Leonid Elenin Says its a Hoax

reply to post by InvisibleAlbatross

Do any of us really know what a Russian university id/pass looks like? Yes it looks crappy, but it doesn't mean it's fake. It just means the university doesn't bother making it look ultra-fancy.

Here are some typical membership cards for Russian professional organizations:

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This is for the prestigious Union of Russian Writers.

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This is for "The Association of Radio Graduates," University of Sebastopol.

Note that in the first example, the information is filled in by hand, and that a stamp is place on the photo in such a way that the photo cannot be replaced (even if it was glued on crooked!) The style of these cards is similar to the wallet style ID's used by the old Communist Party.

www.theufoinquirer.com...

Beginning of Planet X debate, I realized that if I could prove Leonid Elenin to be a code name, I'd have the Smoking Gun. I was not able to prove this, and since of late the comet is visible to astronomers around the world in telescopes, I'm not concerned. I think there might be a real Planet X lurking out there, which might be a threat way down the road. As is true for other comets and asteroids. This may be the topic NASA and other astronomers are uncomfortable talking about.

Reasons for my initial suspicions of Elenin:
1. Translation of his name, obviously! Leonid (meteor shower) ELE (extinction level event) and Nin (lady Sumerian god/planet)
2. He only started using his English name upon comet discovery, when by obscurer Russian name before
3. Internet traces go back to 2007, tying him to various astronomy institutions/studies/articles, but it wasn't until a few months prior to comet discovery that his blog was created
4. There are only two pictures of him on Internet, besides this latest video, even though he's recently come out of shell and talks to everyone who address him on Facebook/his blog/etc. I have an additional one of him and his daughter, which I got through one of his FB buddies, however.
5. He would not answer - and still hasn't answered - why his parents named him Leonid, etc, considering he grew up to be an astronomer!

Reasons I think he's a legit guy and no government cover:
1. He has been incredibly open with people on Facebook and his blog, and while it took some time, he has finally provided a current video interview.
2. There are at least three individual pictures of him that I've seen (confirmed), as well as many online mentions that give him credibility...like he commented on astronomy forums and studies well before comet discovery.
3. He has not gone to any trouble to "debunk" the theory, but has reacted as a normal person would - curious about theory, etc...even posting the odd alignments in one blog post!
4. If NASA were to create this personality, they didn't do a great job. The only reasons I feel we're suspicious of Elenin is because he just happens to be a private guy. NASA could have made him more clearly a public person from get go, while still maintaining that guy's code name.
5. THERE ARE SO MANY LEONID ELENINS. www.facebook.com... If you translate the name to Russian and then search Russian Leonid Elenins, you'll find a lot of matches. Regardless, "Leonid" is a name that's used and "Elenin" is a very common name.

As well, I've talked to LOADS of his cohorts from Facebook. They say he's real and many known of him from before 2010. However, they only work with him remotely (yes another suspicious thing, but not a big deal alongside other evidence)

Originally posted by CharterZZ
Its the truth, some people just like to fantasise about these things because they have nothing better to do.

I know right? The human condition is such a b****......

Really?

reply to post by sepermeru

Well hold on here, what makes you so sure? I don't believe in Nibiru or whatever, and I can't say it's not the same guy. But I also can't say for sure it is the same guy. You just can't tell either way from those images. Could be him, could be another chubby white guy with similar hair.

That's fine, i'm not the one asking you to believe it is him or it isn't. To my eyes, it's the same dude, and posting more and more images just solidifies that for me. I do find it interesting that the OP used a frame with a bad angle and text over the guys face, when there are other frames with much more clear images, which show it's the same guy.

And it's funny because I have various photo ID's I've kept over the years and not one of them looks the same, each picture could be a totally different person. BUT..... if you pay close attention, certain facial features stick out, much like this guy.

what a waste of a thread in all honesty, and keeping with the honesty, it doesn't really matter, everything about this elenin is garbage that a select group here are desperate to keep on the hot topics page.

Baseless claims about the comet? Check
Character assassination against the guy who found it? Check

It's awesome, so he might not be real? or this guy is an impostor? We can't trust what he says? Ok, so everything he says is questionable right? Except for when he says he found this comet and it's coming, that part is true, but anything he says that goes against the moronic doomsaying BS people here are spreading, well it's disinfo.

