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Western women don't care about double standards against men.

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posted on May, 25 2011 @ 11:23 AM
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Why buy the COW when you can get the milk for next to nothing.You pay for it in the end anyways. The only difference between paying for sex and dating is you don't have to put up with their b.s.



posted on May, 25 2011 @ 11:33 AM
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Originally posted by mblahnikluver

Originally posted by Envious

Originally posted by Helig
@Envious

Take it from a seasoned veteran, women on the whole are overrated. If you feel a need to have someone in your life because of some arbitrary quality perhaps you should re-evaluate yourself. Staying single is a financially sound move that ensures your finances and and time remain your own.


That's why I was thinking about focusing on my work and side fun stuff instead of being a drone like other guys. If I want women I can just call an escort. Did you know they have cheap safe-sex shops in Japan. Really awesome if you ask me.


MOVE to Japan already!

Go get your sex on there, have fun. I am sure you can offer to help with the Fukishima disaster and get paid lots of money and a one way ticket there. If you need links I will help you.


Can't just move to Japan so easily. First I need a lot of money (I don't have), A 4-5 year degree(I don't have), and even then I'm not sure if I'll get a good job outside of being an english teacher. Most people just become lame english teacher sadly.

Another problem is searching for a sex shop that takes gaijins like myself. The ones owned by nigerians are dirty STD centrals. Also those guys give you white washed chinese or white girls



posted on May, 25 2011 @ 11:35 AM
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posted on May, 25 2011 @ 11:50 AM
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Originally posted by Envious
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AS they all should be....

The one above is over the line with the language and stereo types..Racist and a sexist it seems..

WOW no wonder you are single...

I don't think Japanese women deserve you.



posted on May, 25 2011 @ 12:03 PM
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Originally posted by mblahnikluver

Originally posted by Envious
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AS they all should be....

The one above is over the line with the language and stereo types..Racist and a sexist it seems..

WOW no wonder you are single...

I don't think Japanese women deserve you.


I didn't say the N word if that's what you're thinking



posted on May, 25 2011 @ 12:04 PM
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Envious,

A few years ago, I would have 100% agreed with everything you said. But as you have said, men age like a fine wine (and so do many, many women), and with that age comes experience and wisdom. Your hatred for women, in my opinion, is an expression of your own self loathing and lack of confidence. How many times have you been shot down in your life? I bet I can beat you. How many bad relationships have you had? I bet I can beat you.

The difference between me and you?

Confidence, and love of self.

Having a personality, an outgoing nature, and a good sense of humor goes a long way. Believe me, it does.


From one man to another, grow up, do something that makes you feel better about yourself, and for cripe's sake, don't paint all women with such a broad brush.


I wish for you peace and more confidence. You certainly need some.




Peace be with you.

-truthseeker



posted on May, 25 2011 @ 11:32 PM
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Are you responding to me because I was responding to the op and to put down in comparison about as truly as I see it from my perspective. What you quoted is not even from me but his 1 trough 17 beefs with western women. Or are you just confused, and your emotions got you to respond all irrational like? I am not the one with the thing for Japanese girls I don't even know any Japanese girls. But i am sure that if its female it really is not that big of a difference then all other females out there, and he is mistaken that they are all that different.



posted on May, 26 2011 @ 12:02 AM
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Third: Men must stop letting women control the dating game. You guys have to dominate her emotions, become the controller instead of her. ALL WOMEN secretly are a hive mind manipulating you males. Remember that women ARE THE ENEMY!


Oh man I think you just found out there secret all women have a hive mind like the grays. There aliens I tellz ya, we must fight back the invasion and gain our freedom from there mind control.


