It Was Right In Front of Our Eyes

reply to post by Ev0lveUp


My own observation: The sun use to be more yellow in color, it's now white.

One use to be able to sit outside for longer periods of time without burning or browning, some how I perceive the sunlight as being hotter.

Why?

Maybe our ozone layer has been depleted more?

I also believe the sky use to be blue more often. I've lived in Illinois for 38 years and Missour 20 years.

When I lived in Missouri I could see stars, now since I've moved to the Chicagoland area, I haven't seen as many stars as when I lived in Missouri (light pollution).

The moon also looks different, it's coloring is off, some how different, it's changed. The moon use to be more white, it's now cream colored.

Is it just me, or did a whole Whack of posts just vanish from this thread?

Wha happen...Hmmmmm

The problem happens when people that view life a certain way make absolute claim over others that see it in a different way. Scientific rationalism (materialism/realism) is but one form of explaining things, yet like a hammer that sees only nails, it is a tool often misused and sometimes worshipped (unknowingly in most cases). The saying the whole is greater than the sum of it's parts helps to explain getting caught in the maze of "reality" as viewed by some.

reply to post by Ev0lveUp

Oh, I wish I had seen this thread earlier. The Sun is going through a cycle where it draws up the water into the upper atomosphere. Where it forms an Ice Crystal Shield around the Earth. All the spraying the governments are doing is causing the water to just come back down, in floods, massive snow stroms etc. When the Earth is in this Bubble everything grows, seasons do not change it is 70 year round everywhere.

Human life span is thousands of years. In the Book of Genesis, "The water is above and below the earth" Noah and the Ancients lived long life spans. Archaeologist have found in the earth strata, that there are 100s of Thousands of years where nothing dies. There are no fossils found at all, not even a dead leaf.

When Climate Change first started they called it the Green House Effect, now they call it Global Warming? The sun can draw this water up without heat, so "Global Warming is a lie". All of the Earth is a Garden of Eden. Why the Governments are trying to prevent this is insane. When this bubble does form we would have to completely stop burning fossil fuel are we would be like in a garage with the motor running, but it is not fossil fuel that caused this.

In my book Epoch Revelations, it starts off with this Paradise, then in 2354 BC, 7 large asteroids hit the Earth causing this bubble to break thus the flood of Noah. It also caused the Earth to Shift on it's Axis 23.7 degrees. All of the Ice Crystals turned to water when it came down and flooded the entire Earth. The date was discovered by me and another Scientist at the sametime without knowing each other. Now we are good friends. This date was also arrived at years ago. History books tried to say it was when every country on the planet was overthrown and destroyed in War. Not True.

My book was taken by the FBI, in 2007, but a friend saved the first 3 Chapters. Free to read online.
This happens about every 4,970 years [which this is now a Classified subject and the book got me into a great deal of trouble]

epochrevelations.com...

reply to post by Hessling


I beg to differ I'm an avid surfer and have been for 8 years... recently I have been getting more sunburnt and tanner every time I surf than previous years...but that might just be me

reply to post by 1000TonBlocks


What I tried to initially post was this...

The people in this post who Believe the Sun has changed in some way, are merely stating their opinion of their observations.
There is no right or wrong with ones observation, yet some nay sayers have jumped All over this post, trying to get people to believe that what they are observing is bupkis.

Why is that ?
No one can speak for anothers observation, that's impossible...yet there are some trying to shut down the believing voices and discredit peoples memory's and observations.

Very suspicious, if you ask me.....
Maybe we are drawing very close to the mark, or getting Red Hot (mind the pun).

This needs to be thought about and investigated on a continuous bases......as my belief is that Something has changed with the Sun or still IS changing, and the repercussions could affect All of humanity.
Why is the Vatican Heavily invested in all the worlds solar telescopes.....and of coarse has one of the largest stores of secret ancient knowledge that will Not be shared with the average person.

Sadly, we are not the ones who own the massive under ground bunkers around the world, and if something Does go down world wide...the petty shills and trolls will Not be going to a safe location....no matter What you have been promised.

So lets all seek the truth, with an open and respectful mind.
We are all suppose to be brothers and sisters helping each other out.....not laying traps in-front of one anothers feet.

reply to post by Ev0lveUp


I remember a different tonal quality of the light back in the 70's too.

