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Originally posted by RelentlessLurker
reply to post by Bixxi3
what are we stealing if we were never going to buy it in the first place?
they make the same amount of money in the end.
can you give a reason other than just repeating "its stealing"? what was stolen exactly? how can duplication ever be theft? they are fundamentally opposite!
Originally posted by AdAbsurdum
reply to post by Bixxi3
Actually it isn't. Thanks to the wonders of technology the "label" is no longer required. Artists can make it on their own.
As far as Hollywood is concerned, they could still do just as well if they stopped with the massive dollar amounts to celebs.
The market is speaking here and instead of price corrections they are instead attempting to force consumption.
Originally posted by AdAbsurdum
reply to post by Bixxi3
Those aren't going to die out because some people ripped a movie.
You do realize that piracy, real live piracy, has been going on in southeast Asia for decades and is a multimillion dollar industry, yes? That hasn't seemed to slow them down... how is a few downloads going to ensure you can't see Independence Day 4: Return to Mars?
Originally posted by AdAbsurdum
reply to post by Bixxi3
Wrong again. This isn't being redistributed for profit. There is no crime here.
From your link: "...in the United States Supreme Court case Dowling v. United States (1985) ruled that bootleg phonorecords did not constitute stolen property"
Now you can pretend this is a morality issue all you want, it doesn't mean you are actually better than the rest of us, it just means you like to think you are.
End of the day this is about business and corporate share-cropping but keep shucking and jiving, and showing your teeth. I mean after all, if it wasn't for the massive profits they turn out on the backs of the people that produce the so called "art" in the first place you would be unable to consume and God help us all if the day ever comes that the entertainment industry has to correct for market changes.edit on 11-5-2011 by AdAbsurdum because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by Bixxi3
ok your right i did not see that.My understanding was downloading was against the law. And i don't think im better then anyone else i really resent that. Each to his own i guess. have a great day
Originally posted by Bixxi3
Originally posted by AdAbsurdum
reply to post by Bixxi3
Wrong again. This isn't being redistributed for profit. There is no crime here.
From your link: "...in the United States Supreme Court case Dowling v. United States (1985) ruled that bootleg phonorecords did not constitute stolen property"
Now you can pretend this is a morality issue all you want, it doesn't mean you are actually better than the rest of us, it just means you like to think you are.
End of the day this is about business and corporate share-cropping but keep shucking and jiving, and showing your teeth. I mean after all, if it wasn't for the massive profits they turn out on the backs of the people that produce the so called "art" in the first place you would be unable to consume and God help us all if the day ever comes that the entertainment industry has to correct for market changes.edit on 11-5-2011 by AdAbsurdum because: (no reason given)
ok your right i did not see that.My understanding was downloading was against the law. And i don't think im better then anyone else i really resent that. Each to his own i guess. have a great day