checotah teacher charged with having sex with student

If she was unsatisfied with her partner...then she should have told him....left...and then had an affair with another adult....this woman is foolish and an imbecile.

reply to post by caladonea


Why?

I never get that argument about sex? It makes no sense? Perhaps I love my wife very much, and she is a great wife, and a great mother, and I want to spend the rest of my life with her, but our sex drives and tastes are incompatible. Maybe 2 or 3 times a year, a fling keeps me happy and healthy, and she never knows, and I am the best husband, father, and provider that anyone could ask for. Maybe I support her emotionally, and physically to her tastes and needs, and the relationship is perfect.

Why would I give all of that up?
And why would she give all of that up over an occasional one-night stand?

I just don't get it. My wife and I are very open with one another, and this could never happen, but in a conventional relationship, I still don't get the idea that leaving one another is the appropriate thing to do over an infidelity when everything else in the relationship is good?

*Sigh*

I wasn't going to reply to this, but I just never learn to keep my mouth shut. Here we go...

Look, people. The teacher is being charged because what she did is illegal. You can't just choose which laws to follow based on what you feel at the moment. Because then, tomorrow some guy is going to think "Hmm, I like that man's whatever, I'm going to steal it from him because I don't agree with the law that says stealing is wrong... AND I expect not to be charged because I disagree with the law".

You just DON'T have sex with an underage guy/girl. It doesn't matter if the guy/girl looks mature enough to you, it's against the law. You can't just go around breaking laws and expecting not to be punished. She's an adult and a teacher at that, she most certainly knows that having sex with a minor is illegal but she did it anyway. Break the law= Punishment.

Originally posted by originunknown
why wern't any of my teachers like this?

They were all too busy trying to teach you how to spell "weren't" correctly.

haha im joking...bored, sorry.

On topic: If the teacher was younger (say, 20-25), I would take her side. But 38 is a little old to be messing with a freaking 16 year old.

I agree pretty much. But i think the decision should be up to the child on whether to pursue charges or not; Clearly the child was bragging so we already know the answer to that one.

Just have her removed from her job and all is solved.

Peace. Geez this dude isn't a "child" he is a dang teenager with raging hormones and apparently willing! I'd give him a high five. People forget that people in our basest form are just animals doing what animals do... on the discovery channel lol. If it was non consentual then thats bad but if he was into it then is see no foul. It may be against the ethics code of being a professional teacher but not a moral "code". Remember folks morality is dictated by time and culture.

Originally posted by originunknown
why wern't any of my teachers like this?

I know! Every boy has that 1 teacher they would like to. I know i did but i didn't succeed
not through lack of trying of course!

Originally posted by minkey53

Originally posted by dukeofjive
Lets install fear in our kids about sex, but heck lets show them how violence is a ok, its fine for violence to be everywhere but make sure you dont show billy how to have safe sex, or enjoyable sex.

Yes, it's OK for Billy to sit on his Xbox several hours a day shooting and killing people, driving like a madman and being chased by the Police! But it's bad to have wonderful sex with a beautiful woman????

it is wrong for anyone of any age to have sex with someone they have a position of power over...did she give him special grades too?...

Originally posted by getreadyalready
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Why?

I never get that argument about sex? It makes no sense? Perhaps I love my wife very much, and she is a great wife, and a great mother, and I want to spend the rest of my life with her, but our sex drives and tastes are incompatible. Maybe 2 or 3 times a year, a fling keeps me happy and healthy, and she never knows, and I am the best husband, father, and provider that anyone could ask for. Maybe I support her emotionally, and physically to her tastes and needs, and the relationship is perfect.

Why would I give all of that up?
And why would she give all of that up over an occasional one-night stand?

I just don't get it. My wife and I are very open with one another, and this could never happen, but in a conventional relationship, I still don't get the idea that leaving one another is the appropriate thing to do over an infidelity when everything else in the relationship is good?

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Coule you be Arnald S??

reply to post by Char-Lee


HaHa! No, but I empathize. The difference is that he had a "relationship" and a child. That is cheating. That is sharing your resources, and your love and time and emotion. That is wrong. HItting the clubs one night a month and having a one-night stand is not taking anything away from your regular family. I would personally be very hurt if I found out my wife had a long term relationship with someone on the side, but I wouldn't care if she had an occasional physical romp.