It seemed to be a more yellowy colour then, but i always thought it was just in my mind, a trick of the memory seeing as i was only a young kid at the time.

You know, i thought it was just down to my perceptions changing...how attentive and how closely i observed things back then as a kid (used to spend hours just scrutinising a plant, or even a petal of a flower, an insect, or whatever)

We see things differently as we age...as we learn more, we lose that magical quality of childhood perception don't we...i just put it down to that.

Originally posted by hbarker
Suns hotter, and diff spectrum,, I knew something was goin on,,Though tit was just old age... and could not take the heat any more.,. glad to read its not just me and the wife..

Great thread

Actually you had it right to begin with. It's your age and mine. As we age we are more sensitive to light and we burn easier.

With the young people, I think the answer really is "right in front of our eyes". I live on a dead end street where most of the homes have multiple children. 40 or 50 years ago, that would have meant the sound and sight of children playing outdoors all of the time. Today, I frankly never see any children outside except to go to and from a car. The people across the street from me have playground equipment and in the 8 years I've lived there, I've not once seen any of their five kids playing in their yard or using the equipment. In fact none of the kids are ever outside.

What is happening here is they spend all their time in front of a TV or a more often a Computer or Game Console for entertainment. As a consequence they spend far less time outdoors and make themselves more susceptible to burns and sensitivity to sunlight. Then the handful of times a year they do go out and be active in the sunshine, they burn easily and react more to the sunlight.

The OP is based on wild speculation and any time you see mention of the Indigo Children, your heading into the bizarre and away from fact and science. Indigo Children is a book selling scam. It works well because Parents always want to believe their child is special somehow and the confidence people pushing it play on that weakness. Young Parents are gullible about their own children and easy to manipulate using their children. When I saw Indigo Children mentioned in the OP, I knew this was the opposite of a well researched thread and it would cater to the silly crowd.

On topic-

Glad to see somebody else already pointed out the fallacy at the beginning of the OP. The Sun's light is in fact white, which is a mixture of all colors. Any observed changes are caused by effects from the atmosphere and any pollutants like dust that may be in it. It's also in part due to the angle of the sun, which is why we get the Golden Hour before sunset. At the low angle the light passes through more atmosphere before it reaches us and more of the dust or anything else in the atmosphere.

This thread would be a very good study in how people are able to convince themselves of untrue things through suggestion. One person convinces themselves something is true and that convinces others. It will even change perceptions.

A prism produces ROY G. BIV (the name I was taught in my youth to remember the colors of the rainbow or the spectrum. Red, Orange, Yellow, Green, Blue, Indigo and Violet. The same prism will produce the same results it did a hundred years ago or fifty years ago.

Another thing leading to misconceptions is people living in the sardine cans called cities and less and less of them living in true rural area's. They are unaware that if they get away from those cities into low population areas, you can still see the Milky Way at night and wonderful blue skies in the daytime. People need to get out of those sardine cans and spend some time away from all the light, air and noise pollution.

It's also not only the kids who spend less time outdoors. Used to be you could go to a park and find it full of people on nice days. I've noticed now that the parks have far fewer people in them. Of course we are more susceptible to burn, since we spend so little time outside in the sun.

reply to post by Ev0lveUp

I've taken notice upon visits to California, US... that the light even bends through the atmosphere differently then i remember at sunset. The cloud formations seemed a bit stretched, actually not a bit they were ultra stretched towards the horizon. I recall some information I came by that the sun which is now emitting new particles that are otherwise unknown to the specialists. The carbon in all matter on Earth can be dated using the decay rate of the irradiated atoms in the carbon-14 particles. Now with this unknown particle/particles its said that it is contributing to mutations on Earth in all lifeforms

The sun appears different depending on our altitude or elevation, maybe this is all that is being perceived. I know I grew up in FL and the sun is less harsh, more diffused, subdued and seemingly warm in it's visible spectrum. Now I live out west at an elevation above 4000 ft where it also is much drier. The sunlight on everything is completely different, I preferred the sun back in FL. Also, in FL I've heard sands actually blow in from the Sahara, further enhancing the deep hues of sunsets there. Out west here, things also appear much more washed out I think due to the low humidity coupled with the glaring sun.

