Al Qaeda Confirms Osama Bin Laden's Death!

I just had a thought. I can see Bin Laden begging for his life and some SEAL said, "Hasta la vista, baby."

Or the SEAL asking for permission and Obama gives the thumbs down sign. Maybe thats what Hillary was puking about?

Originally posted by IamAbeliever
Nope. I have believed that he was killed years ago. I don't think he was killed on May 1st, I don't believe he had anything to do with 9/11, and I don't believe that Al-Qaeda even exists.

You do not believe Osamsa had anything to do with 9/11. You do not believe in Al-Qaeda. Yet, you believe they killed a man named Osama Bin Laden years ago? Who was this guy and why would they kill him then?

Originally posted by kevinunknown

Originally posted by spikey


Are you actually stating that it's your belief that most people here on ATS are paranoid? Including or excluding yourself? The owners? Mods? etc? Seems that way to me.

No not everyone, but most people, yes

Well Kevin, thanks...i just gave you a star for honesty.

It's a welcome respite in a sea of BS..thanks a lot.

Will try to look it up. And will post if i can find video.

One of the news channelsl in the UK had text across the bottom " USAma Bin Laden"

Obviously it did not have Capital SA.

Remember when Iraqi police caught some British soldiers dressed as Arabs who were shooting at them and civilians??

i don't believe for a second that those to officers decided to play dress up and go have some fun.....

i don't believe Al-Qaeda is a group of OBL's homies that cant ring him up to go to the local pub.

i don't believe Al-Qaeda is any different than these British soldiers shooting people to cause terror and create the illusion of terrorism. FAKERY used to create FEAR

the only terrorist on this planet is the united states gov't and their homies going around the world playing team america. They have spread the most FEAR in their own country and abroad than any other.
academic.evergreen.edu...

for one to believe ANYTHING that comes out of the white house now without substantial concrete proof is surely "drunk on the kool-aid"

reply to post by davea66


Here is my problem though. What can we do about it? If the elites don't want us to know then we won't know.

All you can do is make preparations for you and your family. No government in the solar system can save 6 billion lives. So they are going to save themselves instead of us. We don't have the tools to stop, lets say, yellow stone from blowing its top. Or some comet from slamming into Earth. We don't have the tools to stop a madman from creating a deadly disease in his basement and releasing it to the world.

We have the tools for the disease scenario but you guys claim the government is all up in our business snooping on us. You don't trust the governments of the world to snoop on people in the basement building bombs and diseases.

Instead of hand wringing about stuff we can't control I would start making plans to save yourself and your family if you can.

reply to post by LosLobos


Yeah I have been thinking along the same lines, did the SEAL who shot him come off with cheesy remark. That gets me thinking about the guy who did pull the trigger, I really hope they let him write a book about this whole thing, it would make some story

Well if I may chime in for a second; I find it awfully ironic that more American's have been doubting Obama as the president as of lately, especially with all the increases in Oil Prices and everything else going on in the world right now. More so when he "officially" released his birth certificate to the public, which a good percentage of our populus believe that it's fake.

I find it suspicious that since Obama's ratings have gone down since his presidency, we're hearing about Osama's death all of a sudden? Exactly the kind of news blinded Americans wanted to hear. A pick me up. Tough times out here, every one is stressing out and guess what... let's roll out the media propaganda once again and pull the curtain over everyone's eyes...

I've been hearing multiple news stories of both biased and unbiased opinions of the situation. A lot of them can't seem to keep their story straight. From what I heard, the CIA was watching the whole raid when it took place. I haven't once seen a video, nor a picture to make me believe otherwise.

My thoughts are, this is a perfect election scheme for Obama to make him look like the good guy again. Not that I believe any politician that runs for this country, but I would also hate to see him get elected for another 4 years, thoughts?

Very strange all this, I was in the garden today and heard on BBC radio...

"Al Qaeda have Confirmed Osama Bin Laden's Death on their official website"

Official website?