You have just found out the obvious. I think you should start by liberating your mind from whatever mind control they seem to have you under. Because I have never seen anybody so obsessed with females other then sex addicts and stalker types, or you have probably had to deal with some really devious females before, or your just plain devious yourself. So which one are you? Whats you deal dude? Or you just trolling? Either way its an interesting thread.



posted on May, 26 2011 @ 12:43 AM
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Oh whatever. There's double standards for men and women. Cry me a river.



posted on May, 26 2011 @ 01:34 AM
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Originally posted by galadofwarthethird
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Are you responding to me because I was responding to the op and to put down in comparison about as truly as I see it from my perspective. What you quoted is not even from me but his 1 trough 17 beefs with western women. Or are you just confused, and your emotions got you to respond all irrational like? I am not the one with the thing for Japanese girls I don't even know any Japanese girls. But i am sure that if its female it really is not that big of a difference then all other females out there, and he is mistaken that they are all that different.

Oh no, sorry, I was being lazy and hoping not to get the formatting mixed up! I was responding to the OP, and just took out your words and put my own in, sorry, I messed up!
By and large I agreed with you..
Vicky
(I have pretty bad eyesight, and often mess the quoting up, so I tried the lazy way, and next time, I'll do it differently)



posted on Jun, 3 2011 @ 11:00 PM
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Originally posted by Envious
Why bother with western women when they don't give a rat's ass about men. One thing I notice is that many Japanese women are respectful and understand of a guys problems compared to shallow selfish western women.


Understand a guys problems? Women don't like men who come to them whining about their problems, it's supposed to be the other way around.


1. Men have to be tall, confident, handsome, perfect teeth, strong, no issues, fit, funny, leader, and manly. (Women just have to look nice.) It's sad so many women think they have it worse in this area.


People, naturally, are more trusting of handsome individuals. Women being attracted to taller, stronger men is an evolutionary program; taller + stronger = better protection.


3. Most American women lie when they say looks don't matter. It matters alot and MOST even on this forum won't admit it.


Yes, it does matter somewhat, but in truth, women mostly work on feelings.. men are the visual creatures. If you think looks matter, they can sense that, believe me, and as soon as you let that get you down, you're #ed. It's not hard to go to the gym and to start eating healthy(er) and gain a little confidence in yourself.


4. Most western women don't like short thin males.


Wrong. The behemoths you see in gyms, you know, those ones that look like they would have trouble wiping their ass after taking a dump, well, most women are pretty intimidated by that I'd say. Humans don't naturally look that way, I would say the majority are attracted to the skinnier athletic type (but not skinny as a rail with no muscle, that just looks kind of weak imo).


5. Most Western women are too unevolved to like Short healthy skinny guys. (Many are slaves to that primitive desire for tall dark and muscular.


That's evolutionary psychology, not a bi-product of any particular culture.


6. Society views muscle men as morons.


Arnold Schwarzenegger is the Governor of California?


7. Male issues aren't important to most women. (Then women cry about rape or abuse after they're the ones that didn't give a damn about male mental issues.)


Don't complain, suck it up. Pull yourself together man.


8. Most American media is female centric.


Sex sells


9. Women in general don't care about male-anything but SOCIETY EXPECTS WE MEN PROTECT AND CODDLE THEM.


Likewise, men don't care about anything females are into. I don't go do my nails or particularly like spending time in a mall all day (that is a complete stereotype I know).


10. Most western women still think of men and little boys as expendables


Only the tools that they know they can use to get what they want. Passively put them in their place and show them they can't have everything they want.


11. Skinny men that are healthy in America are told by everybody that they must bulk up. Many young boys got body image problems butttttttt women don't care. (ONLY IN AMERICAN WOMEN HAVE ISSUES)


Size does not correlate to strength.

See: David and Goliath


13. American society doesn't care about sexual abused boys as much as girls.


Maybe, but in reality girls are probably abused much more, therefore you are more apt to hear or read about it.


14. Marriage is only benefits women even more here in 2011.


Depends on the circumstances.


15. Women don't give a damn about extreme hypermasculine male on male violence. Many will just say "boys will be boys" and generalize all males as animals.


We are animals.


