It's official, GOD was a space alien, and NOT our real creator

Originally posted by itsthetooth
Correct again. Zacaria sitchin says we were converted into drones / slaves for mining gold for another race. I'm told the time line fits, and there is multiple scripts from several areas to back it up. Real nice huh.

Nah, the greys are MUCH better designers than that. IF they'd been paid to create us for that purpose, we'd have been much shorter with long strong arms with all the bugs worked out. But since the greys were using us themselves, they needed us to be able to do the stuff their worker greys did, none of which involved mucking around underground digging for stuff.

And of course the Jue-sah really don't want us to know that we weren't originally slaves, since they want us to be their slaves, so it figures they'd allow that version of 'history' to be the one put forward if someone just wouldn't believe in the traditional biblical origins thing, or the 'scientific' version of 'evolution'.

Originally posted by itsthetooth
I always thought of different religions as our many attempts in trying to understand. Of course in that desperation, the essence of truth went out the window with it. This is why I'm so passionate in my belief, I think we got screwed, and to many things prove it. All the way down to our DNA.

They've wanted us to believe that these religions are just us groping to understand the 'ununderstandable'. Actually it is quite easy to understand if you let yourself listen to your higher self, via your connection to the racial unconscious.

And yes, the Jue-sah have been screwing us over for millenia.. but our racial unconscious saw this path was necessary despite it being desperately unpleasent and overwhelmingly brutal at times. We, humanity, needed to keep off of our hinnies and keep growing. And pain is a great motivator. We've been learning and growing and becoming more powerful because we've needed to learn how to protect ourselves.

While it is sad some of our greatest discoveries have been created to serve us in a war, the fact never the less remains that we have discovered more than any other known species; plus we've learned to be far more versatile and adaptable than any other alien species simply to survive the heavy, brutal hand of the Jue-sah. Basically it's been on-the-job training with live fire.

But despite what the Jue-sah-owned media is telling you, a lot of humans are feeling the rising energy and are getting ready to begin making the shift into full enlightenment, if for no other reason than to get these damn Jue-sah off our back! Motivation in it's purest form.

Originally posted by itsthetooth

Originally posted by bhornbuckle75

Originally posted by itsthetooth

Originally posted by bhornbuckle75
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You know what explains all of this FAR better than Aliens or God? Natural Evolution...why is it you didn't even consider that, but are debating two speculative mythologies instead?

Because it means there are lies in the bible and I don't think calling that many people liars is fair. I stand by the rule that people don't lie, the person lies.

I don't think I catch your meaning here.....'people don't lie, the person lies'. People are just a group of 'persons'. I'm not saying you don't have a valid point...I'm only saying I genuinely don't understand the point you are trying to make, or furthermore, how it relates to my original comment...could you clarify what you are suggesting? Thanks.

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I'm saying there is truth in the bible because there are to many involved.

I'm not quite sure I see your logic....every religion involves lots of people....so are you suggesting that all religions are equally true? ....Now I can sympathize with the idea that all religions may contain some elements of truth...but then again I think few would deny that ....But we are talking about creation myths....if your trying to say that the Bible's creation myths are true simply because there were a lot of people involved in the telling of them, then what about the creation myths of other cultures...how can you deny their truth by your own reasoning? What about when the stories of 'many' conflict? two cultures with two creation myths? Why would you think one is true, and not the other? Why do you accept that 'many' people don't lie in one instance, yet then (I'm assuming) you would say that 'many' people DO lie when it conflicts with the first? After all....logically if you say one group is not lying, then you are saying the other groups are! Your reasoning behind it being that 'many' people could not be involved with such a lie, then doesn't hold much water I'm afraid.

Originally posted by itsthetooth
For some reason though, I don't think we have a connection any longer. Maybe its because god has never appeared in a hell of a long time.

We didn't have a connection to 'god', you mean? We always are connected to the 'god' energy of the racial unconscious; most of us just can't tell because we've blocked off our awareness of our connection to it. We always have our highest selves in there, and it advocates for us all the time.

And the overarching sentience advocates for humanity with the overarching sentience of the universe.. or the universal consciousness if you will. And we are all one energy so we are 'god' in that sense.

