Fox News reported OBL's death DAYS EARLIER!!!

Originally posted by SaturnFX
Something weird happened
Now I have no timestamps showing up on my tweets, or anyone elses for that matter (I just tried the change the date thing).

Someone confirm to me that timestamp dates are still on twitter please (restart your browser)...man, imagine if suddenly all dates across the twitterverse got yanked because of ATS...

Put your time back, and the dates will all load for you. This is because your date/time doesn't match the twitter servers. I still have my date/time and I'm 100% sure if I checked your twitter account, it would show me the correct time of posting.... and even if it showed up "blank" it would just prove that the post was manipulated. Again, this isn't the case.

If you noticed, I already verified for you guys that the timestamps are Twitter Server based.

Yeah, buts its Fox News. I pretty much put them into the same category as "Its on the internet, so it must be true"

reply to post by joyride0187


Well considering the tweet was sent from an Android phone, this would have been impossible for the OP to pull off.
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reply to post by AshleyD


My husband and I both heard on May 1 that the US had the body for a week, but were waiting for DNA. We thought it was from the speech, but as Obama was talking, we noticed that the story changed. I'll have to find the transcript.

I just did a custom Google news search with the range of April 28, 2011-April 28, 2011, Osama and I found an article relevant to the OP.

This one comes from AFP. It's dates April 28. It's mostly about finance, but it mentions Osama's death. The site doesn't say it was updated after it's' posting.
www.google... .com/hostednews/afp/article/ALeqM5jFtmvrYpJbsk4J_rEya5rV8WKzCA?docId=CNG.3340ad36c18eb1a55e88203c4e216556.331

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Very strange indeed man...


It's 4am... I gotta go sleep now :shk:

reply to post by SonicInfinity


Megneverlands twitter page says that she's on the east coast, which means that it was 1:43 PM when she posted that tweet. If we can figure out what program was on at that time on fox, then that might yield some results.

Originally posted by ~Lucidity
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Ugh I meant to ask that. Okay. Back to the drawingboard. I missed if she said what time zone she's in...

megneverlands Meg My sister sent me this pic. She says this is what my dog has been doing since I left for Philly. He misses me :'( twitpic.com... 3 May

megneverlands Meg Heading to Philly for a few weeks. I'm so tired from the Royal Wedding party last night that I may sleep through the entire flight! 29 Apr

megneverlands Meg Had fun in Phoenix last night & this morning, but left early after little cousin was rushed into emergency surgery. More prayers please. 28 Apr

Philadelphia perhaps

Maybe helps.

Originally posted by esteay812
WOW!! I can't believe there are so many different understandings of the information released. It blows my mind that so many people have so many different versions of the story they believe.

Snapshots in time for each of billions of people. This is why we have to work hard to confirm what "official sources" believed versus what people interpreted, speculated about, and re-communication

People will hear something and then remember that forever, no matter if corrections are issues or they don't realize it was speculation and unconfirmed.

This is why it's so easy to slip things by. The thing that makes the most noise or that strikes them as interesting or odd or what have you are the things people remember.

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The transcript is below the video on this page.

tpmlivewire.talkingpointsmemo.com...

Just for the sake of being safe, if anyone is paranoid... maybe you could break out your camera phone, or other camera and take pictures of the screen, with the tweeter screen shot and date...

Here's one way to view the set of possibilities in all this:

1. The entire government is lying and involved all media outlets as well, including those not friendly to the current administration. (dubious at best - why inform media outlets ahead of time, with very high risks of blowing your cover?)

2. The OP saw a Fox news ticker claiming OBL was dead and tweeted about it. Fox News has made plenty of incorrect headlines in the past, some intentional (see comment above).

3. The OP thinks they saw a Fox news ticker claiming OBL was dead and tweeted about it. No one else out there on the Web has made a corroborating claim. You would think plenty of other people would also have commented/tweeted about having seen this headline.

4. OP is a dis-info agent in league with Twitter and has edited an older entry to cast doubts on the government's story (no offense OP, just being thorough).

5. OP is an über hacker and edited their own previous twitter or inserted one to appear older than it is. Same as above only without involving Twitter. (again no offense OP, just being thorough).

Is it possible to hack twitter? Everything's hackable. Tweets are time stamped by a java app. (Hacking Twitter's Javascript) (Hackernews.com - from SpaceRogue, formerly of l0pht). But seems unlikely, and based on the content of "Megneverland's" tweets, she doesn't appear to be a nefarious hacker.

