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Originally posted by ellieN
Originally posted by kettlebellysmith
reply to post by itsthetooth
You miss the point. Something or someone had to create the aliens. Hence the First Cause. It shoots your entire theory out of the water.
Here I am quoting you again!!! And again you are right in my thinking anyway. SOMETHING had to CAUSE the Spark of Life and sentience in these beings also. Whether we are a messed up product of Aliens experimenting or a direct cause from the Creator, the fact is..an intelligence of such superior knowledge is undeniable in my opinion. An intelligence that we can not possibly fathom. And also in my opinion...Something that can do all of this has the ability to make everything right in the end...So the Creator is or the Cause is.edit on 16-5-2011 by ellieN because: eliminated a word
Originally posted by Chrisfishenstein
And yet again I am lured in by a freaking "it's official" TAG!!! Stop doing this people with nothing but personal insight!!!!
Originally posted by itsthetooth
Originally posted by DragonriderGal
Originally posted by itsthetooth
I have to be honest to let everyone know that the first thing I listen to is common sense. When things don't jive, I look at that.
Just like the purpose of the ark of the covinent. It's proof right in the bible that GOD CANT hear your thoughts and prayers. It's not an issue of wanting to debunk current beliefs, its an issue of getting to the truth.
The 'ark' is actually one of the few pieces of advanced technology that the Jue-sah were allowed to use in the contract they have with humanity. Otherwise, they can't use it until we 'invent' it.. the tesla stuff really allowed them to use their most advanced technology now. But the ark was allowed because it could be considered a 'holy' artifact that wouldn't require any explanation other than 'god makes it work', because that is where they keep their 'holy' writings. Those 'writings' now, in reality, contains all the information they can squeeze into it (albeit in code), to help them be more successful their next time thru the cycle in dealing with humanity. That's why their priests study it so diligently. They're looking for what's going to happen and when so they can plan their way more successfully thru it.
I can see they've done this loop at least 3 other times, maybe 4. It's kinda like that ST: TNG episode where the enterprise was caught in this rift in the time/space continuum where they'd come out of the rift and run into another ship.. and then the loop would start again. Like I've said, Roddenberry was telling us things about the metaphysical level of stuff, but he put it into a bit more of a palatable form. But a lot of what he tells stories about, like the wormhole where there is no time, is actually aspects of the spirit realm. You get far enough out from the experience of being in a body, and time pretty much stops and all time is 'now'. That is the level where our highest self hangs out.
edit on 17-5-2011 by DragonriderGal because: Spelling
So where exactly can I reference the connection between god and Jue-sah ?????????
Originally posted by DragonriderGal
Originally posted by itsthetooth
Originally posted by DragonriderGal
Originally posted by itsthetooth
I have to be honest to let everyone know that the first thing I listen to is common sense. When things don't jive, I look at that.
Just like the purpose of the ark of the covinent. It's proof right in the bible that GOD CANT hear your thoughts and prayers. It's not an issue of wanting to debunk current beliefs, its an issue of getting to the truth.
The 'ark' is actually one of the few pieces of advanced technology that the Jue-sah were allowed to use in the contract they have with humanity. Otherwise, they can't use it until we 'invent' it.. the tesla stuff really allowed them to use their most advanced technology now. But the ark was allowed because it could be considered a 'holy' artifact that wouldn't require any explanation other than 'god makes it work', because that is where they keep their 'holy' writings. Those 'writings' now, in reality, contains all the information they can squeeze into it (albeit in code), to help them be more successful their next time thru the cycle in dealing with humanity. That's why their priests study it so diligently. They're looking for what's going to happen and when so they can plan their way more successfully thru it.
I can see they've done this loop at least 3 other times, maybe 4. It's kinda like that ST: TNG episode where the enterprise was caught in this rift in the time/space continuum where they'd come out of the rift and run into another ship.. and then the loop would start again. Like I've said, Roddenberry was telling us things about the metaphysical level of stuff, but he put it into a bit more of a palatable form. But a lot of what he tells stories about, like the wormhole where there is no time, is actually aspects of the spirit realm. You get far enough out from the experience of being in a body, and time pretty much stops and all time is 'now'. That is the level where our highest self hangs out.
edit on 17-5-2011 by DragonriderGal because: Spelling
So where exactly can I reference the connection between god and Jue-sah ?????????
You'll never find any reference to any of this stuff in the physical documents left lying around by anybody, current or ancient. That's why they've been manipulating people to only trust 'scientific' proof or hard evidence, and never ever trust your gut. They don't want anybody to even consider that their 'hunch' might be a valid source of 'proof' that the Jue-sah are here and mucking with us, and have been since the beginning.
So if you do trust your gut---if any of this 'feels' right--- that is the only proof you'll ever have until we make enlightenment. A true conspiracy won't leave any traces lying around. You ought to know that. But that sense of 'knowingness' that they've tried so hard to discourage in us is the only proof anyone would ever need, if they were able to trust themselves, and the Jue-sah know that.
Like I was telling Sundowner, your inner self will guide you. Listen to that, first and foremost. It's pretty much spot on. Make sure, however, you aren't listening to some alien whispering telepathically into your brain. They can and will do that. Make sure you ask for protection from your highest self (it'll do the job even if you ask 'god' to protect you, cuz that is one of the main things it is there to do), and even from the archangels (E-l*th). They will help on the spirit realm far more quickly than in the physical plane since the Jue-sah/human racial unconscious contract is still in effect which they honor. But their un-involvement isn't required on the spirit realm level.
