Why would ETs NOT be visiting Earth now?

Considering in all likelihood the Milky Way Galaxy alone has AT LEAST thousands of technologically intelligent races, why wouldn't they stop by the Earth? The odds are there are at least a few species of life within 1000 light-years of Earth that have the capability to get here, and if they are anything like us, why wouldn't they at least stop and say hi?

Unless you believe in the rare earth hypothesis, or that the speed of light thingy is an end-all-be-all stop to interstellar travel, why WOULDN'T Planet Earth get a few visitors now and then?

I personally believe that ET's are not visiting earth because they do not know about our existence/or they do know of us and can not get here...

We have received messages from others, and my guess is others have received our signals.

Edit: don't forget, it takes years and years to get to the closest star. And that is traveling at light speed...

reply to post by descartes90

Considering in all likelihood the Milky Way Galaxy alone has AT LEAST thousands of technologically intelligent races

Bold claims, your likely to get ripped apart for them.

Anyhow, going by the only proven intelligent life in the universe....US, I doubt any advanced aliens would pop in for a quick cup of tea and a chat.

We would be their third world and they would be our colonisers.

ALS

Originally posted by ALOSTSOUL
reply to post by descartes90

 

Considering in all likelihood the Milky Way Galaxy alone has AT LEAST thousands of technologically intelligent races

Bold claims, you likely to get ripped apart for them.

Anyhow, going by the own proven intelligent life in the universe....US, I doubt any advanced aliens would pop in for a quick cup of tea and a chat.

We would be their third world and they would be our colonisers.

ALS

What if humans are just an especially nasty species? lol

And I wouldn't say it's a bold claim being there are hundreds of billions of stars in the galaxy. Saying that maybe 0.02% of them have space-faring life isn't that much of a bold statement.

Anyhow, going by the only proven intelligent life in the universe....US, I doubt any advanced aliens would pop in for a quick cup of tea and a chat.

Actually, NASA confirmed ET messages.......

Originally posted by You2Two2AreSpecial

Anyhow, going by the only proven intelligent life in the universe....US, I doubt any advanced aliens would pop in for a quick cup of tea and a chat.

Actually, NASA confirmed ET messages.......

really? link me to a link!

Originally posted by descartes90

Originally posted by ALOSTSOUL
reply to post by descartes90

 

Considering in all likelihood the Milky Way Galaxy alone has AT LEAST thousands of technologically intelligent races

Bold claims, you likely to get ripped apart for them.

Anyhow, going by the own proven intelligent life in the universe....US, I doubt any advanced aliens would pop in for a quick cup of tea and a chat.

We would be their third world and they would be our colonisers.

ALS

What if humans are just an especially nasty species? lol

And I wouldn't say it's a bold claim being there are hundreds of billions of stars in the galaxy. Saying that maybe 0.02% of them have space-faring life isn't that much of a bold statement.

Well it is bold because we have not received any messages from them; be it any type of signal it would not be hard.

Originally posted by You2Two2AreSpecial

Originally posted by descartes90

Originally posted by ALOSTSOUL
reply to post by descartes90

 

Considering in all likelihood the Milky Way Galaxy alone has AT LEAST thousands of technologically intelligent races

Bold claims, you likely to get ripped apart for them.

Anyhow, going by the own proven intelligent life in the universe....US, I doubt any advanced aliens would pop in for a quick cup of tea and a chat.

We would be their third world and they would be our colonisers.

ALS

What if humans are just an especially nasty species? lol

And I wouldn't say it's a bold claim being there are hundreds of billions of stars in the galaxy. Saying that maybe 0.02% of them have space-faring life isn't that much of a bold statement.

Well it is bold because we have not received any messages from them; be it any type of signal it would not be hard.

but what if we have?

Interesting theory.

I have a question that I have to ask if you don't mind. Maybe someone can answer it.

If we need to attain the speed of light = 299 792 458 m / s

What are the implications if we travel at say, just one mile per second slower?

299 792 457 or one mile per second faster? 299 792 459

By not achieving light speed, does this throw the whole theory off? If we go faster, does this do something as well?

I don't know how to look at this so if someone knows, I would appreciate it.

Thanks

Originally posted by You2Two2AreSpecial
I personally believe that ET's are not visiting earth because they do not know about our existence/or they do know of us and can not get here...

We have received messages from others, and my guess is others have received our signals.

Edit: don't forget, it takes years and years to get to the closest star. And that is traveling at light speed...

edit on 13-5-2011 by You2Two2AreSpecial because: (no reason given)

Or they have no interest in us because we are a primitive species compared to them.

Possible also.

reply to post by descartes90

What if humans are just an especially nasty species? lol

As I said I'm just going by the only proven intelligent life.