As for 'god' appearing.. that would be tricky. Probably the closest you'll get is talking to the old indian fellow on a shaman journey, although he told me he appears to each individual as they expect. But even still, while he speaks for the over arching sentience, he isn't it. And like I said, the universal consciousness speaking to us would be like us trying to talk to a sub atomic particle. It would be very difficult to understand even if one could discern the communication attempt was being made.

I think you tie yourself up by trying to make 'god' be something tangible and just a single entity. It isn't. It is always the compilation of many individiual spirits who've become like-minded enough to speak with one voice.

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i just don't get what i said that has anything to do with your reply. I didn't say anything about DNA and what I think about it....for one i am not gonna sit on here and argue with people over my own views. Are you suggesting that I am a lonely person? Did i take your words out of context? Idk... i tend to not post my exact thoughts anymore on here...like i said

There is a creater WHOMEVER it is and all we need is Love... if anyone has to argue with that i think they have some Bigger issues at hand!

Originally posted by Sundowner

Huh, you say this and then you go off into a tirade about how a certain alien race is here, etc, etc and state that as blatant fact? I'm not trying to be rude here, but you don't have-any-evidence of this claim. At all. Maybe antecedence evidence.

Wow, that was hardly a tirade, but hey, believe what you will, eh?

And really. Evidence??? What exactly would constitute that 'evidence'?? I should have an elf come visit you or something????? I'm not on that good a terms with any alien, sorry. Besides, when you deal with spiritual stuff, there isn't going to be any proof of it; the Jue-sah make sure of that.

I talk about what I see in the human racial unconscious. That's all. I know it hasn't been alter in any way, because the Jue-sah, being not human, can't get in there. Oh their human flunkies can, but they don't have any power to act there, since they are usually so anti-human that the overarching sentience puts the kibosh on anything they might try. But the most they could do would be hide memories, perhaps. And from what I can see, as long as the person is active be it thru being actually alive or on their way thru to the next life, their memories are untouchable.

I am guessing if you were to access the racial unconscious, you would see very similar things to what I see. And it is for you to decide, using your inner self as a guide, as to whether or not what I say is the 'truth' for you. Usually a 'truth' will create some kind of reaction in your body. For me it is like a huge silent gong, when I hear something that is 'true'; others report getting goosebumps or feeling a chill. There are other ways it manifests of course, and the trick is to learn what your own response to it is.

That should be your first and best method for discerning 'truth', not some funky easily manipulated 'evidence'. Even the Jue-sah know that if we don't feel any 'truth' in something, they can't get us to buy into it. So they always throw in a tiny bit of truth so we'll swallow the whole thing unquestioningly. Too many of us humans aren't even aware of this level, and so are easily fooled by just that tiny bit.

Originally posted by itsthetooth

Originally posted by coquine
Well, I've always found the alien hypothesis interesting, and surely more probable than the creationist one, but heck, is it not possible on this site to edit your title??? I feel a bit like I was tricked into clicking on this with the "It's Official" claim! Maybe you could change it to "My Personal Opinion" or something??

Well I'm mixed on it. I'm sold on the direction that seems to be backed up by compounded things. I used a high standard of acceptance when looking at things. I stopped looking because each time I open up a new page of the bible, its just one more thing that proves I'm right. I'm not exaggerating. I got to a point where I just stopped.

Yeah, but official means that it has been accepted and verified by the majority of the collectives authorities. You have a long way to go before you get to having this become official.

Originally posted by itsthetooth

our inability to understand these things stems from god putting us in the dumb down factor.
If you were with friends tomorrow, and looked up in the sky, and saw a space ship, would you get your friend to look. Would you feel embarrassed if he wasn't there to see it, but you were trying to convince him you saw it. We are in bad shape people.

Don't involve 'god' in what the Jue-sah are doing. It is them trying to dumb us down so they can control us more easily. If we let them, who have we to blame but ourselves???