Anyway, this post is a bit less polished than I like, but I'll answer more tomorrow... bed time now.edit on 18-5-2011 by DragonriderGal because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by ellieN
Well actually ..I don't think the whole idea of another race of beings from space messing humans up is far off at all. Since Adam and Eve were not obedient to the point of total submissiveness in the Garden. (laboratory of a sort setting) And since we are having to fill in the blanks, that have been deleted and work from our own thought processing of what we are able to do, this will take awhile to figure out.
I do believe there is a supreme Creator or Cause. Who knows what the original plan of "Trevor" really was suppose to be....before interference stepped in.
If some one did do this to us...then it means that once a plan of action is put into motion by the creator- cause then that model is a forward process that takes whatever turn of events that comes into it without interference from the Creator. A case of what-ever-will-be-will-be and lets see what turns up.
Added to--The end result just maybe..what was suppose to be????edit on 18-5-2011 by ellieN because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by itsthetooth
Originally posted by Chrisfishenstein
And yet again I am lured in by a freaking "it's official" TAG!!! Stop doing this people with nothing but personal insight!!!!
Calling obvious writing in the bible and DNA findings insight is like saying you wouldn't believe the results when they tell you who your kids are.
I hate to punish the guilty here people but to many I have confronted about this seem to be hypocrites about DNA. I'm sorry, its not a theory, its fact. You can't change it, you can't persuade it, and you can't fake it. Sorry, your wrong.
Originally posted by Slipdoggety
reply to post by itsthetooth
Eekiel does not state that God is an Alien. I have read the bible , many times and know you are just interpreting it how you want to. Of course you could make it seem like God were an Alien if you change all the symbology to suit Aliens.
Originally posted by nightbringr
Originally posted by itsthetooth
Originally posted by Chrisfishenstein
And yet again I am lured in by a freaking "it's official" TAG!!! Stop doing this people with nothing but personal insight!!!!
Calling obvious writing in the bible and DNA findings insight is like saying you wouldn't believe the results when they tell you who your kids are.
I hate to punish the guilty here people but to many I have confronted about this seem to be hypocrites about DNA. I'm sorry, its not a theory, its fact. You can't change it, you can't persuade it, and you can't fake it. Sorry, your wrong.
While this is true, you must also accept the flipside of this arguement.
You claimed that human life was deposited here when life already existed, claiming we are foreign to this planet. Why then does our DNA match all other living animals on this planet so closely? That would seem to prove that yes, in some very distant past we were related and evolved differently than one another.
You can't have it both ways.
Originally posted by itsthetooth
Because he appears to be more of a mad scientist and appears to play with DNA, I instantly got a different picture of what happened.
Originally posted by itsthetooth
Originally posted by DragonriderGal
You'll never find any reference to any of this stuff in the physical documents left lying around by anybody, current or ancient. That's why they've been manipulating people to only trust 'scientific' proof or hard evidence, and never ever trust your gut. They don't want anybody to even consider that their 'hunch' might be a valid source of 'proof' that the Jue-sah are here and mucking with us, and have been since the beginning.
So if you do trust your gut---if any of this 'feels' right--- that is the only proof you'll ever have until we make enlightenment. A true conspiracy won't leave any traces lying around. You ought to know that. But that sense of 'knowingness' that they've tried so hard to discourage in us is the only proof anyone would ever need, if they were able to trust themselves, and the Jue-sah know that.
Like I was telling Sundowner, your inner self will guide you. Listen to that, first and foremost. It's pretty much spot on. Make sure, however, you aren't listening to some alien whispering telepathically into your brain. They can and will do that. Make sure you ask for protection from your highest self (it'll do the job even if you ask 'god' to protect you, cuz that is one of the main things it is there to do), and even from the archangels (E-l*th). They will help on the spirit realm far more quickly than in the physical plane since the Jue-sah/human racial unconscious contract is still in effect which they honor. But their un-involvement isn't required on the spirit realm level.
Anyway, this post is a bit less polished than I like, but I'll answer more tomorrow... bed time now.edit on 18-5-2011 by DragonriderGal because: (no reason given)
Well if the Jue-sah were trying to throw people off, they did a poor job cause I still figured it out. However not everyone understands so there could be some truth in that.
Originally posted by itsthetooth
I'm sorry but our DNA proves you wrong. We were not pure upon setting foot on earth. Deceit existed on his side from the beginning. Not to mention that he used the alien mind controlling persuasion to make people belive he was good, and our creator. It's powerful, I can't disrespect people for falling for it, I also can't disrespect anyone for continuing to believe in it as that was also part of the plan.
Now I'm not saying by any mean that I'm smarter than you, but another thing he did was make us dumb and weak, so that we would fall for it. Again it's been proven in our tests of the DNA. Use some common sense when you look at this. There are just a few dozen to many contradictions and unacceptable things on his part. He's omni potent. Right, thats why he made us, and had a problem controlling us, he lost his omni potency. Your choice, hes either not our creator, or a very #ty one that only screwed up on us and none of the other life. Figure it out man.
Originally posted by itsthetooth
Originally posted by DragonriderGal
Hum... WOW, like in "wow, that explains it" or like in "Wow, that's totally crazy!"
I can see how bizzar this whole thing sounds, but you guys have to realize that my first steps in this was my 3 decades of study of reports about other life that visits. Honestly, something wasn't adding up. Why they have all the technology and special powers, why Jesus was so incredible, why the pattern of life stopped with us. We were the oddball all along. We are tainted you guys, and we need to fix that DNA. I would be the fist to step up too.