Bin Laden's Son Says 'Arbitrary' Killing of His Father Was Illegal

I think they captured him anyway disabled him with a shot and took him but I'll take it as his dead to reply to this thread.Bin laden and his terrorist chums have no rights no human rights if they just attacked the government then fair enough but there war consists of killing thousands of innocent people even people of there own faith,these people have less rights than animals.

An everyday civilian should be allowed to kill a terrorist if the opportunity was there and get knighted for it.

The US goes after tyrants and murderers.

Go US!

Originally posted by nenothtu
A "violation of US law"? Since when does US law apply in Pakistan?

a "trial"? Why? Summary battlefield execution happens all the time. It's WAR, not a minor tiff amongst the Crips and the Bloods in the Hood, subject to US legal process!

Geneva Conventions? My ass. When did AQ sign off on the Geneva Conventions to be afforded their protections?

BTW, I can't find anywhere in the Geneva Conventions that AQ-like organizations fall under any protections from them, anyhow. They sure as hell don't feel bound by them when it's THEIR blade to an infidel's neck!

Nope, they're fair game - in the words of the Qur'an "wherever you may find them".

edit on 2011/5/10 by nenothtu because: (no reason given)

You are correct, AQ does'nt fall under Geneva protection. They do not hail from a particular Nation, and do not wear uniforms. They are illegal soldiers. We can kill, torture, and do whatever we like to them, like it or not.

Don't ask us to be humain, when the enemy cannot afford us the same dignity. They cut our soldiers heads off and film it, yet we are called the tyrants...

Is anyone else thinking the same........
Why would his son or his family write a letter?
How do we know the letters are genuine?

reply to post by nenothtu

Good to know about the uniform thing. Two things about that (very picky, I know) but who defines what a uniform is? And who wears a uniform to sleep?

I've read tons about this since 2002, and it's never very clear regarding the conventions. I seem to recall that we don't or didn't apply the same rules in the same way to the Taliban as we did to al Qaeda.

Can't blame lay people from being confused when lawyers, militaries, and countries disagree about all this,

reply to post by SLAYER69


The guy probably knows he has the wind at his back on this because he reads the internet. Probably taking his advice from Julian Assange (and hey maybe Osama will get the Peace Prize now that he is finally peaceful -sure he is at least in line for it)
What he doesn't know is that most of whats fueling the internet speech is not love for Osama but hatred for Obama. When a new President takes office in America and they entertain this son fights for justice, for comitting this allegedly "illegal" assassination on the part of the USA, the new Prez will be like..."What? Osama who?"

reply to post by SLAYER69


I don't know all the details of the operation (who does?) but from what I have heard, I don't think it was illegal. At least no more illegal than anyone else we've killed during this "War on Terror". Osama was killed during an extremely sensitive military operation in which he posed a threat. Plus, his history shows that he posed a general threat to the US. If the basics of the official story are true, and more and more, it seems to me they likely are, then I think it was legal.

There is no way it was arbitrary. That's comical.

His family members coming out against the killing adds credence to the story.

Originally posted by mythos
of course this is a complex and emotionally sensitive issue, but it makes the ubiquitous Ghandi statement no less true:

"an eye for an eye makes the whole world blind"

and another one from MLK:
“Darkness cannot drive out darkness; only light can do that. Hate cannot drive out hate; only love can do that.”

and finally (and i realize this will earn me a whole heap of ire), but for those who profess christian values--- is this what Christ would have advocated? he who forgive his enemies even as he was being crucified by them?

justice through violence? is that how an advanced culture copes with tragedy?

too readily to we cry for blood, not understanding that such visceral remedies are merely temporary salves for our pain.

violence begets violence.

such is the world we tolerate.

an earlier poster stated - live by the sword, die by the sword.

it certainly wasn't a dove that the US has been wielding.

This would create a world where powerful dictators would rule through violence. The only reason our world survives is BECAUSE we have fought back! If we had never used violence as a means of survival, no one would be free, and your perfect world that you imagine would be upside down. I know this world isn't pretty, i know we're not pretty, but nothing human is perfect.

As for Jesus, no man can know. Jesus was the son of god. We can never approach him. If we're attacked, we must defend ourselves. We do not enjoy it. We know we're imperfect. We know we're sinners. That's why jesus came to earth. To offer us salvation. We know that violence CAN lead to more violence, but it's one of those things you cannot change about our world without taking away our nature. How can you remove our nature? You can't. We're sinners by nature. We have to appeal to a higher power for we ourselves are already condemned.