And any friend of mine would probably be the first one to see it and tell me to look up! *lol* We aren't in as bad of shape as you might believe though.. again it is the Jue-sah, manipulating the news and only covering things that they think will make us feel hopeless and despairing. They love to watch us suffer, and they're hoping if they can get enough of us to believe their humongous lies, we will help them manifest them into reality.

hello ItsDaTruth very interesting conclusions youve come to. very similar to my own, based on years of telepathic combat with those viperous aliens (spirits) that invariably call themselves just "god" when they appear within human consciousness. "they" do not like being argued with, and can become very violent in covert ways. in summary 20% of them are "good", and 80% of them collossal dominating egos prepared to sink to evil. im not talking about traditional "devils", but about the supposedly good "gods"/administrators OF the devils. in other words one hardly needs a "devil" to explain the state of earth at all, only a bunch of half-evil mal-administrators can explain the 80%. unfortunately the good 20% are very difficult to find, so in general dont bother looking for "gods" at all, just get on with your own common-sense ideas about what to do with life. as the famous professor dawkins rightly said, jehovah seems closer to a butchering psychopath than any "loving creator". i went up hitlers control tower near salzberg and stood thinking IF any god/spirit had WANTED to they could very easily have killed him (heart attack / trip him over the edge etc), but "god" did NOT stop hitler SO either 1. "he" doesnt exist 2. he is not "powerful" after all (maybe was once but scurried back to other planet long ago) 3. he /"they" thought it CONVENIENT if humans left to kill each other by the million in the joke of "free will". why ? because the aliens /"god" were the original CAUSE of evil, not (originally) "the" devil. god in effect OWES each human (say) 1000000$ but multiply that by 7trillion souls, and the "karmic" DEBT becomes impossible for the gods /"god" to pay, SO "he" /they devised their scheme of great deception (SGD, kamanism), to try make humans think "it was all your own fault due to being sinners". evil on a collossal scale, "in the name" of proclaimed "perfect love". anyway the BOTTOM LINE, is that even if you conclude /decide god was /is a maniac, so what ? we cant stop him/it, and still have to survive /make a living. many top cia thought bush was a maniac determined to bomb iraq, but they eventually all decided to shutup to protect their families etc. we just have to all hope that the 20% good gods (mostly female) will soon get control of the evil (Mostly male) ones. kaman.

Originally posted by itsthetooth
I don't remember where I got the 4 mill, I'm comfortable believing it. I have studied reports for all my life, its more than possible. The 10% theory is only a small clue to a much larger picture. I like how the pineal gland is dormant and in my opinion looks like a gland that somehow connects the cerebral cortex with the cerebellum. In my observation it looks like some type of switch or hyper connection device. Its been overlooked because of its size which is sad because Not only missing the DNA switches render it useless but it could be whats bottle necking our brain capacity. No I have looked at about 10,000.

The pineal gland is indeed a fascinating organ, especially when we consider speculation that it may secrete '___'. In studies on '___', subjects have sometimes reported experiences one might consider analogous to the abduction phenomenon:

Several subjects also reported contact with 'other beings', alien like, insectoid or reptilian in nature, in highly advanced technological environments[11] where the subjects were 'carried', 'probed', 'tested', 'manipulated', 'dismembered', 'taught', 'loved' and even 'raped' by these 'beings'

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While we know a little about what the pineal does (melatonin secretion, etc.) its activity is poorly understood.

I will respect and defer to your belief re: 4 million abduction cases. But what of my question pertaining to the mythologies and cosmologies dating to long before those recorded in the Dead Sea Scrolls (the source for Genesis)?

Thanks again.

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That is the craziest logic I have ever read.

Or the most logical craziness.

Either way I'm stuck between incredibly profound or incredibly insane.

Awesome read and definitely some sense in there.

Something being "official" obviously validates it and makes it seem more true? It is also "official" that Bin Laden got shot by Navy Seals and burried at sea.

Originally posted by marriah3330
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Who are the jue-sah and blues you talk about? Can you please elaborate on this?

Marriah

They are two of the alien races that have been involved in the development of the earth situation as it stands now.

