Nuclear Accident at Plant in Mississippi USA gets Totally Ignored!!! Why?

reply to post by redzareptile


Keep thinking what you want, but you must know very little about how the world works..sigh

Weird...I work in a nuclear facility and I haven't heard anything about this yet...usually we get notifications for any accidents or incidents that happen in other facilities. For instance we got a pretty good update on Japan when it was going down. If I hear anything I will post....

Originally posted by wasco2
reply to post by muzzleflash

 

Your whole post was almost complete BS. What was released into the river was a small amount of collected rainwater that was contaminated with a small amount of tritium. Monitoring equipment on the pumps detected the radiation almost immediately. It was a non emergency because no one was at risk. Toxicology is all about the dosage. Anything in the right dose is lethal.

I'm sure this is a lie too:

“Although the concentrations of tritium exceeded EPA drinking water limits, the release should not represent a hazard to public health because of its dilution in the river,” said Lara Uselding, public affairs officer with the U.S. Nuclear Regulatory Commission, Region IV.

Who do you work for? lol

Your post is complete fantasy. The report says clearly UNKNOWN AMOUNT.

But here you are acting like you know the amount?

I am glad you think you are psychic but I have a feeling you are not.

Are we intending to defile and despoil every damn thing on the planet?

How much is too much? And they clamor for less "job killing" regulation? What is getting killed is the future to save a buck.

Let the eagle fly into a nuclear sky.

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Originally posted by Nobama
This has been reported on, i've seen it on CNN a couple of times, and the day after it happened it was headlining on my local news webpage.

I watch CNN every day all the time, can you prove your claims? Maybe you can? Let's see.

If you can verify it was on CNN I will be surprised because I never saw even a hint of it. I didn't find out about it till I was browsing the Health Ranger's website Natural News.

It happened on April 28th according to the NRC site, and it was not reported until May 2nd. And I didn't find out until yesterday, May 7th.

That is a really long time for none of us to have really found out. It happened before the flooding apparently(??).

Originally posted by Nobama
reply to post by Morpheas

 

I dont see why but okay...


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It's all over CNN.

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Fail of the week. Congrats.

None of those are talking about Grand Gulf Tritium spills.

It's about a flood.

Originally posted by Nobama
reply to post by SeesFar

 

This is a really, really distressing situation that should be minimized, yet it seems the MSM is ignoring this as well as they ignore all of our other near simultaneous disasters.

It is being reported on. see my post above yours, and go to any MSM site, and type flooding into their search bars.

edit on 8-5-2011 by Nobama because: (no reason given)

Why would I type flooding? I am looking for "Tritium Spill".

Oh man. Hopefully by the time I read the last Page I will find your retractions / redactions. If not, LOL.

why? the gov doesnt care about misissippi anymore.. they know that state is screwed already... we only have a certain amount of resources now and they will only fund certain states.. and turn others into dumps

reply to post by muzzleflash


Yeah it says "unknown amount" it also says sensors detected the tritium as soon as they starting pumping the standing rain water and shut the pumps down. That suggests to me a small amount actually made it into the river. That and the fact the NRC and EPA weren't concerned about it.

This angers me as much as the next guy, but what really pisses me off is the complacency on the part of the media. Does anybody here remember a time when we could pretty much count on the press being a "watchdog" of sorts? We could pretty much count on those annoying reporters who were actually out there breaking stories, instead of showing up 3 hours after the fact and reporting the remnants or reporting the same thing everybody else has already reported.

I remember a time when the press was a thorn in everybody's side. Sure, sometimes they stepped over the line but we always knew, if there was a story, they'd get it out. If there was corruption, they'd get it out. If there was a scandal, they'd get it out. Now, they do NOTHING. It's like Tony Soprano has had a "sit-down" with everybody in the media and said, "you'll report what we tell you to report, kapish?". When was the last time you hear or saw a genuine, "exclusive", because the reporters went out and got the story? Nowadays, if something is exclusive, it's because the source went to the media outlets and said, "I have this story. How much will you give me for exclusivity?".

