Why do you think they are railroading the chief of the IMF?

They are slamming him like he really pissed someone off.

Dragged off plane, fingered immediately in line up, Harlem jail and then off to Riker's island.

This lil' fella stepped on the wrong toes.

reply to post by Version100


that's what you get for saying that the american dollar should be replaced as the world's reserve currency??
now, drop a trillion ounces of gold onto the white house lawn, and we will give you back your IMF chief!!
dang, not even the IMF want him back......they refused him diplomatic immunity, since he wasn't on official business.....so much for our bailout!!!

Isnt he the 'guy' who would decide were the IMF's money would go, in terms or which countrys and banks to bailout ? Important person, and he just happened to be detained in the US. Lol...

hmm, yeah and who will defend a dude who has raped someone.. hmm

reply to post by TheLoneArcher

Although I think that Napoleon would not think twice above framing DSK as he is known over here, he has a reputation of being a womaniser. He certainly has an eye for the ladies and is well known for his attempts at seduction. In fact, the French news is buzzing this morning. Another woman has come forward with claims that he made unwelcome advances toward her.

Now, this could be a major set-up (as most French still think) or, it could be taken at face value. Although, as of yesterday, I was thinking set-up, I am now starting to bend toward the other theory. It is entirely possible that DSK just went a woman too far.

I agree completely. This is the sort of "diplomatic incident" that usually gets discreetly covered up. I suspect it made the news because the US government would rather see Sarko get re-elected than be replaced by another Socialist. Then again, maybe he simply doesn't understand that when an American woman says "no," she means "no!"

This stinks to high heaven, it really does. I can't believe anyone takes this story seriously. Look at it with a dispassionate eye.

here we have an intelligent guy, 62 years old so somewhat experienced in life, powerful enough with the elites to be voted head of the IMF, who was going to be running for presidency of France. This is a man who is very well connected politically and socially. Yet 20 minutes before he has a lunch appointment he decides to run out of his hotel bathroom naked and to try and rape a maid (who by the way has entered to clean a room whilst still occupied)

We have conflicting reports after the event, such as he left in haste and and abandoned his belongings, which later turns out to be he actually just left his phone. Early reports stated the hotel phoned him on behalf of the police to discover his whereabouts, to find he was at the airport and then they rushed over to arrest him, HOW did they phone him when he left his phone in the hotel? The fact he was at a lunch appointment after the hotel, and as he claimed, HE called the hotel to say he had left his phone there and could they please bring it to the airport and told them which flight he was catch. Hardly the actions of someone fleeing a crime scene.

The flight he was on was booked well in advance of the alleged assault, because he had a meeting arranged with the German chancellor to discuss the Portugal bailouts, which by the way were passed without him the day after his arrest (coincidence?)

Again look at this guy and his lifestyle, then think he is arrested, held in Harlem? Why Harlem? is the hotel in Harlem? He is refused bail even with a million dollar bond being offered, then he is sent to Rikers Island, I mean why there? Ask yourself this is say for example a senator was arrested, would they be refused bail? Would they be sent to Rikers island? It really wouldn't surprise me if he was killed in a shower there.

Then look at the background situation, apart from what is happening at the IMF (Even though he is not convicted they are talking who will be his replacement, hell they were doing it before he was even arraigned) Look at teh situation with France, Obama comes out saying France is its strongest ally, (Really?) France has taken a new direction, attacking Arab/Islamic nations, they have introduced strong anti Islamic laws there, Sarkozy is deeply unpopular because of this with the French people, yet very popular in Washington, Who was going to be the one person who could defeat Sarkozy in an election?

Stich up from start to finish

reply to post by PrinceDreamer

perhaps the guy had dirt on both the french pm and a possible connection with american foreign policy with regards to the up and coming fake democracy about to be implemented in the middle east. it may have been related to the new round of bailouts in the eu. off topic but connected, i would say the writings on the wall when spain asks for a bailout.
i would also say that after checking your statement with a number of news outlets, it seems they may be doing a head job on the guy by locking him up with the bottom feeders (no offence to bottom feeders). i am unsure as to if he got the horn in the shower and just happened to notice a maid bending over the bed. who knows.
it seems bigger than an attempt at burying a bone. more like total character assassination possibly resulting from rubbing up the bankers the wrong way. it would be nice if he had a rep on the net spilling the quantative beans.
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I had forgotten but a couple of weeks ago th tv said that Gordon Brown was being considered for the IMF job LOL. Now that man ran the UK into the ground so if anyone wants to destroy the IMF, Gorby is your boy! However Straus-Kahn was considerably well thought of as head of the IMF so I can only come down on the side of this being a set-up.