The Jue-sah, when they end up in human bodies are usually 'jews'. The Blues, when they end up in human bodies are usually arabs. And the two are mortal enemies, dating from so far back, neither one of them actually remembers why. My sense of it is that the Jue-sah, not the sharpest tools in the shed, somehow managed to get one over on the Blues (They are the aliens calling themselves the Pleadians, I think, but I haven't gotten an actual name for them yet) who have sworn to get revenge to the level of 'not satisfied until every last Jue-sah is dead'.

Neither group is very nice, and I wouldn't want either of them as my overlords. Like I've been saying, the Jue-sah were the equivalent of the neighborhood rat catcher, and the greys hired them to come here and manage their humans since they really couldn't. Also, part of the Jue-sah's payment was that the greys would give over ownership of their humans when they got their problem figured out. They had NO idea they were handing over a whole species to this bunch of ne'er do wells.

I do discuss more about the Jue-sah in previous posts and so ask that you go read those, versus me having to rewrite the information yet again. You can also go to several of my own threads where I go into more detail about all of this.

The blues, I haven't said much about though. They are only here because they have the Jue-sah cornered. Like a monkey with it's hand around the shiny trinket inside the narrow-necked jar, the Jue-sah won't let go of the idea of owning us and getting off this planet and away from the Blues. So the blues are wrecking as much havoc as they can with the world domination (enslavement of humanity) plans of the Jue-sah. It is also part of why I'm not as worried about whether or not the Jue-sah will fail in their take over attempt. The Blues are going to be nipping at their heels the whole time, crippling them and their plans as much as possible.

Obama, for example, is one of theirs. He is loyal to the Arabs (the 'black' half of his blood line is actually more arab than black). His other half is from the purest illuminati lines and so the Jue-sah thought he was one of theirs and controllable. They are some of the worst bigots though. They never actually intended to let him serve long as president. They were planning to assassinate him to trigger country wide rioting that would justify them declaring martial law. Think Rodney King/LA riots but on a national scale. But he knew that and so protects himself well. He doesn't have any CIA or Secret service in his close personal body guard, I am quite sure.

But don't think for a minute that the blues are our 'friends' simply because we have a common enemy. They don't like us very well, and have their own plans for enslaving as many of us as possible before the E-l*th get here. They are the ones behind all the stories some 'psychics' are getting about how the world is coming to a horrible end and everybody is going to be killed. They're trying to convince us that they are here to 'rescue' us from this horrible fate if we'll just come on to their ships... So not a good idea, folks.

The E-l*th won't try to stop the blues from taking those humans (and their guardianship is why no other species has ever tried to take us over with 'advanced technology') because the foolish humans will voluntarily run to them out of fear. But really, there isn't going to be a mass destruction of the world.. it's all a story they're telling to get us to run into their evil clutches where they can put us to work for them, creating new and better weapons to whack the Jue-sah with. They know how creative we are, and are salivating at the thought of having us slaving away creating the things they want.

Was that enough of an elaboration on these alien species?

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This was a VERY fascinating read. Truly incredible, and well thought out! I'm just curious as to why our God would abduct us and put us here? (I'm not saying you are wrong, just curiosity). I'll def. show this to a few friends.

I'll admit, however, that I follow my own beliefs, but I'm very open-minded towards others. As stated, great read, possibly the best I've seen on this site.

I totally agree.

Please see most post for my input into this topic.

We are on the same page brother.

Is this amazing or what. Are we really part of alien. Could they come down and announce themselves soon. I hope so.

My input below
www.abovetopsecret.com...

I really appreciate your work and research on the matter. All the matters mentioned in the above work is splendid. If you could get to read Dr.Zecheria Sitchin's work then you will get most of your work pretty easily as well..

I do feel that what you have mentioned is a question which I never thought about, that there is a difference between a creator and God.
But if you as you said, the God is supposed to be the ET's who alter the DNA and modifies it in such a way to suit their needs.
So the next question being whose the Creator ? I remember a good un-explainable experiment which was taught to us in early schools - The double Slit experiment, where the light passes through and they understand that Light has life and it has the ability to alter the energy and some of the experiments done by various scientist passing lights and altering the DNA's producing lizards from Frog eggs, and almost a duck from hen eggs.
David Wilcock in one of the lectures said that just the light produces life.
So thats how animals and plants and men was created. And the Gods altered it to suit there needs.