That's why we cannot get to heaven except through jesus christ.

I wish as you do that the violence would stop. I want nothing more than for the world to be peaceful. I wish we could all put our guns down and close up the military bases and put that money instead into education. Some of the most loving and generous people i've known are in the military. I know it seems antithetical, but they have seen the mouth of the monster and they know how bad this world is. A world where we no longer have to kill each other is a dream world to a military man. Believe me, if there was any possibility of having a world of peace, military men would be the first people to make it real. A world where your family doesn't worry that you'll die. The anxieties and bad dreams fade. It would be great. But alas, we're not there yet. Maybe one day we will know that kind of peace, but I doubt it. The only peace i've ever known in this world is in prayer. But that's my own belief, my own life. I am not sure how others feel about it.

Please remember those who have fallen to preserve our freedoms and protect our children and future peoples from dictators and corrupt governments. They gave their lives so we could watch the sun rise without being shot at or having to wear body armor 24/7. That's all you have to do. You don't have to pick up a gun and join them. You don't have to fight terrorists or enemies. You don't have to even believe that a gun does any good. All you have to do is remember those who have fallen. Their names. The world they lived in. The things they knew. Those kinds of things. You don't have to remember the bombs and the guns and the blood that was spilled. Just the names, the people, their families, the things they cherished, the things they held onto when things were bleak. They gave so much and they're gone now. They just wanted to help.

NM.

Originally posted by catwhoknowsplusone
Obama and Hitler were evil - they exterminated many millions of people.

Obama's son is just as nuts as he was.

I think the people who extinguished these exterminators are to be admired and congratulated.

Originally posted by catwhoknowsplusone
reply to post by catwhoknowsplusone

 

OOPS! Bin Laden is who I mean - but why are their names so similar?

I think somebody starred you thinking you HAD really meant "Obama" and not "Osama"

gotta love the 'companion' threads, one rattling swords for good old 'merica, and the other talking conspiracy. personally, i prefer the conspiracy talk considering the official story on bin laden's death is laughably nonsensical, but hey that's just me. i'd recommend reading the ny times article than this wsj garbage.
statement from bin laden family - ny times

reply to post by thedeadlyrhythm



You know whats funny is that I wrote a thread the other day that didn't get that much attention because I figured it brought up ghosts of Christmas past. How soon we forget...

It's from way back in 2008. Skip to about 1:40 or so.

The Bin Ladens need to stick together...

www.abovetopsecret.com...

Some believe he was killed, and some don't... Apparently.

Simplest solution here would be to prove it, unless the US, CIA can't prove it, at least not with REAL evidence.

9/11 = 2 planes - 3 towers, something doesnt add up ??

reply to post by SLAYER69


hahahahah, well played sir.
especially liked the comparison to the mets

I found this in regards to what has been our claim to OBL's death a legal deal..

In killing Osama bin Laden, U.S. had the law on its side.
.>>>Link >>>

www.washingtonpost.com...

U.S. Attorney General Eric Holder told the Senate Judiciary Committee
Bin Laden killing was U.S. self-defense: U.S.
>>>>Link>>>>
www.reuters.com...

Is there anyone .. who can explain International law .. and if we had legal right to kill OBL?? or have we really violated international law?

I had to do a edit just to include this piece of information as IMO people need to sorta understand about Internatinal law and arbitrary ...

Did the U.S. Violate Bin Laden's Rights? Human rights ..

fairspin.org...

need some feedback..

reply to post by thedeadlyrhythm


Well the question remains was it an "Arbitrary" killing or as some have already posted - warranted?

Looks to me like the pathetic little propagators are getting pissy, we have enough threads talking about whether or not you believe Osama was killed or if you think it is a hoax. Right now the common consensus of the world KNOWS its a HOAX, so its obvious the people here who are making these absurd threads on the assumption that the osama was actually killed are obviously propagators or sheeple.

IMO there are enough threads about the subject, making new threads supporting the HOAX and telling your pathetic little propogator friends to come and support it is not gonna help, in fact its laughable.

Originally posted by SLAYER69
reply to post by thedeadlyrhythm

 

Well the question remains was it an "Arbitrary" killing or as some have already posted - warranted?

Better question remains... Was there any killing of Osama Bin Laden on the day of the alleged raid?

IF so, then it should be painfully easy to prove to the world right?

Following that, we can then discuss the "arbitrary" and warranted angles.

reply to post by Fractured.Facade



We are going with what this particle article has released.
There are plenty of other threads discussing that particle possible angle.