If the bankers had wanted this man got off from a little sex scandal, it would have happened, its obvious that they did not want this man out and about and somehow they feared him. Perhaps a banker had developed a conscience and a few revellations were about to come out. Its unlikely in Where is he now though - Rikers.

reply to post by Lynda101

i am sure mr cameron put the brakes on old gordy getting the job. regarding the imf chief, i am sure he must have/had allies within the organisation. it will be interesting to see what transpires over the coming weeks in the scope of possible resignations/promotions or simply dirt sent to various outlets.
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Originally posted by DJW001


I agree completely. This is the sort of "diplomatic incident" that usually gets discreetly covered up. I suspect it made the news because the US government would rather see Sarko get re-elected than be replaced by another Socialist. Then again, maybe he simply doesn't understand that when an American woman says "no," she means "no!"

That's true of all women everywhere, so don't be so ignorant! Besides, I just heard on the BBC radio, that the woman is actually an immigrant from Africa. From what I see of American women on TV, they are not terribly fussy. They'll have sex with anyone who doesn't look like Jason Alexander!
Vicky

reply to post by Vicky32

That's true of all women everywhere, so don't be so ignorant! Besides, I just heard on the BBC radio, that the woman is actually an immigrant from Africa. From what I see of American women on TV, they are not terribly fussy. They'll have sex with anyone who doesn't look like Jason Alexander!
Vicky

No offense intended, I always assume that women make their boundaries clear, but not all societies recognize this fact. DSK is known as "The Seducer" in France, an admittedly phallocentric appellation intended as a compliment. The French media are beginning to play up the fact that the woman spoke French, suggesting that she may have been under the control of a French political faction. I suspect this whole affair has more to do with internal French politics than the fact that DSK is head of the FMI (IMF for Anglophones). Marine Le Pen seems to stand the most to gain here, and, since she's her father's daughter, I'm hoping she is exposed as being behind all this. (Unlikely as it is that she would employ an African!)

Originally posted by DJW001
reply to post by Vicky32

 

That's true of all women everywhere, so don't be so ignorant! Besides, I just heard on the BBC radio, that the woman is actually an immigrant from Africa. From what I see of American women on TV, they are not terribly fussy. They'll have sex with anyone who doesn't look like Jason Alexander!
Vicky

No offense intended, I always assume that women make their boundaries clear, but not all societies recognize this fact. DSK is known as "The Seducer" in France, an admittedly phallocentric appellation intended as a compliment. The French media are beginning to play up the fact that the woman spoke French, suggesting that she may have been under the control of a French political faction. I suspect this whole affair has more to do with internal French politics than the fact that DSK is head of the FMI (IMF for Anglophones). Marine Le Pen seems to stand the most to gain here, and, since she's her father's daughter, I'm hoping she is exposed as being behind all this. (Unlikely as it is that she would employ an African!)

Thank you, you make some very good points!
Vicky

This incident has been interesting. Most will say that perhaps someone had it in for him and others will say his own immoral and criminal behavior caught up with him, but let's also consider other possibilities.

It is known that his diplomatic status was cancelled or revoked prior to coming to NYC by the State Dept. which is by the way headed by Hillary Clinton.

Add it the media discussion about the IMF Chief having implicated the Bushes, Bill and Hillary Clinton and others in some litigated matter and we have the makings of means, motive, opportunity and did I mention motive?

Where I take this assemblage of data is to another possibility. The possibility that perhaps MKULTRA mind control was used to get the IMF Chief to do everything he did based on some coded word and trigger. Since his immunity from prosecution or his diplomatic status was revoked prior to his arrival in NYC, then it stands to reason that the State Dept was in the loop and doing what was needed in advance to ensure that after the allegations of criminal behavior, he would not be allowed to leave NYC with his immunity status.

Discrediting someone can take many approaches, but for someone powerful and rich, these precautions were evident by those that planned this incident and used many methods and means to achieve his jailing and charges of sexual assault.

Once in jail, all food, water, medicinal intake can be controlled or even poisoned so that in time the IMF Chief could commit suicide or die from a sudden heart attack due to his age and diminished condition of health.

There are many possibilities, but using mind control is not out of the realm of possibilities once you remind yourself of who the players are.

Bush and family, both Clinton's, Greenspan, FED Reserve heads and others are those that have the means, capability, and the opportunity to do such a thing, especially if the victim has to be removed carefully so as not to create a problem with the victim saying or doing something that would harm or reveal the identities of those hidden players that would be harmed if the IMF Chief were to implicate certain politicians and financiers and had no charges pending.

