Are Conspiracy Theorists Becoming A Laughing Stock?

reply to post by Xcellante


Becoming? They always have been. Most conspiracy theories have no evidence and are the product of one or two people simply to sell books, and the uneducated eat them up.

The disinformation engine makes certain the market is filled with conspiracies, very few stand up to scrutiny but that doesn't matter because a lot of people believe anything they hear or read. So at the end of the day most thinking people, think people who follow conspiracies are retarded and ignore even the ones with some evidence.

reply to post by Xcellante


Also WWE only attracts the lower ring of society that like to watch grown men in underwear playing in a soap opera.

Becoming a laughing stock? No, not at all, you've been a laughing stock for decades.

becoming???
lol

The funny thing is that it is a conspiracy theory in a sense, as it's all staged and already decided who is going to win beforehand. He's just part of the conspiracy, pretending to be a theorist.

Conspiracy theorists will always be a laughing stock... but it's like religious people - they're a laughing stock to me. How can they believe in something that has NEVER BEEN PROVEN, yet most conspiracies at least have SOME factual guidance.

If Conspiracy theorists actually ever proved anything and then it happened it would lend them some credibility but usually they just take events that have all ready happened and twist it into something they believe in with never any proof to verify their claims.

Look at any of the recent threads now. Not a smoking gun anywhere and if you take things like 9/11 they will have lists a mile long but you'd think if there was a conspiracy there they'd have found something irrefutable. Same with the moon landing or the NWO or whatever you like.

Their theory's are conjecture based on hypotheticals derived from fear.

There are two ways to look at conspiracies and consipiracy theorists:

In line with the saying: "Just because I'm paranoid.... doesn't mean they they are not out to get me". The nature of humans and secrecy gives fertile ground for conspiracy theories. In other words: conspiracy theories exist for a reason.
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Because the government will deny anything and everything- be it true or not, that also provides fodder for conspiracy theories like no other area. As an extreme example, someone can start a conspiracy theory that the government has a way to shrink people, animals, cars and buildings to 1/90th of their original size- and they will use this technology to cryogenically freeze them and send them off in ships to colonize a distant planet. Guess what the likely outcome will be? Denial, denial and more denial by the government. Why? Probably because, and I'm stretching on this, that this conspiracy is Not True.

reply to post by Xcellante


I think, for the most part at least, a large portion of conspiracy theorists ARE laughing stocks. Its the sad truth of things in which for every well reasoned, rational person out there pointing out verifiable inconsistencies in the government, there are ten yahoo's screaming that the president is an alien lizard man in cahoots with bigfoot trying to cover up the assassination of John Lennon. These people make better press, they also tend to shout the loudest. As such, the fine investigative minds of such august establishments as the majority of ATS and the like, are lumped in with aforementioned yahoos.

Unfortunate, I agree. But sadly true.

Originally posted by kro32
If Conspiracy theorists actually ever proved anything and then it happened it would lend them some credibility but usually they just take events that have all ready happened and twist it into something they believe in with never any proof to verify their claims.

Look at any of the recent threads now. Not a smoking gun anywhere and if you take things like 9/11 they will have lists a mile long but you'd think if there was a conspiracy there they'd have found something irrefutable. Same with the moon landing or the NWO or whatever you like.

Their theory's are conjecture based on hypotheticals derived from fear.

Was Operation Northwoods a theory?
Where there WMD in iraq?
What knocked down building 7?
Did Bill Clintin infect south americans with syphilis and gonnerhea?

I can understand where the OP is coming from. We see it on news shows all the time where "Conspiracy Theorist" are mentioned and painted as nut cases. Taking a clip from WWE wrestling to make your point is just really REALLY lame.

The real fact is, storylines in pro wrestling imitate life. They always have. Go back to the 80's and you can see that one of the biggest heels (bad guy) of that time frame was "The Iron Sheik". He was portrayed as an Iranian wrestler and he feuded with the likes of "Hulk" Hogan and Sgt. Slaughter, both of whom were portrayed as American Heros and wrapped up in the Red, White and Blue. These feud's were huge draws which brought in customers, brought in money, brought in ratings. At the end of the day, that is all that matters in Pro Wrestling. It is a business, it is not some type of programming for the masses.