Here is how I see the whole illogical circle. We get jealous, because we don't want to lose someone. We stress over it, and we worry that if something happens we will lose them. The pressure and stress creates issues, and the couple needs a little space to counter that pressure. The space leads to a fling, the fling leads to regret, regret leads to someone trying to make amends and being an even better spouse. The jealous one, so worried about losing something, now drives it away intentionally over the fling?

How the hell does that make any sense? You don't want to lose them, so you create friction that leads to infidelity that leads to an apologetic and improved spouse, yet you throw them out anyway? In order to not lose them you leave them? I will never get it.

Of course, this is only valid for relationships that are otherwise good. A whole lot of the time, infidelity is just one more problem in an already doomed relationship, and it is perfectly logical to scrap the whole thing.

Most professions including teachers have a code of ethics they're expected to follow. Any teacher who gives a student a ride home, makes physical contact (even if it's non-sexual in nature), having private conversation with a student in a back room, uses vulgar or suggestive language, wears suggestive clothing, or attends "student parties," is clearly breaking their code of ethics. "Touchy teacher's just don't teach."

Any teacher who would put themselves in any of the situations above is just asking for trouble. Some teachers chose the teaching profession because they really want to nurture young kids or be liked by their students. Teachers really have to be constantly aware of what they do and what they say in this day and age. Too many kids are sexually active today, and some have been caught falsely accusing teachers just to get back at a tough or strict teacher.

These teachers who do this should be removed from their duties and brought up on charges. Parents trust teachers to be fair and ethical. These perverted and ignorant teachers, give the rest of the "good and ethical teachers" a bad rap. It's like lawyers, doctors and politicians. A few bad apples can change the public's impression of a particular profession. It's sad that some mature adults still don't know the difference between right and wrong. They sure don't get my sympathy.

Wow I so love the double standards on this site. If the roles were reversed and the teacher male, even if the student said it was consentual, every one of you would want the teacher castrated, sent to prison for life, hung, shot, and made to be on a nazi list.


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Originally posted by Djdoubt03
Wow I so love the double standards on this site. If the roles were reversed and the teacher male, even if the student said it was consentual, every one of you would want the teacher castrated, sent to prison for life, hung, shot, and made to be on a nazi list.

 

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Not me. I am always a fan of sex.

In fact, I think 16 year old girls are far more mentally and sexually mature than 16 year old males.

The only caveat, would be if the teacher was using coercion or threats or undue influence.

Originally posted by getreadyalready
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HaHa! No, but I empathize. The difference is that he had a "relationship" and a child. That is cheating. That is sharing your resources, and your love and time and emotion. That is wrong. HItting the clubs one night a month and having a one-night stand is not taking anything away from your regular family. I would personally be very hurt if I found out my wife had a long term relationship with someone on the side, but I wouldn't care if she had an occasional physical romp.

Here is how I see the whole illogical circle. We get jealous, because we don't want to lose someone. We stress over it, and we worry that if something happens we will lose them. The pressure and stress creates issues, and the couple needs a little space to counter that pressure. The space leads to a fling, the fling leads to regret, regret leads to someone trying to make amends and being an even better spouse. The jealous one, so worried about losing something, now drives it away intentionally over the fling?

How the hell does that make any sense? You don't want to lose them, so you create friction that leads to infidelity that leads to an apologetic and improved spouse, yet you throw them out anyway? In order to not lose them you leave them? I will never get it.

Of course, this is only valid for relationships that are otherwise good. A whole lot of the time, infidelity is just one more problem in an already doomed relationship, and it is perfectly logical to scrap the whole thing.

There is a lot of risk involved that you bring to the relationship...if you :step out". You risk desease, protected or not, pregnacy protected or not, you risk a crazy getting interested and stalking you or your family, you risk falling for the fling or uncounciously comparing your spouse I am sure there are many risks i have not thought of. Personaly i would not choose marriage if i did not want to remain faithful to husband.