16. Western women cry about being fat yet soon as a male has any issues with himself they get told to man-up by women.


This is nothing new. Imagine being a girl and you're ugly, well you're kind of screwed (no pun intended) in most instances. If you're a guy and you're ugly, you still have a chance.


17. Can't tell a lazy fat american woman to get healthy without a group of of hive minded females defending an unhealthy life style. But it's ok for American women to make fun of echomorph men who have trouble gaining muscle mass and must work double just to gain a pound.


I have never in my life seen any woman point out a man and say "oh he's such an ectomorph, I can't date him, he doesn't have any muscle".

Work the system, don't let it work you.
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posted on Jun, 23 2011 @ 08:27 PM
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Originally posted by Avyuir
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Oh whatever. There's double standards for men and women. Cry me a river.


Bet if I was female you would have been all caring and telling me things will get better. Your actions reflect the unsympathetic nature of females. You women NEVER even try to understand the males point of view yet you expect us to understand you.

This topic is proof women don't give a damn about males. Maybe I shouldn't help a woman about to get murdered or raped then? Why help shallow cold hearted creatures that don't care about me. Women just USE men as tools (objects) for protection and their own selfish needs.



posted on Jun, 23 2011 @ 08:52 PM
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I think it is rather unintelligent of you to just assume all women are like that. However I do agree with you that male problems like body image are not given as much attention or deemed as important as female body image problems. I believe that has more to do with the society we live in today though. Is it right? Of course not.



posted on Jun, 23 2011 @ 09:04 PM
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Ya...you hate westeren women ....I get it....your venom does spew forth....
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posted on Jun, 24 2011 @ 11:02 AM
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Originally posted by xstatic
Materialistic, self-absorbed,whinny , spoiled wanna be princesses , lazy, fat, blow hards raising kids with no fathers , saying "I don't need a man" but "need his child support" , been living on welfare of 10 years never once looking for a job , vindictive , pathological liars, and that's just the "good" ones! That's just my opinion


Oh please, cry me a damn river. How about we put you in a giant box with 100% male population and see how you do. That's where all men like you should go, a giant box separate from society (as well as the author of this thread). But 'that's just my opinion'


Edit: And just as Avyuir said, there is a double standard on both men and women. I see the author of this threads mood is "bitter". You need to go rant to your cat or a therapist about your mommy/ex-girlfriend issues, here is not the place for it..
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posted on Jun, 24 2011 @ 12:55 PM
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Originally posted by Envious
First off: It's a scientific 100% FACT that women are programmed to lust after taller fit guys. The female brain is still far too primitive as you can see. You females are emotionally controlled life-forms that use manipulation tactics to when battles (as some of you already trying to do now). If a woman even dates a short guy it's because he has control over her primitive emotions like the mindless animal she is.

Okay you freaken rascist jerk. This post has me riled into litteraly wanting to bite your neck and tear "ALL" your strong self esteem away from you until you felt like I did long, long ago. A worthless piece of dog s##t and your crying begging for a womans warm touch and carress when you know what? YOU DEFINITELY WONT GET ANY!!!! Speaking as a woman I have grown up in a strict catholic family. I had to grow my own pair of pants and I even went and became a spiritualist on my own accord after being sheltered all of my life until the age of 21 which is pretty darn bad. I don't know half of the street smarts I should but I know plenty to get myself by. I am 'NOT" attractive. At least I don't feel that way. I will admit I'm a selfish bastard but you know what? I WORK EVERYDAY TO TRY AND ELIMINATE THOSE ISSUES FROM MY VERY BEING!!!! You think its easy seeing what you are all of a sudden and not liking it and having to strip away everything that made you feel comfortable in order to become a better person? That and men have always left me "ABANDONED AND FEELING HOPELESS!!!!" I help men like you, I have no problem with it and half the time I let things slide for the sake of the injured persons feelings but this time you have crossed the line and you need to be put in your god dang place. Mindless animal? O M G..... really now? ~Laughs~ Okay... I'm an animal alright and that animal is a wolf that wouldn't hesitate to put you in your place. Hows that for a mindless animal? But more importantly as for us using manipulation.... do you give us a choice sometimes? Really we have no choice sometimes but to do things like that in order to make ya'll see the light or in the worst case scenario and its very unlikely we ever have to do this get money. ((Which btw I've never had to do. I work for my money thank you.))