Lastly was the IMF Chief's scheduled plan to run for French Prime Minister and it can be seen that Zarkosy of France was clearly helped out by the usual Washington cabal of suspects that has in the end helped Zarkosy get reelected to French Prime Minister without someone in the race who could have beat Zarkosy or caused political problems.

Connect the dots and ask yourself who stands to gain? If Zarkosy can do a favor for the American criminal world, then the Washington criminal crowd can easily return the favor and set the stage for getting set up, arrested and thrown in jail with no bail because of fear of flight.

This in the end gets everyone what they want except for the IMF Chief who loses his campaign election career and faces sexual assault criminal charges and or prison. Game over will have only been achieved by the whole team of players in the same game.

I hope it serves as food for thought because although I accept that the IMF Chief was a sexual deviant, knowledge of that mind set could be exactly what they wanted to use against him and so in my mind if they can use MKULTRA to get someone to commit murder, then it can be used to get someone to commit a crime of this nature while giving the appearance that it was just some rich elitist thinking he could have his way sexually with a hotel maid and then boldly skip town as if he were untouchable by anyone.

This is my point and my observation of matters. I offer it only as food for thought and nothing more.

Originally posted by Stringycheeseman
I don't keep up with the IMF, but I am seeing many articles on him that normally for someone of that prestige would be buried under tons of other news stories. Did he do something to stand in the way? Or have they been toying with other countries money so much that they had to get him out?

They seem to be tearing him up pretty good. Like a wounded fish in an ocean of sharks.

There could be a number of reasons why he was taken down.

First thing to look at is where he was at: New York City.

Seven of the ten wealthiest banks in the US are located there, JP Morgan Chase being the top bank in NYC. Multi billionaire Mayor Bloomberg has friends at Goldman Sachs, another one of the top ten.

Nothing of this magnitude would have been allowed without their knowledge and approval.

Another thing to look at is who owns most of the shares in the IMF, which is the US government, and also who owns most of US government securities: the US Federal Reserve.

Those Big Seven banks in NYC are the ones who own the New York Federal Reserve Bank.

Were talking about one of the most powerful consortiums/syndicates on earth, based out of New York City and they just "allowed" the head of the IMF to be arrested and taken into custody and put him at Riker's Island, with no bail?

Even Bernie Madoff didn't get this kind of treatment.

Some serious business is going down, especially if the US tries to put one of their own as head of the IMF, which would be a huge slap in the face to the EU.

The EU is already in billions of dollars of debt to the IMF, $20 billion more just this week. With an American at the helm of the IMF and the US already having 400,000 votes in the IMF, I can't imagine Europe being very comfortable. There are already rumors of potential EU member secession over the IMF bailouts and austerity packages. If the PIIGS nations secede from the EU in a domino effect, it could cause the EU and the Euro to collapse.

Who would benefit the most from the collapse of the EU, the Euro, while smothering Europe once again with hundreds of billions of dollars of debt?

reply to post by MaxBlack

It is known that his diplomatic status was cancelled or revoked prior to coming to NYC by the State Dept.

Source, please. My understanding of the situation is that he only has diplomatic immunity if he is acting on official business for the IMF. Traditionally, this means he can park illegally if he is attending a meeting. Crimes like sexual assault are not generally covered by diplomatic immunity in any event; a country's consular corps will usually limit itself to providing legal assistance unless the charges are clearly contrived or the potential punishment unusually draconian.

Originally posted by DJW001
reply to post by MaxBlack

 

It is known that his diplomatic status was cancelled or revoked prior to coming to NYC by the State Dept.

Source, please. My understanding of the situation is that he only has diplomatic immunity if he is acting on official business for the IMF. Traditionally, this means he can park illegally if he is attending a meeting. Crimes like sexual assault are not generally covered by diplomatic immunity in any event; a country's consular corps will usually limit itself to providing legal assistance unless the charges are clearly contrived or the potential punishment unusually draconian.

My understanding is the same as yours, but actually diplomatic immunity covers anything, with diplomatic immunity they could not even arrest him, also beggars the question, why did he do it in NY why didn't he do it in Washington where he could of done what he liked without any risk of prosecution? None of this makes sense, he has been silenced, the way it has been done is quite ruthless, perhaps with a secondary motive to warn others.

reply to post by MikeboydUS
A coup within the IMF? sounds likely they remove and discredit Strauss-Khan, then since the USG is the principle shareholder they can install a puppet.I think you are onto something MikeboydUS.What better way to stop the decline of the USD then by insuring that the IMF will make sure the greenback remains the worlds reserve currency and if the PIIGS leave the government can spin it as a case of those "ungrateful Europeans." being anti-American.

Service to self entities are always restructuring their hierarchies. It's in their very nature. Always a willing entity pawing for the next rung in the ladder.