Woodward and Bernstein were the last reporters to actually go out a break a huge story wide open. There was a time when the National Enquirer was basically a joke, but guess what? They've broken more real news stories in the last several years than the conventional media. They broke the John Edwards story. They had a big hand in the anthrax story. It used to be the press would get an anonymous tip then they'd act on it. Now, they either laugh at the tipster to diminish his credibility or just bury the story because the PTB tell them to. They get their marching orders from the CEO's and they get their marching orders from Big Brother. It makes me sick. I won't even watch mainstream news any more because I know I'm being fed a line of scripted, choreographed B.S. How those people can call themselves journalists or "reporters" is beyond me. I don't even know how they sleep with themselves.

reply to post by muzzleflash


Thanks for this thread and all the info it contains.
I don't live in America, I live in the UK but reading this has made me do some research into the Hinkley Point power plant which is not too far away from where I live in the grand scheme of things. I have always felt very uneasy with its presence.

Star and flag. The more people that can be made aware of just how dangerous this method of power production is and just how shody the runing and regulation of these plants is when compared to the potential risks the better! Keep up the good work.

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I thought you had some info about the Brown's Ferry Plant after the April storms/tornadoes. I saw one article about it and then nothing.

Originally posted by winotka
reply to post by muzzleflash

 

I thought you had some info about the Brown's Ferry Plant after the April storms/tornadoes. I saw one article about it and then nothing.

Sure. Here you go. We don't have very much info but hopefully this will do for now.

At 5:01 PM on April 27, 2011, all three reactors scrammed due to loss of external power caused by a tornado in the vicinity of the plant. Control rod insertion and cooling procedures operated as designed withno physical damage or release of radiation. Diesel backup generators provided power after a brief period of outage.

An NRC Unusual Event, the lowest level of emergency, was declared due toloss of power exceeding 15 minutes. Additionally, a small oil leak was found on one generator. Due to widespread transmission grid damage from the storms and because of the shutdown of Browns Ferry, significant blackouts occurred throughout the Southeastern United States.

Browns Ferry Wiki

And here is the official NRC report from their website.

NOTIFICATION OF UNUSUAL EVENT DUE TO LOSS OF OFFSITE POWER

Skipping down through the "UPDATES" section, I found some interesting developments.

UPDATE FROM BILL BAKER TO HOWIE CROUCH AT 2303 EDT ON 4/27/11
As a result of the loss of offsite power, the Diesel-driven Fire Pump auto-started. While the pump was running, the licensee discovered that approximately one quart of oil had leaked from the fire pump into the cold water channel which discharges into navigable waterways. The licensee confirmed this at 1950 CDT by visually identifying a sheen in the channel. The licensee notified the National Response Center of the spill and, in accordance with their site discharge permit, notified the State of Alabama. This constitutes an 0ffsite Notification in accordance with 10CFR50.72(b)(2)(xi).

UPDATE FROM BILL BUTLER TO HOWIE CROUCH AT 2338 EDT ON 4/27/11
At 2120 CDT, operators on Unit 1 were controlling reactor water level between 2 and 51 inches when RCIC became sluggish and water level dropped to +2" causing a valid RPS Scram signal as well as PCIS signals 2, 3, 6, and 8. All valves operated as expected and all isolations were completed.

The licensee notified the NRC Resident Inspector. Notified NRC R2IRC (Wert).

So there are apparently still some issues they are dealing with and working through.

Could this possible cause some of the farmlands to become uninhabitable for years? And the towns near the spillways that are opening up. More ways our food supply is getting jacked around. I see the possibility of food prices increasing even more soon.

reply to post by aleintripod


If you have any experience with the engineering community that operates these machines, you would probably be a lot more concerned. If you had any knowledge of the authors of the books on this technology, you'd have more concern. If you knew how many people died in order to decide what was a safe level of exposure, you'd be irate to know the levels were just raised for safe exposure. When these safe limits were set in the early fifties, people still carried isotopes in their pockets, it is quite comical if you think about it. Every time a person plays with them to alter statistics, they are just spitting in the face of science.

The safety of automic energy was so propagandized in the late fifties and sixties, that a boy in Michigan irradiated his neighbourhood, when he tried to build a nuclear reactor as a project for his boyscout badge. Know your own history USA. These people are NOT more intelligent than you. In 1986, Canada and the USA took measures to protect the foodsupply after Chernobyl. Today it seems people are more content to be ignorant.

If the EPA allows the use and safe lable of products like Corexit for a dispersant, or the nurotoxins used on cotton bugs, chemicals that are directly contradictive to human survial, it seem silly to be surprised that this incident should go without public notice.

Much of the hype could just be fallout from Fukashima, being detected on sensitive local equipment. That happens when you have an open reactor in the world. You also have a hard time calibrating machines sensing equipment in radioactive environments. Lot of research done on that during the cold war for siffing radioactive work taking place in enemy territory. Regardless, that means there is fallout, protect yourselves. Tons of thing a person can do.

