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Originally posted by AdamsMurmur
I admire people standing up for each other, but you can't change things like this... "Eye for an eye makes the whole world blind."
Originally posted by MJZoo
Ok, this is F'ed up on both sides. The cops were a bit excessive. But to be honest, he was resisting. You couldnt see exactly what was going on but it was fairly obvious he was struggling. On the other hand, he was just some fan being a doofus, not really a threat at all. On the other hand, they beat the hell out of those cops. Not really a valid response to being upset about "unnecessary violence"
Lose, lose.
Originally posted by pacofunk64
IMO the guy running should have gotten his ass beatin to a pulp for doing such a stupid thing. People say he is just some doofus fan running around...well how do they know that? With all the acts of terrorism going on it's only a matter of time before someone blows themselves up on a field.This by no means was exessive police brutality. He's resisting arrest so at that time they can do all means to arrest the guy. It's not like they were taking full swings at the guy. The guy should be held responsible for assualt on everything that happened as well to the police officers.
Originally posted by gabby2011
Originally posted by sheepslayer247
I never understood why they chase people who run out into sporting events.
Why not let them run around for a few? Eventually the crowd will get tired of it, he would leave on his own and the game will continue. No harm done and no "event" like this.
People are too uptight!
No Kidding..not like a huge crime is taking place.
Originally posted by Simon_Boudreaux
reply to post by neonitus
Being taken down and handcuffed is entirely different than slammed down, cuffed, then beat. And in my opinion either case is uncalled for just because some guy ran onto the field carrying a sign. The cops/security guys could have simply waited for the guy to try and get off the field then arrested him without all of this in the video. It was another case of thugs with authority thinking they could do as they please without consequence. Only it backfired on them this time.
Originally posted by Simon_Boudreaux
Originally posted by mblahnikluver
reply to post by Vitchilo
Two wrongs do not make a right
True...but it sure as hell makes us feel better.
Originally posted by MJZoo
Originally posted by GogoVicMorrow
reply to post by MJZoo
I'm not trying to imply an opinion, but what is a valid direct response to ONGOING and CURRENT (words that are important here) unnecessary violence?
that's a good question that I don't have a simple answer to. like I originally stated, the guy wasnt a threat and I'm not sticking up for the cops. but fighting fire with fire doesn't work. the only thing that will happen from situations like this is that cops will be given MORE freedom for use of force to "protect" themselves. you really want to stop violence? stop breaking laws..... no one breaking laws = no jobs for cops. violence breeds violence. no one wins.
Military–industrial complex (MIC), or Military–industrial-congressional complex[1] (MICC) is a concept commonly used to refer to policy and monetary relationships between legislators, national armed forces, and the industrial sector that supports them. These relationships include political contributions, political approval for defense spending, lobbying to support bureaucracies, and beneficial legislation and oversight of the industry. It is a type of iron triangle.
The term is most often played in reference to the military of the United States, where it gained popularity after its use in the farewell address of President Dwight D. Eisenhower, though the term is applicable to any country with a similarly developed infrastructure.
The term is sometimes used more broadly to include the entire network of contracts and flows of money and resources among individuals as well as institutions of the defense contractors, The Pentagon, and the Congress and executive branch. This sector is intrinsically prone to principal-agent problem, moral hazard, and rent seeking. Cases of political corruption have also surfaced with regularity.
A similar thesis was originally expressed by Daniel Guérin, in his 1936 book Fascism and Big Business, about the fascist government support to heavy industry. It can be defined as, "an informal and changing coalition of groups with vested psychological, moral, and material interests in the continuous development and maintenance of high levels of weaponry, in preservation of colonial markets and in military-strategic conceptions of internal affairs."
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Originally posted by SyphonX
reply to post by derst1988
Yes, for the record, I feel the guys "getting their kicks in" was too far. It was enough for the crowd to run in and put the fear in them, and have them realize something like this is not to be tolerated. However, I've seen plenty of videos with rather insane violence where the cops "get their kicks in", be it fists, boot, batons or other. Like the infamous Brit veteran getting his face grated against tarmac, and his head slammed into said tar. You need to be a sick, demented thug to do something like that. Even some of the more "off the wall" bar-brawlers refrain from doing this. It is deadly, and amazingly barbaric.
This was, in my opinion, a measured response from people who have seen police brutality, and in the back of their minds, like instinct, know something needs to be done, lest it get out of control. Such as it does in places like.. oh I don't know, America?