont say a word in disgust about Saudi arabia as we want their oil. This world is sick
Judging by what you said, i am led to believe that you have a very limited understanding of the muslim culture,
NO, i have a great understanding of the muslim cuture, hence my statement, they are primative and backwards thinking.
the real reason for this is not just because they are a primitive, backward thinking civilization, its just that they take everything a bit too far, the reason for women not driving is not because they believe it to be a thing of the devil, its because just like arabic women are only allowed to wear the traditional dress in saudi arabia because they feel that it is disrespectful to the parents of the women if she were to wear westernized clothes, its just the same in saudi arabia, single women are not allowed into shopping malls, because of various reasons but not because they are primitive. penalties in saudi arabia are very different to other muslim countries
You just re-enforced my Backwards thinking and primative statement.
e.g if you steal a packet of chewing gum in Saudi Arabia, you get your finger chopped off if caught. its just so that people do not do bad things or wear revealing clothes etc. i assume that the reason for driving is because they believe that it should be the man who provides and labors for the family or so that she doesn't get pulled over by a bystander and raped or along the lines of... im not too sure, but i can tell you that for those of you who think this is custom for all muslim countries you are WRONG.
Backwards primative thinking AGAIN.
I live in Dubai, which is also a muslim country, I do not believe in the Saudi laws, however i can tell you that Dubai and other muslim countries do not share the same laws as Saudi Arabia.
Not all laws , just most , hey???? especially the laws that oppress women and their equal rights.
And before you say i only meant saudi arabia read the first and second line of your quote.
No you read correctly , I meant most muslim countries, so dont go to correct me thanks.
and before you say only defending because your muslim..... Im Christian, i just happen to live there and have a better understanding than those who dont.... (not intending to be harmful to anyones feelings but just stating back, just as who ever reads this will have a better understanding of where they live than i will).
I dont care to what barbaric religion you label yourself as, it still wont change what i think and what i see and say about all religions.
So research before you judge, or visit before you judge.
I have reaseached and been to several muslim countries (including Dubai) on holiday and business, so i stand by my thoughts and words, so you do some research before you comment.
So to me islam will always be a barbaric and primative religion.
I think you dont like muslim countries because either you got beat up outside a club by a bunch arab teenagers or you staggerd to far in to al qouz and left with a sore bottom.