Reactor spill or not, the people of Missouri and Mississippi are drowning, and I pray for them.

Originally posted by wasco2
reply to post by muzzleflash

 

Yeah it says "unknown amount" it also says sensors detected the tritium as soon as they starting pumping the standing rain water and shut the pumps down. That suggests to me a small amount actually made it into the river. That and the fact the NRC and EPA weren't concerned about it.

It suggests me to we do not know the amount. Nor do we know how long the pump was running and at what capacity/volume was pumped. Nor do we know the % of tritium in the water.

You are merely assuming the best case scenario without any actual facts, and are seeking to downplay the issue in hopes we will move along and forget about it possibly?

Even the NRC admits we have no actual data about the quantity released.

But common sense should tell you right away, that any release of radioactive waste into the environment is a tragedy and hazardous situation.

I am currently trying to get a hold of some test results if I can locate them. I may have to contact the EPA or NRC directly and ask them to help me find out. We will see what can be found. Just be patient please before you jump the gun and call this a non-issue.

Originally posted by dwmjr1985
Could this possible cause some of the farmlands to become uninhabitable for years? And the towns near the spillways that are opening up. More ways our food supply is getting jacked around. I see the possibility of food prices increasing even more soon.

edit on 8-5-2011 by dwmjr1985 because: (no reason given)

It's possible but we really don't know right now due to lack of solid facts/information about quantity etc.

Here is further information about Tritium that may interest you.

Half-life 12.32 years

Decay products 3He

]While tritium has several different experimentally determined values of its half-life, the National Institute of Standards and Technology lists 4,500±8 days (approximately 12.32 years).[1] It decays into helium-3 by beta decay as in this nuclear equation: 3 1T → 3 2He1+ + e− + ν e and it releases 18.6 keV of energy in the process.

And some more interesting information.

Like hydrogen, tritium is difficult to confine. Rubber, plastic, and some kinds of steel are all somewhat permeable. This has raised concerns that if tritium were used in large quantities, in particular for fusion reactors, it may contribute to radioactive contamination, although its short half-life should prevent significant long-term accumulation in the atmosphere.

So it's capable of seeping through many substances fairly well. That's a bit disconcerting.

The high levels atmospheric nuclear weapons testing that took place prior to the enactment of the Partial Test Ban Treaty proved to be unexpectedly useful to oceanographers. The high levels of tritium oxide introduced into upper layers of the oceans have been used in the years since then to measure the rate of mixing of the upper layers of the oceans with their lower levels.

And also check this out, the Mississippi River has been known that have tritium pollution detectable since the atomic bomb testing period.

In a 2004 study, several rivers were taken into account during the examination of tritium concentrations (starting in the 1960s) throughout the Mississippi River Basin: Ohio River (largest input to the Mississippi River flow), Missouri River, and Arkansas River.[25] The largest tritium concentrations were found in 1963 at all the sampled locations throughout these rivers and correlate well with the peak concentrations in precipitation due to the nuclear bomb tests in 1962. The overall highest concentrations occurred in the Missouri River (1963) and were greater than 1,200 TU while the lowest concentrations were found in the Arkansas River (never greater than 850 TU and less than 10 TU in the mid-1980s).

Hmm. Since they have been testing the River for this pollutant for decades, perhaps this will give us background data when the new testing comes out to determine exactly how much of this was ejected into the River. Possibly?

All of this information is from the Tritium Wiki

Is this news being suppressed in the mass media, or just ignored? I'm sure the atomic industry wouldn't like more negative news to come out about it, after fukashima.

Originally posted by dwmjr1985
Is this news being suppressed in the mass media, or just ignored? I'm sure the atomic industry wouldn't like more negative news to come out about it, after fukashima.

Ignored. (Which is the preferred method of suppression).

I have seen no evidence yet of actual arrests or erasing web information. It appears they are just ignoring it and hoping we won't notice and if we did, hopefully we will forget about it/get over it sometime soon.

There may be active suppression tactics going on, but they are so well hidden I have not seen any hints of that type of activity yet.

Just the normal "Ignore it 100% and hope it goes away" type approach.

This is just my assessment based on what I have seen.
Also due to the fact the NRC.gov site is publicly available information and the report is still up for all to view (including dozens and dozens of other reports about other concerning incidents!)

Because the media doesn't want the people panicking.