Maybe the sun looks brighter to you because there is less air pollution today than 30 years ago (where you live). Many parts of the US had worse air pollution 40 years ago, before all of the emission controls were added to cars.

To a person living in Beijing, my guess is the sun is not as bright today, as it was in 1970 :-)

reply to post by coolottie


In my book Epoch Revelations, it starts off with this Paradise, then in 2354 BC, 7 large asteroids hit the Earth causing this bubble to break thus the flood of Noah
Your belief


However, about 35 years ago God began to open the true believers’ understanding of the timeline of history. Thus it was discovered that the Bible teaches that when the events of the past are coordinated with our modern calendar, we can learn dates of history such as Creation (11,013 B.C.), the flood of Noah’s day (4990 B.C.),
Harold camping and his followers.

So, who is right ?

reply to post by Ev0lveUp


I noticed this last spring, the pure whiteness of the light of the sun, seemed different, thought it was just me maybe.

I like it, the new and improved white sun.

reply to post by B.Morrison


Oh man !, I just came back home and went straight to ATS to check your results with the prism. Brother, you gotta stop this "I remember the sun...." thing.

I don't understand how is possible to remember if the sun had a different color 10 or 20 years ago (unless we were talking about really opposite colors), but maybe all these brothers and sisters are right and new age has began.

News Just In.........................

Planet X in fact crashed into the sun, causing the Sun to start
the transformation into a 3 atomed burning Red Giant.
I predict the Sun (Red Giant) will over whelm the hapless Earth.
This will happen in 2012 May ish, precisely one year after
Rapture. It doesn't matter though as the only people left will Heathens.

LOL

Originally posted by wakeUpOrDie
I thought you ATSers motto was Deny Ignorance. For this to be the top thread the last day in a half is absolutely laughable.

The OP claims the sun is getting whiter and when he tested the sunlight with a prism it was missing the color red. I just took a prism in the sun and I got the normal spectrum of light as it has always been.

The sun hasn't changed at all.


I see 12 pages of people showing their ignorance. Thread Fail. ATS FAIL for leaving this as the number one thread.

edit on 10-5-2011 by wakeUpOrDie because: (no reason given)

Thak you so much. Finally the evidence we need. Can you post a video or image of your prism in action?

With this "Solar Color Fever", prisms factories were about to rocket launch business.

the times are a changin!

Originally posted by WanderingThe3rd
w/e me and everyone of my friend will agree the sun has been hotter the last 2 years then ever, the day itself might not be that hot, but the sun, holy cow.

Want proof?...

Go sit in your car on a day thats +5...... about noting higher, and you'll notice how hot your car is already, and your skin will start to burn, but as soon as you step outside, you're cold as hell. this wasn't happening to me a couple years ago, something with the sun is giving something off that it didn't use too, unless its planet x

So true. I then turned the A/C full blast and suddenly I was cold inside and stepped out and it was heat stroke time. Then I tuned in to ESPN and hit the On Star button and the guy thought I was Mike Golich, then I switched to Howerd Stern and the On Star guy like freaked out. All the time the Sun was shining down more like 1987, and then suddenly my photographic memory rewound and it was 2011 and I was late for work.

Great thread!- got me thinking about 'light refraction & reflection' etc, making it seem whiter/brighter.
Its not so bad where I live (country Australia), as theres less pollution,chem trails etc.
But I am wondering whether the increasing activity in the sun, along with the increased EMR- electromagnetic radiation it generates, is 'seasonal', in the sense that the earths magnetic field 'flips' every 200,000 thousand years approx.
Maybe the suns increased EMR activity, is what brings about this flip?
Heres a snippet from the link below-
'Our planet's magnetic field reverses about once every 200,000 years on average. However, the time between reversals is highly variable. The last time Earth's magnetic field flipped was 780,000 years ago, according to the geologic record of Earth's polarity.'

Maybe this would alter how we view the sky & sun here on earth??


news.nationalgeographic.com...

I just wanted to add, that having looked outside at the morning sun (its 8.42am here) ,the sun is a brilliant white.
It isn't the 'golden' that I remember from my youth either. (I'm 44)
The sky, while still blue, is also a much paler version, than the gorgeous blue I remember staring up at as a child.