The storyline in this OP has been ongoing for a while now. The wrestler, "The Truth", "snapped" one night and went crazy. As he has tried to gain a title shot, and failed repeatedly he has blamed it on a conspiracy to keep him the title. However, if you actually have paid attention to this storyline at all, you would already know that the "conspiracy" is a self inflicted conspiracy brought on by "The Truth's" irrational behavior and attacks on others.

Sorry to say, there is nothing here but what this OP has chosen to believe and made up in his/her own mind.

For all the posters who think they are funny with all the "What do you mean becoming?" comments.... you are actually showing your own bias and ignorance.

For years "Conspiracy Theorist" have claimed that the JFK assassination was a Conspiracy and that the Warren Commission got it wrong. Then in 1976 we saw the formation of The United States House of Representatives Select Committee on Assassinations who in 1979 released their final report which concluded that President John F. Kennedy was very likely assassinated as a result of a conspiracy.

Score: Conspiracy theorist 1- non Conspiracy theorist 0.

"Conspiracy Theorist" for years have claimed that the death of Martin Luther King Jr was the result of a conspiracy. This was also investigated by The United States House of Representatives Select Committee on Assassinations who claimed that "there is a likelihood" that the shooting of MLK Jr. was the result of a conspiracy.

Score: Conspiracy Theorist 2 - Non Theorist 0

"Conspiracy Theorist" for years have claimed that elements within the US Government have smuggled drugs into the U.S. Namely the CIA. Then in 2007 1.3 miles from Tikokob in Yucatan, Mexico after being chased by Mexican military helicopters for flying illegally into Mexican airspace, a Gulfstream II crash landed. No bodies were found at the crash site but on board the plane was discovered 132 bags containing 3.3 metric tons of coc aine. The tail number of the Gulfstream is N987SA and was one of the planes chartered to the CIA for the renditioning of kidnapped prisoners.

Score: Conspiracy Theorist 3 - Non Theorist 0


The list goes on and on. Gulf on Tonkin incident, MKULTRA, Cointelpro, Operation Mockingbird, The Manhattan project, The Tuskegee Study, Watergate, Operation Northwoods, 1990 Testimony of Nayirah which garnered the support for the first Iraq War, the 1933 Business Plot, Operation Ajax, Operation Snow White, and the list continues to grow. Please also do not forget my favorite Conspiracy Theorist moment concerning One World Government which those crazy Conspiracy Theorist have been babbling about for decades......



So before going on to say that "Conspiracy Theorist" are a laughing stock, you might want to consider how many things they actually got right, and how long it took to prove it or get it confirmed.

reply to post by MarkJS

reply to post by MrWendal



Conspiracy theories exist for a reason.

To give more credence to conspiracy theorists... We cannot just take at face value whatever the MSM spoons out. If we question it, does that make us all "conspiracy theorists"?

Jesus says in Matthew 24: And you will hear of wars AND RUMORS OF WARS. (uppercase, mine)

... meaning that the info we get will not be reliable.... which to me is ludicrous in this 'age of information'.

reply to post by Xcellante



Lol I think you might be diving into that story line a little too much there,while the entertainment industry is full of some bogus idea's wwe while entertaining to some to others there just little kids who had dreams of becoming pro wrestlers.

Flamboyant ego's and entertainers work on the same lines and each wrestler has to have some kind of story line or plot to create interest in the person as a wrestler some go over board and dress up like morons but some go on to change a lot of life with their wonderful entertaining and some times funny gimmicks.

R truth is no different,if you were to meet him outside of wrestling he'd be as normal as you or I,wrestling is a living like some of us that have career's or making a living doing what ever it is you do for a crust in a every changing world it's people that put importance on a matter like this that makes me laugh lol.

While I did reply to the original poster I'm not scared to say I dive into "Conspiracy Theorists" idealism's for the purpose of a knowing fact from fiction, some theory's don't always add up propaganda is always a tool to install fear into a society of people who know nothing about subject's that only interest those that go after it.