I used to think most of the people here were coming at this stuff with good intentions. I'm honestly beginning to question this now.

All this nonesense from Old man kookie about this being 2 different people is sad. I've got photo's of myself taken the same year with or without facial hair that look like I could be two different people easy. Looks like the same guy to me. I swear, some of you create conspiracies out of thin air.

See, I would open my own restaurant and call it Little Ali-Chick-En, or "Chickens in Space", or even better. . ."Poulet d'Espace"! that way it sounds fancy!

The off course we'd have the chicken as a main dish, of which would consist of many, many recipes. Yet, for appetizers. . ..anyway you get the pictures.

Why don't these guys just get this think going. There commercials could have some kids shoveling snow and finding some coupons!

It would be awesome!!!!!

Get the MTV people on the phone. . . I smell a new series!!!

Originally posted by OldCorp
His hair is parted differently, his freckles are gone, he doesn't have the "rough" look the first guy has, he doesn't have as pronounced a crease at the bridge of his nose; and that's just off the top of my head.

Surely someone here has the facial recognition software the feds use to measure the different prominences on the face...

I'm not sure about anyone else but I don't tend to look exactly the same every single day. I may have short hair, long hair, shaved, beard, goatee, shaved, etc..

Now I saw a picture of a bald guy without a hat on, no shirt, aiming a bow and I could swear it looks nothing like your avatar.

I guess with all the differences, he isn't you!

OldCorp - you agressively teased you rcomet elenin investigation video, and did not deliver - it was promised probably like what, a MONTH ago?

You still won't post it.

Make up excuses that contradict past excuses.

But then go to trouble to try to prove this picture of Elenin is a different guy ?? Wouldn't your time be better spent posting the legit video investigation?

Leonid Elenin is not a real person.

All I noticed is in that ID you could make out Leonid Elenin, what I found funny about that is if the ID is Russian in nature, wouldn't his name as it appears in Russian be on in and not Leonid Elenin?

reply to post by Helious

All I noticed is in that ID you could make out Leonid Elenin, what I found funny about that is if the ID is Russian in nature, wouldn't his name as it appears in Russian be on in and not Leonid Elenin?

Really? Where do you see "Leonid Elenin" in Roman lettering? I see "Elenin/Leonid" in Cyrillic cursive on two successive lines.

Elenin went by his Russian name before the blog set up. He is not searchable by "Leonid Elenin" until that blog. Just FYI.

I do think he's a legit guy and not a cover, though. : )

Originally posted by OldCorp
I don't know who that guy is, but it is NOT the same "Leonid Elenin" that "discovered" the "comet!"

I call BULL[SNIP]!

I'll put up side by side pics in a minute.

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Looks like the same guy to me, taken with two different cameras at two different times.

reply to post by OldCorp


Looks like Leonardo DiCaprio with some extra luggage.

Why cover up the damn thing? to prevent mass panic? if the thing effects the earth in some way we're screwed no matter what. so why bother? its not like the average joe next door would know where your secret space vehicle to Alpha Centari is located

reply to post by TIMEZaCHANGIN


I think it's a hoax. Come on

He's probably tired of people claiming that he's fake and/or a liar or some sort. He just found a small comet lol.

yes I mean I actually bought that Leonid Elenin could be code name...only because if there really was some ELE coming our way that NASA knew about it, they wouldn't be totally honest, so anything's possible about how they might package and communicate info...

However, if NASA really intended to code name the comet, they didn't do a great job. They could have chosen a name way more original (Elenin is a COMMON last name, and there are many Leonids...and might even be many Leonid Elenins)

Originally posted by Serizawa
reply to post by OldCorp

 

Looks like Leonardo DiCaprio with some extra luggage.

Well, if you knew that the world is going to end soon anyway – wouldn't you eat a few extra cookies? :-)

reply to post by OldCorp


I think you have some egg on your face. I know when you feel strongly on a subject you can be blinded by the facts sometimes.

Also I doubt anyone on here really cares whether your mind is changed, its not our duty to supply you with evidence that the evidence is factual. It is your job to prove to "us" that the evidence is not factual. Not that you care to do that either, i'm just sayin'.

I guess we just wait to see if the person you asked agrees with you or disagrees with you huh.....?