EHEC plague in Germany, more and more infected fighting for their lives!

Originally posted by ni91ck
I live near the border of Germany and here in the Dutch papers they talk about it! I saw that a woman of 83 was died from it. So we hope this wil not spreading to fast. Just clean your food and bake the mead hot. Stay healthy

Yes it was a 83 year old woman who died. You see as always the elderly (and probably the younger ones) are a risk group. The tour group I mentioned above consisted of mainly elderly people.

Chemtrails came to my thoughs when I read about this.

If I were ill with this I'd be looking for effective alternative solutions - colloidal silver and apple cider vinegar and manuka honey come to mind or food grade hydrogen peroxide.

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Um..I just don't know... In my opinion it has nothing to do with chemtrails or anything like that but we will have to see...

This is scary. I have just been diagnosed with Helicobacter pylori bacteria The doctor told me it was most likely caused by something I ate a long time ago, probably meat not cooked all the way. I used to eat all of my meat rare. I way also diagnosed with a severe case of Gastritis. Thankfully I have good doctors.

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Hey hope you are well and get much better soon,

A friend of mine got Gardia whilst travelling in Africa ive never seen someone so sick,

we forget sometimes how delicate our ststomach bowels etc can be, and the multitude of bacteria that are there.

Get well soon m8

Kind Regards,

Elf

You have to wonder why the focus is on unwashed vegetables. Rare meat eating when it is contaminated is as good a candidate, as would be anything contaminated and not properly cooked. Bavaria had a scare a while back with bad meat sold to kebab restaurants, and there was a general scare with Dioxin found in dairy products earlier this year. German food is generally pretty wholesome and uncomplicated. Perhaps the nub of the problem is in the selling of food, which is/was unlicensed. It would only take someone unscrupulous to wholesale bad meat etc, if it was missed or not seen by inspectors.

Originally posted by autowrench
This is scary. I have just been diagnosed with Helicobacter pylori bacteria The doctor told me it was most likely caused by something I ate a long time ago, probably meat not cooked all the way. I used to eat all of my meat rare. I way also diagnosed with a severe case of Gastritis. Thankfully I have good doctors.

Heliobacter_pylori is the bacteria that causes stomach ulcers. A friend of mine was diagnosed with it. Manuka honey cleared it.

Here's an article about manuka honey, including it's effect on heliobacter_pylori.

Originally posted by Dalbeck
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Um..I just don't know... In my opinion it has nothing to do with chemtrails or anything like that but we will have to see...

Sure, it may not have anything to do with chemtrails - it was just the first thought that came to mind when I heard about the epidemic.

Update: by this morning 3 diseased people.

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UPDATE: 600 (!) infected and 4 deceased people by this morning!

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Dalbeck what is news on the arae of infection is it still very localised or popping up all over Germany?

Appreciate your time

Kind Regards,

Elf

Originally posted by MischeviousElf
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Dalbeck what is news on the arae of infection is it still very localised or popping up all over Germany?

Appreciate your time

Kind Regards,

Elf

Hi Elf!

The concentration of the infected is mostly in the northern part of Germany but the first cases were announced in the area around Munich/ Bavaria so it's seemingly popping up all over Germany.

Some politicians are even considering to announce alert level 1 for the entire E.U. by the way!!

Hi, what is the latest news on this situation? Thanks

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60 new cases of infection from Thursday to today's Friday. One of the 5 deceased was a 38 years old man.

Assumption of the origin of the bacteria: imported cucumbers from Spain.

Infection rate is still increasing.

Hi Dalbeck, thanks a lot for the updates on this. As I'm living in Hamburg it's important to know the current status. Can you tell me if the symtoms differ from any other infection of this kind for a healthy person? Is it just the same (only more serve) or are the symtoms that tell me it's EHEC and not just something else. And if you're healthy is this going away on it's own?

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This seems like a scary situation, indeed.

Here is a link to RSOE.
hisz.rsoe.hu...

You can click on all of the little red bio-hazard symbols in germany, and the location and date bubble will pop up. Then click "details". It will take you to the expanded situation page. Then click "situation update".

It will give you information about it. Dalbeck is in Germany, it looks like, so we will look for his updates. But at least this will give you something to check when he is not here. I hope it helps you.

Originally posted by UnixFE
Hi Dalbeck, thanks a lot for the updates on this. As I'm living in Hamburg it's important to know the current status. Can you tell me if the symtoms differ from any other infection of this kind for a healthy person? Is it just the same (only more serve) or are the symtoms that tell me it's EHEC and not just something else. And if you're healthy is this going away on it's own?

You're welcome!

Yes, the symtoms differ. There's no case known to me which included fever (like it's the case with the Noro virus in most of the cases for example). It starts with an aching stomache and diarrhea which becomes more and more liquid. Kidney aching up until kidney failure can be expected within 2 days of no treatment (worst/ heavy cases). Antibiotics are not recommended because they split the bacteria and release the toxics in the stomach.

If you have the feeling to be infected attend a doctor/ hospital as fast as possible, don't waste any time! They have the means to fight against EHEC (if it's treated in time there are good chances of getting through without any major health issues!!!). Time is important!

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It seems strange that this subject is not getting more attention. It seems really serious. The number of infected have increased by about 100 everyday. It was at 700 yesterday and now is reading at 800 and is spreading into Sweden. And if the bacteria is suspected to have its start in cucumbers from Spain...then why isn't anyone from Spain ill?

Health officials in Denmark and Sweden reported Friday a total of 32 confirmed cases of people afflicted by the EHEC bacterium, all of whom had previously been travelling in Germany. Officials in Copenhagen said that additionally, the EHEC bacterium was found in Spanish cucumbers in two supermarkets. Merchants were ordered to immediately withdraw all their products imported from the producers involved. Swedish health officials advised people currently travelling in Germany to take special precautions to avoid contacting the virulent bug, a new sub-strain of E. coli, enterohaemorrhagic Escherichia coli, or EHEC. The EHEC first broke out in the northern German port city of Hamburg, with health authorities there pointing to cucumbers imported from Spain as the source of the bacterium. Four people in Germany have died and hundreds taken ill from the EHEC bug.

I don't understand this statement. If it is found in produce and raw meat, which affects you if eaten, then how does it pass from person to person?

EHEC is a very contagious disease and can pass from person to person. “We have a few of these cases as well, where family members have passed the disease among each other,” Per Follin, a specialist on infectious disease from western Sweden.

Source

Just bumping this thread for anyone who hadn't already become aware of this issue.

The number of infected are rising steadily as well as spreading out to other areas. It is being recorded in: Germany, Sweden, Britain, the Netherlands and Denmark.

The number of recorded infected people went from 138 on May 25 to 900 on May 29. That's over a 650% increase in 4 days!

The Sweden-based European Centre for Disease Prevention and Control said this outbreak was "one of the largest described of HUS worldwide and the largest ever reported in Germany". It said: "While HUS cases are usually observed in children under five years of age, in this outbreak 87% are adults, with a clear predominance of women (68%)."

I still don't understand why no one in Spain is ill, if the infected produce came from there. Don't they eat their own produce?

I also noticed that the updates from this source said that the produce was "organic". And it makes me wonder how useful this infection outbreak may be in helping to steer people and businesses away from organic foods. But that thought might just be from my tin foil corset being laced too tight.

2 concerns
Spanish people not infected
Does radiation produce the same symptoms?
Japan can't sell their cucumbers, farmers offload to other dealers?