In fact Meg's tweets appear so innocuous, about kids, some pop culture, etc., that she appears to be an everyday mom with feet on the earth. Precisely the type of account that would be a perfect dis-info agent! Slip in an occasional dis-info tweet, and it appears all the more valid coming from a normal person going about their normal life. (really again no offense OP, just considering all the scenarios).

Another possibility is that Fox displayed something close to what OP thinks said "Osama bin Laden dead" and tweeted about it. Did it perhaps say "Osama bin Laden dead?" (a question, versus a statement). Why haven't any other witnesses come forward and also mention seeing this?

I have the Fox News Ticker app running (you can download it from here: FOX News Ticker This sends all their ticker headlines to your desktop. I have similar apps from all the major networks, I use a scraper (a search tool that looks for certain headlines) to find articles relevant to my interests. I'm sorry to say that at no time prior to May 1st/2nd did Fox News forward any ticker headlines via their ticker app. Doesn't mean the new channel didn't display it then purge it from the app. But generally, all the headlines that scroll across their ticker then get forwarded via the app.

Here's more ticker apps for those who like to stay informed;
BBC Desktop Ticker
CNN desktop news
Drudge Report
Huffington Post
NewsBliss RSS News Ticker

Millions of people watch Fox news. You have ONE witness making this claim. No other sources can verify this claim. Fox News ticker app also doesn't support this claim. Fox News RSS feeds from August 28 do not support this claim. Based on the information given by the OP about all you can determine regarding this alleged headline of August 28 is that the OP is either:

- correct
- mistaken
- mischievous (hacker)
- dishonest (dis-info agent)

Hopefully my assessment has this completely cleared all this up!

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I thought we had already established that the time is set to the viewer's time settings, not the posters?
Am I mistaken?

Originally posted by collietta
This one comes from AFP. It's dates April 28. It's mostly about finance, but it mentions Osama's death. The site doesn't say it was updated after it's' posting.
AFP

The story date is wrong the content refers to Monday (May 2nd) which was a Bank Holiday but it was written as if the Monday trading day was over.

French and German shares firmed on Monday in the light of Osama bin Laden's killing and the possible effects on reducing instability in the world, notably in the Middle East, traders said.
The markets in London were closed for a bank holiday.

Her original tweet is retweeted by me

and 3 others!

You know, for a group that wants to consider themselves fighters for truth, your a bunch of lazy f--ks.

If you have a twitter account, and haven't clicked the retweet option on this yet, your not helping it possibly trend, and therefore your about as useful to "the cause" as lipstick on a pig.

Now, sign into twitter, goto megs page, click retweet on the message in question

the more its out there, the more its noticed...get on it...there better be as many or more retweets than there are flags on ats!

reply to post by collietta

That has to be a misprint. It also says Monday. Monday was the second. Not April 28. April 28th was a Thursday. Weird.

Originally posted by esteay812

Originally posted by ~Lucidity
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No. Official story is that the raid went down at 1:30 a.m. local time in Pakistan on Monday, May 2, 2011.

wait, what??? it was reported to us on SUNDAY at a 10.30p EST conference..... what was this past Sunday's Date?....

Wasn't this past Sunday May 1st? Also, I would have sworn that during the reports, information was passed along that he was killed one week prior and the news was not released immediately, so that DNA testing could be performed...

edit on 7-5-2011 by esteay812 because: (no reason given)

That was Pakistani time.....

...local time in Pakistan...

I.E.

It's 11:02 PM Saturday May 7th EST right now in Florida.

It's currently
Current UTC (or GMT/Zulu)-time used: Sunday, May 8, 2011 at 03:01:24 In Pakistan....

That's a 16 hour difference.

Ergo, the time Binladen was supposedly gotten by that very report was....9:30 AM May 1st 2011 EST time.... according to the world clock.

Page save post so I can come back to the same page later.

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reply to post by collietta


Very interesting. For posterity, here is the appropriate excerpt from the article on the 28th mentioning OBL's death and market impacts:

S&P Indices analyst Howard Silverblatt said the effect of bin Laden's death on the markets would likely be shortlived.

SOURCE

This gives credence to the OP's story that they did indeed see it in the ticker and that the story was floating around some news agencies before the official break.

Its common knowledge that the admin. and FOX do not have a good relationship. Its possible that Fox had a credible insider that broke it to them on the 28th. But just as they attempted to be the first to break the news they were warned off,

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Thanks. Sounds like she was in Phoenix.