Physical existence is in Human form but life exists in Soul form, completing journey after journey, finishing works one by one and coming to life to and fro from different planets to earth is the duty of our soul. In that case, your second point of from where Human's came to Earth will be also solved.

These are just my thoughts. As in Meditation and Transcendental yoga teachings they say about life after death and about past life and the farthest I could reach is about 200,000 yrs.

Anyways, Power of mind could not be underestimated. At this point- time travel as well as soul- astral travel is so possible and getting enlightened and finding answers to questions are such possible effortless things for Humans who activates their chakras and understand the real meaning of love in this "Age of Ascention" .

Great to meet you.
Raj
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I really appreciate your work and research on the matter. All the matters mentioned in the above work is splendid. If you could get to read Dr.Zecheria Sitchin's work then you will get most of your work pretty easily as well..

I do feel that what you have mentioned is a question which I never thought about, that there is a difference between a creator and God.
But if you as you said, the God is supposed to be the ET's who alter the DNA and modifies it in such a way to suit their needs.
So the next question being whose the Creator ? I remember a good un-explainable experiment which was taught to us in early schools - The double Slit experiment, where the light passes through and they understand that Light has life and it has the ability to alter the energy and some of the experiments done by various scientist passing lights and altering the DNA's producing lizards from Frog eggs, and almost a duck from hen eggs.
David Wilcock in one of the lectures said that just the light produces life.
So thats how animals and plants and men was created. And the Gods altered it to suit there needs.

Physical existence is in Human form but life exists in Soul form, completing journey after journey, finishing works one by one and coming to life to and fro from different planets to earth is the duty of our soul. In that case, your second point of from where Human's came to Earth will be also solved.

These are just my thoughts. As in Meditation and Transcendental yoga teachings they say about life after death and about past life and the farthest I could reach is about 200,000 yrs.

Anyways, Power of mind could not be underestimated. At this point- time travel as well as soul- astral travel is so possible and getting enlightened and finding answers to questions are such possible effortless things for Humans who activates their chakras and understand the real meaning of love in this "Age of Ascention" .

Great to meet you.
Raj
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Originally posted by MasterKaman
hello ItsDaTruth

very interesting conclusions youve come to. very similar to my own, based on years of telepathic combat with those viperous aliens (spirits) that invariably call themselves just "god" when they appear within human consciousness. "they" do not like being argued with, and can become very violent in covert ways. in summary 20% of them are "good", and 80% of them collossal dominating egos prepared to sink to evil. im not talking about traditional "devils", but about the supposedly good "gods"/administrators OF the devils. in other words one hardly needs a "devil" to explain the state of earth at all, only a bunch of half-evil mal-administrators can explain the 80%. unfortunately the good 20% are very difficult to find, so in general dont bother looking for "gods" at all, just get on with your own common-sense ideas about what to do with life. as the famous professor dawkins rightly said, jehovah seems closer to a butchering psychopath than any "loving creator". i went up hitlers control tower near salzberg and stood thinking IF any god/spirit had WANTED to they could very easily have killed him (heart attack / trip him over the edge etc), but "god" did NOT stop hitler SO either 1. "he" doesnt exist 2. he is not "powerful" after all (maybe was once but scurried back to other planet long ago) 3. he /"they" thought it CONVENIENT if humans left to kill each other by the million in the joke of "free will". why ? because the aliens /"god" were the original CAUSE of evil, not (originally) "the" devil. god in effect OWES each human (say) 1000000$ but multiply that by 7trillion souls, and the "karmic" DEBT becomes impossible for the gods /"god" to pay, SO "he" /they devised their scheme of great deception (SGD, kamanism), to try make humans think "it was all your own fault due to being sinners". evil on a collossal scale, "in the name" of proclaimed "perfect love". anyway the BOTTOM LINE, is that even if you conclude /decide god was /is a maniac, so what ? we cant stop him/it, and still have to survive /make a living. many top cia thought bush was a maniac determined to bomb iraq, but they eventually all decided to shutup to protect their families etc. we just have to all hope that the 20% good gods (mostly female) will soon get control of the evil (Mostly male) ones. kaman.