The problem is what information that is given is some times screwed with and twisted,like the game of Chinese whispers the theory to it is to whisper into some bodies ear and the following people do like wise and 99% of the time the original content of the first whisper if not listen too properly will be diluted down and the first message will either come out with some thing different and confused looks on every one's faces .

So the problem I see with some Conspiracy Theorists is if they don't have reliable sources of information then their theory is hollow and not sustainable to bring down a nation or group of people trying to control the world.

Hitler used theories to justify his cause to the European nations he invaded based on his own agenda and caused unrest during the time he convinced other's to follow suit as Germany needed allies to support his idealisms upon his dislike for people invading his country but not in a military term but to escape what ever suppressed them at the time so they moved to Germany hoping to escape it little did they know some man of a small statue would seal their fates based on his own theories.

Us based organizations of a political nature such as the CIA,NSA and news groups like FOX and other form of media subliminally suggest to us though you might not think it but the brain takes on this news and we over think things and go off on some rant to express our dislike for a subject or world event that is going on in the world.


The greatest lie in history is (well maybe just one of them as there is so many) is The George W Bush administration's push on the theory of the ever worrying thought that Saddam Hussain had at his disposable weapons of mass destruction ? so the CIA being the leading intelligence agency in the world were ask to support this fact and where given the green light to make a report on this matter.

Little did the Bush Administration know that the chosen group to help them in their push to invade a country already beaten down in the first Gulf War by Bush's own father George Bush senior in the 90's.

Now to the Administration this was egg on their faces as the central intelligence agency could not back this claim made by the white house to go to war in Iraqi for the purpose of disarming a man that had already been beaten into submission but clearly this wasn't good enough for George W so with his agenda pushed by groups deep with in the shadows of the public eye groups like the Bilderberg Group's backing he pursued it.

Then came the reviews on TV with the public debate about this so called theory keeping the administration up at night thinking and brain washing their allied countries into supporting this bogus theory to pursue War with a down trodden country still recovering from the first Gulf War.

So Conspiracy Theorists has it's place and is sustainable enough to question moves made by politically motivated groups of people who for the most part only think of themselves and how it will effect this own freedom and some times bank balances as we all know such groups as the Bilderberg Group are elected officials of chosen rich families and banking and wealthy nations and other forms to make up this group.

No. Even if they now have 1000's of web sites and videos about all the subject matter that seems like its exposing the NWO (complete with some hip-hop or rap) they always leave out one little thing which makes it all irrelevant.

Originally posted by Freedom_is_Slavery
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Effing hilarious!!!!

reply to post by aceto


Speaking of selling books, one prize whoop-bang-bang example of a laughing stock is Mike Bara, author of a book ("The Choice") that contains so many howling errors of fact that I'm surprised it didn't self-destruct right off the presses.

I guess Mikey realises he dropped a clanger with that one. His next book is about pets. LOL.

Asertus.

Of course but mainly because alot of Conspiracy Theorists have a highly radical view of everything around them and alot of them/us think everything is a Conspiracy. I mean people really believe the Worlds Governments will commit Genocide and put us in Concentration Camps lol. And also because people are close minded.

Are we becoming a laughing stock? We've BEEN a laughing stock ever since the first conspiracy theorist decided to step out of the shadows and dared to question whatever was commonly accepted as truth. While it's true that some conspiracy theories are silly and some conspiracy theorists are inevitably found to be completely bonkers, you might as well wear the "paranoid nutjob" label proudly. It's probably going to be thrown at you every single time you out yourself as a conspiracy theorist whether you like it or not. The reason is real simple. It's easier to win an argument by calling people names than it is to argue for days with one individual and give them a chance to potentially gain a few allies. Conspiracy theories are generally unprovable but the flip side of that coin is that something that's unprovable is often just as hard to disprove. It's just as hard to be a debunker as it is to be conspiracy theorist. But the debunkers have a silver bullet. Sometimes it's godwin's law and sometimes it's just "paranoid nutjob" or "tinfoil hat". Whatever they use, it generally shuts the whole thing down with just a few words. Be ready for it everywhere you go. Being a conspiracy theorist is a lonely life. You will never have a lot of friends if you ask uncomfortable questions.