Originally posted by agentblue


I agree pretty much. But i think the decision should be up to the child on whether to pursue charges or not; Clearly the child was bragging so we already know the answer to that one.

Just have her removed from her job and all is solved.

Peace.

Geez this dude isn't a "child" he is a dang teenager with raging hormones and apparently willing! I'd give him a high five. People forget that people in our basest form are just animals doing what animals do... on the discovery channel lol. If it was non consentual then thats bad but if he was into it then is see no foul. It may be against the ethics code of being a professional teacher but not a moral "code". Remember folks morality is dictated by time and culture.

Spoken like a true sociopath. What happens when society does as you suggest resident sociopath? Are we to become a sociopathic society to sate those who lack a conscience? Won't patterns prop-up to reinforce the concept that it is "ok" to sexually molest/rape all males? So males who aren't sociopaths will eventually be forced into situations that degrade and destroy their own soul(or risk being labeled gay and what not)?No TY!

P.S only sociopaths think morality is purely relativistic. Morality is innate for the most part(meaning people like you are biologically defective) with the rest being shaded by IQ and tradition(as normal means a person who has both sociopathic and empathic tendencies[ability to swing either way], so it wouldn't be surprising for some sociopathic actions to become an act of tradition).

She should be thrown in jail with the key flushed down the drain. As an adult that teacher should of known better.

Originally posted by Djdoubt03
Wow I so love the double standards on this site. If the roles were reversed and the teacher male, even if the student said it was consentual, every one of you would want the teacher castrated, sent to prison for life, hung, shot, and made to be on a nazi list.

 

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You have to understand a lot of the guy's on this web site are old foggies in their 40+. We are talking a very few oldies(greatest generation/silent generation), a lot of boomers and older gen x. Generations that enjoyed male privilege(something that no longer exists aside from delusional older guy's who still see their end of the bargain), and view the trade off between the male privilege they where raised with is a viable trade off for the dehumanization of all males(even though younger males have no gender based privilege, only gender based persecution)*.

The feminist's where right about one thing, older men are our mortal enemies in regards to gender equality and basically wanting the right to be treated like a human being(on that same token so to are feminist's our mortal enemies).

* Economic privilege shouldn't be confused for male privilege. The last social perceivable vestiges of "male privilege", as dictated by the PC crowd is in the upper middle class to Rich Class. Thus what they are seeing is the actions of males who happen to have economic privilege and not an example of a gendered privilege.

Just got an update from one of my wife's friends that still lives there.

To make matters worse this guy(student) she slept with was actually her daughter's boyfriend.

Yikes!

I f I was that student I would've kept it Lowkey

reply to post by sirhc0329


If the boy doesn't feel like he was a victim why should anyone else? This stuff is given almost the attention of a mass murderer on the loose. What's the point, to put it indelicately are going to screw. It's a nature fact of life. Sure, the teacher should be punished for breaking the rules but I see no victim here. Except, perhaps, her husband.

Originally posted by Watcher-In-The-Shadows

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If the boy doesn't feel like he was a victim why should anyone else? This stuff is given almost the attention of a mass murderer on the loose. What's the point, to put it indelicately are going to screw. It's a nature fact of life. Sure, the teacher should be punished for breaking the rules but I see no victim here. Except, perhaps, her husband.

Because it continues the current social trend of a) women not being held accountable for their actions and b) women(and white knights/mangina's) thinking they have a right to harm males. And will lead to further male dehumanization.

You have to be able to see the big picture in order to understand it all. Because if actions like these are allowed to pass, the slippery slope will end with society adopting a "Brave New World" type sexual attitude towards males. So even if a male was raped against his will people will react with a "So what he is just a boy", in the context that we are just sexual/animal beings without feelings, emotions or anything more(complete dehumanization).

Add in social acceptance of homosexuality, the long term extrapolation of where the slippery slope is going keeps getting even scarier(look up how Islam treats boy's and that is the reason why the left tolerates Islam. They tried it once in the late 1800's till they where exposed in the UK, they will try it again).

reply to post by korathin


Slippery Slope arguments are logically falacious for one. Another, what's happening here is more old school puritanical bs in which this woman is being all but tarred and feathered for her indiscretion.