And I wouldn't say it's a bold claim being there are hundreds of billions of stars in the galaxy. Saying that maybe 0.02% of them have space-faring life isn't that much of a bold statement.

I actually agree with you, the galaxy and the Universe are so unimagably huge that the odds that there is life out there are better than the odds that there aren't. I just fear other people may see you claim as bold.

ALS

Originally posted by jude11
Interesting theory.

I have a question that I have to ask if you don't mind. Maybe someone can answer it.

If we need to attain the speed of light = 299 792 458 m / s

What are the implications if we travel at say, just one mile per second slower?

299 792 457 or one mile per second faster? 299 792 459

By not achieving light speed, does this throw the whole theory off? If we go faster, does this do something as well?

I don't know how to look at this so if someone knows, I would appreciate it.

Thanks

I'm not really sure. However, I don't think light speed is a true limitation, that we could never find a way around. I am pretty sure there is a way around it.

Originally posted by ALOSTSOUL
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What if humans are just an especially nasty species? lol

As I said I'm just going by the only proven intelligent life.

And I wouldn't say it's a bold claim being there are hundreds of billions of stars in the galaxy. Saying that maybe 0.02% of them have space-faring life isn't that much of a bold statement.

I actually agree with you, the galaxy and the Universe are so unimagably huge that the odds that there is life out there are better than the odds that there aren't. I just fear other people may see you claim as bold.

ALS

Gotcha.

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Well i'm no expert but I believe if you were to go one-mile-per-second slower, the implications would be....that you won't get to your destination as quick .

As for going 1Mps faster, my current understanding is that it is impossible to go faster than the speed of light (186000mps).

ALS

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Why would they? If the Milky Way Galaxy is teeming with life, as you assume, then what makes Earth special? What makes us a desired destination?

Do you routinely travel to Sudan or the American Appalachia? Not the type of people you'd like to be around or associate with, am I correct? Well, maybe space is the same way. Why come to a backwater planet full of upright apes who shoot hot metal at high, killing velocity at one another for believing in different invisible sky men? Why come to a place where the indigenous population imposes atrocities on one another for different skin pigmentation? Why come to a non space fairing world full of ignorance and general misdirection?

What makes us special? Even if there was hyper intelligent life out there; why would it show up here?

Originally posted by jude11
Interesting theory.

I have a question that I have to ask if you don't mind. Maybe someone can answer it.

If we need to attain the speed of light = 299 792 458 m / s

What are the implications if we travel at say, just one mile per second slower?

299 792 457 or one mile per second faster? 299 792 459

By not achieving light speed, does this throw the whole theory off? If we go faster, does this do something as well?

I don't know how to look at this so if someone knows, I would appreciate it.

Thanks

Holi sheit

Ok, if we move the speed of light, we automatically become an electron cloud....

If we move over the speed of light, we would have to make some new type of energy or substance to us. In other words, we would have to make stable forms of "stuff" that can move that fast. Impossible, because energy only moves a certain way... Unfortunately, energy is infinitely finite, and thus fluid. Thus, it is perfection.... We would have to make a whole new type of perfection, that is infinitely finite....!.....I would also argue that if you were capable of creating this new energy, it would exist on an entirely different plane of existence or/and thus be invisible and unmeasurable.

Moving under the speed of light, that twists the space time continuum...The more you twist the faster you are going. We can get going pretty fast without having our particles break down! For instance, the earth is moving at a pretty fast rate, it is twisting the space time continuum....

Theoretically, if you were able to create a large object with gravity, you could twist the space around it and move it pretty darn fast.

My question is, why do this? To see? To take pictures? What is the purpose of universal expansion?

Earth is just fine. x)

Originally posted by ALOSTSOUL
reply to post by jude11

 

Well i'm no expert but I believe if you were to go one-mile-per-second slower the implications would be....that you won't get to your destination as quick

.

As for going 1Mps faster, my current understanding is that it is impossible to go faster than the speed of light.

ALS

I can't believe it's impossible to go faster as we have never achieved that speed but it always seems to be the magic speed for space travel. Hell, even SGU uses an FTL Drive for Destiny! lol

Thanks for the reply.

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Thank you!

Starting to get my gray matter working.

This makes sense.

Why wouldn't they...hmm

Well, one thing that springs to mind would be...why send a mothership loaded with people to study us when they could just throw some probes down here and have information sent back that way

Such probes could be smaller than a housefly and all over the earth..hell, they could -be- houseflys, or ants, etc...point being, people tend to think that if an alien race wanted to study us, they would be landing here...but then we send out drones to mars to take samples and such...I would think this is a likely first step in studying.

So ya...there ya go, that is one reason why we wouldn't be seeing visitors.

Because Intelligent races are smart enough to stay away from us earth freaks ! they think we are hateful war starved freaks.