Second: We males are programmed to spread the seed. Because of this we males aren't mindless slaves like women. That's why we men have more sexual fetishes. (Porn for females is always the same/tall fit guy dominating her........boring and primitive)

No most of ya'll just think with the head without the brain.... then again I'm thinking thats how "YOU" think. Oh and yes I'm bashing but only because you brought this upon yourself. But no seriously.... most men "AREN'T" programmed that way... they are just naturally that way and us women have to learn to accept it and be there for them when they are in the mood. If we truly love them that is what we will do. For once set aside time to please them.

Third: Men must stop letting women control the dating game. You guys have to dominate her emotions, become the controller instead of her. ALL WOMEN secretly are a hive mind manipulating you males. Remember that women ARE THE ENEMY!

......YOUR OUR ENEMY!!! Quit telling other men who have your problems bad advice. They need to listen to their heart and search for their mate or remain alone and survive and try to be understanding of both sides of the coin.

-By controller, I mean manipulating her emotions in a way it benefits you.

Thats racism right there.

-Never have kids and NEVER get married because she'll trap you.

HA!!!! Funny thing about that is is that all ya'll have to do is leave "US" pregnant. Your not trapping yourself... your trapping "US!!!"

-NEVER be fooled by a women's fake kindness. They do so to manipulate you into thinking they're sweet and kind, but as we all know they aren't.

Most women do... and most don't. You have to really search into their souls to see the truth.

-Never show weakness to a female no matter what. Even when women say it's ok, IT'S NOT. Once a female can see it she'll use it against you.

I actually agree on this one.

-Money, escorts, and technological entertainment is all a guy needs. YOU ARE MALE! I AM MAN!

LOL You have fun with that. You'll possibly get AIDS along the way.

Men this is a war we can win.

Again... men don't listen to this idiot.




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posted on Jun, 24 2011 @ 09:36 PM
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Okay so far I've seen at least two sexist threads posted by you. Read my thread Men Vs. Women?

That's as far as I'll extend my helping hand to you. If that doesn't clear anything up for you, then I'm sorry but you might want to prepare for a pretty lonely life.



posted on Jun, 29 2011 @ 06:38 PM
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Originally posted by Envious
First off: It's a scientific 100% FACT that women are programmed to lust after taller fit guys. The female brain is still far too primitive as you can see. You females are emotionally controlled life-forms that use manipulation tactics to when battles (as some of you already trying to do now). If a woman even dates a short guy it's because he has control over her primitive emotions like the mindless animal she is.

Second: We males are programmed to spread the seed. Because of this we males aren't mindless slaves like women. That's why we men have more sexual fetishes. (Porn for females is always the same/tall fit guy dominating her........boring and primitive)

Third: Men must stop letting women control the dating game. You guys have to dominate her emotions, become the controller instead of her. ALL WOMEN secretly are a hive mind manipulating you males. Remember that women ARE THE ENEMY!

-By controller, I mean manipulating her emotions in a way it benefits you.
-Never have kids and NEVER get married because she'll trap you.
-NEVER be fooled by a women's fake kindness. They do so to manipulate you into thinking they're sweet and kind, but as we all know they aren't.
-Never show weakness to a female no matter what. Even when women say it's ok, IT'S NOT. Once a female can see it she'll use it against you.
-Money, escorts, and technological entertainment is all a guy needs. YOU ARE MALE! I AM MAN!

Men this is a war we can win.