You're talking about the Jue-sah here. They've been running the religion scam for millenia; but they've had to keep from getting too carried away because the E-l*th have been watching. The E-l*th were the gods of rome and greece and scandinavia before their rescue ships arrived, but the ones who remained after the ships left began running under the guise of angels so they could still use their power but not get in the way of the Jue-sah's demand for no more alien intervention based on the contract our overarching sentience has with them. But that contract also holds the karma for whatever Jue-sah and their chosen flunkies do in abayence until the end of it, so yah, they've eluded their karma, and if they succeed in enslaving us, they'll never have to have it come due.

But they are some twisted sick puppies... they've gotten so angry with humanity making fools out of them, it's eating them alive. And they are increasing in their push to enslave us, since the contract ends in 2012, so the bad stuff is escalating. But we humans are going to be making full enlightenment with the attendant restoration of what should have been our natural psychic and energy working abilities, and the E-l*th are returning as per the book of revelations, which is really about them punishing the Jue-sah and their human flunkies for being such horrid and abusive manipulators, while in the process of digging them out of their hidy holes so our racial unconscious can send them back in time to do it again. It's their tribulation, not ours.

The only way the Jue-sah can really say they succeeded is to be able to say they've enslaved 80% or more of humanity. And they can only count the ones who are firm believers in whatever religion, or science or other limiting thought structure which trap the thinker into a non-aware state that was created by the Jue-sah. There are just too many of us for that to happen though, so they are going to try to convince the E-l*th and our over arching sentience that by taking over all the governments of the world, that should count as the 80% needed. It won't fly of course, but that is why they are trying so hard to break america right now.. they planned to use our armies to take over the rest of the world that they don't already own.

Sure the Jue-sah have been stockpiling and creating super weapons (you hear rumors about them) with the intention of using them against the e-l*th, and it will get messy for a while, but in the end, the Jue-sah will fail and this world will become a much better place. Our overarching sentience planned this journey for humanity out a long time ago, and everything's pretty much happened as per the plan.

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Firstly I should say that this is one of the very few articles that I have read even when I have realized that its TOO long.
Secondly, I am in total agreement with all what you are saying. Thank you for taking time to put it all together.
I, being a Hindu, know very little about Bible writings. In Hindu scriptures, a form of god exists, Hanuman, the monkey god. He forgot all his knowledge when he was young for some reason and was able to recollect only when other gods told him that he possessed such a knowledge. This is in sync with we forgetting what we know.

I also agree with the 'disabling' some of our abilities, which make us not realize and understand even simple (for other races) things about life and the universe. There is a particular DNA shape that we pray, which resembles two snakes spirally joined together. Don't know what it really means but there is something related to our DNA.

Yes, its also true that we have been here since very long long time. The Indian epics dates backs the existence of humans on earth to over millions of years and I am not in agreement with 'Theory of evolution by CD'. (My personal opinion). Interestingly, in those epics we can see very high end technology at work and now we are far from close to that level. What happened and why did it so happen, HE only knows.

And regarding having an arc on a mountain, yea 'God' should have been in close range. But, i believe that there is one dimension where space or distance is not a constraint. Don't remember exactly where, but I have read something saying, 2 particles traveling in different directions (in a particular dimension) and that are light years away, change direction at the same time, when one changes its direction. i.e., when one turns, the other also turns at the very same instant, as if they were traveling together. The omni presence of God also tells me that there may exist a similar or same dimension where you can see / listen everything happening in this universe as if it is happening out of your window.

I have been interested in learning such things, but unable to find any legitimate source. I believe there exists such a knowledge in the 4 Hindu vedas but i am not sure if any one is still alive with such an intelligence to understand and decode what is written in them. since the time i came to know about Billy Miers, I always wondered why he is not posing such questions to Quitzal and others and try to know 'Who we actually are and why we are here, why are we so dumb with no true knowledge' and why is he interested in knowing who is going to die tomorrow or what is going to happen to earth in 2012.

I am sorry, i am not able to frame all the 1001 points in an order but there are many such questions in my quest for knowledge. Wish someone enlightens me and makes me realize the real purpose of life.

Very detailed analysis. Thanks.