I avoided your threads, thought they were fishing, in a certain fashion? Today I read them, they were actually somewhat funny,though lacking logic and deep thinking, seemed to be provactive by design, (which means the lacks could be intentional?)showed intelligence but programming, mystery school distortions. Having watched many animes myself, even wanted to draw mangas earlier, I know the programming in them, on the other hand......assignment.

You speak alot of programming, the hardwiring of the body suit, and at the same time made some comments that were spiritual in nature. And that you didn't want to be here. What you don't realize is you do. Everyone here does, and needs to be. Your posts indicate quite strongly why you need to be. It is a school.

1. Men and women are programmed, and like all things in the school, there is postive and negative opposition in the outer world, nature (dog eat dog or cooperation), our bodies and feelings (patience/impatience). Most people make mistakes in their lives. I always like tall dark haired men, but my first date was 6 5, very thin, blond, basket ball player, good sense of humor, too conservative for me, bad kisser, but cute as could be. Not in the least my type at all. He would seek me out at lunch time with a friend as witness to further argue my too liberal views that were unearthed in our forced group projects in law class. Since then, wide variety. Though the tall is natural, it ran in our family. My dad was a work a holic, so actually prefered, the barefoot on the beach poet types. The ones who have the best relationships overcome their programming, are flexible, and work on communication and being freinds. I consider programs to dominate others, or respond aggressively, violently, to be warring, that many males indoctrinated into to be primitive. But I don't consider men to be primitive, and many wake up during their lives to think more deeply on the conditioning, just like women do.

2. This lacks logic and deep thinking, and is just plain weird.
The whole species needs to grow up sexually IMO.

3. Well, that won't work. Really trust me on that.

By the way, Japanese women are only "submissive" culturally in their very conditioned manners. The culture has a surface "show" of politeness, and is very graceful, making an art out of outer formalities. But like the natives here, you can't know what they're thinking. Japanese mangas and animes, the gay ones, were initially written by women (not the porn, but the mainstream toons) as a reaction to the male dominating society. Very low marriage rates, most women are not willing to give up their income and independence to live a life where they give up work, and the male, traditionally drinks with his friends after work and seeks other women, so their lives become form and tied into children. Hence the lure of the gay man, who is seen as more feminine and a woman's best friend. This became so popular, musicians adapted this style. Though the guys use mesh between them when they kiss onstage, because despite their gender bending ways, most are still straight.

I like Jrock music, and slender, beautiful looking men. There are many women who don't go for the muscled look. here
However, that being said, flexibility is a very intelligent choice, because if one stereotypes body builders, the next person who shows wit, charm and intelligence they meet might be just be one.

In short, men are loved by most women, despite the things we tend to disagree with, their annoying tendency to leave the toilet seat up, or even worse, to to be lazy and not put the toilet seat up.

The rest is completely irrational, immature, and like I said has a feeling of one on an assignment.









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posted on Jun, 29 2011 @ 09:31 PM
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fashionlawyerblog.com...


Manorexia: Extremely Thin Male Models- Bad Fashion Week Trend?

Remember the 1990’s days of Kate Moss and heroine chic? Skinny was king. It seems that lean is mean these days for male models.


Though many women do like lean mean, I think this trend is pedifilic, and damaging like the way girls are sexualized by the industry.



posted on Jun, 30 2011 @ 10:15 AM
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I'm not going let myself get offended by anything in this thread.
It should be obvious to anyone that Envy & Exuberant1 were dropped on their heads as baby's - Bless their little cottons.

Anyways, one of my friends always swore blind my ideal man should be Danny Deveto, purely because I always seemed to go for shorter chunky blokes. To be fair she had a point, but at over 6 foot in heels taller guys suddenly become few and far between & no I will not give up my heels. Blessed is a guy comfortable with his stature unafraid of dating a big bird. They usually have a wonderful sense of humor tooboot.


Come to think of It I currently have an inappropriate crush on this guy. Oh the unspeakable things I could do to Mr Tumble.

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