Does anyone know of this official website? I find that very hard to believe and did a little googling which confirmed my disbelief, there is no official website lol

Originally posted by IamAbeliever

Nope. I have believed that he was killed years ago. I don't think he was killed on May 1st, I don't believe he had anything to do with 9/11, and I don't believe that Al-Qaeda even exists.

Wow...your screenname is misleading

reply to post by GodIsPissed


9/11 is an entirely separate conspiracy theory than the alleged death of Osama Bin Laden, though.Regardless of whether he was responsible for the terrorist attacks or not, the subject of this thread is whether or not he died on 5/1/2011.

Originally posted by Bentenheimer
reply to post by kevinunknown

 

The thoughts that come to my mind are:

It seems funny that people want proof of his death, even though there was little proof that he was ever alive. All I've ever seen of Osama's existence were a couple of short, highly edited videos, and a few quotes from people who said that they'd met him. The rest of it was from Bush's speeches, and from pundits on TV. I'm not saying that the dude in the videos wasn't named Osama Bin Laden, I'm just saying that I've never been convinced that he did what TPTB said he did.

And, why would a terrorist attack be any more likely today, as opposed to the day before his death? Were the "terrorists" sitting around and waiting for a reason to carry out an attack?

In other words, his life or death only becomes an issue when someone, somewhere wants to scare the public, or to increase their own approval ratings.

Star for you, my friend!

You're right. Although they may be terrorists, they DO have a life. They're not sitting there plotting endlessly about how to cripple the U.S.A's infrastructure (among other things). But, unfortunately, this is the logic that is thrust into the minds of the uneducated by the government. They make them out to be the "bad people", when it's a great possibility that this entity may not even exist. To answer your question at the beginning, (which is a very good one, I might add) I think it's because most people simply don't do research. They are pulled in by the media news who happen to mention an individual and say he's a wanted terrorist, and they already believe them before asking any other questions. As times goes on and we are left out of the loop, for these people, it NEVER grazes their mind that this person may not exist. Too much laziness, not enough research.
A secondary reason may be (might sound silly but it's the truth!) people are obsessed with the culture of death. For instance, when the news breaks out about someone famous ( eg: a Hollywood actor) passing away, people are fascinated to the point where now they are compelled to do research. Michael jackson dies.. everyone listens to his muci and does research. But when he was born, it was never a case of "Baby Michael was just born to loving parents". People don't care about that kinda stuff. See what I'm trying to get at there?

Originally posted by RideTheLightning89

Originally posted by GodIsPissed
You know what bugs me?That why would Osama's death cause a retaliation?Why wouldn't America invading their country killing thousands of innocent civilians to catch one guy who had nothing to do with 9/11 cause retaliation?

You must understand and be open to the idea that these acts may not have actually been committed by Osama and his "crew" of Al Quaeda rebels. Al Quaeda doesn't even exist, it's a database. So if that's true, is it a fair bet to say taht Osama doesn't exist either? Like one other poster said on here, a fake media creation defending ANOTHER fake media creation.

So who exactly is making these threats on the "al quaeda website"? (which still needs to be linked by the way!) Obviously, somebody committed those attacks on 9/11, and if it was supposedly a Midle Eastern terrorist group, the U.S could EASILY come forward with the bright, eye-wincing neon orange flight recorder boxes found in the carnage of those planes. But oh I forgot, those were NEVER recovered *rolls eyes*

Maybe that's because the real murderers are the ones residing in that building behind the ridiculous buffoons waving American flags. It's a disgrace.

Al Quaida was initiated as a database of Muslims willing to sacrafice themselves as Jihadi ie. suicide for their religion.

This database has evolved into factions / wings / groups, both geographical and in terms of levels of involvement, ie. active / inactive etc.

The muslim nations are not the same as western nations, it is an entirely religious based culture and society, a religion which is foreign to christianised western nations.

For hundreds of years Muslim nations have lived this way of religious fervour. Such fervant religious observances of this nature in muslim lands are anathema to western civilization. Many muslim nations and other nations of extreme governing such as certain communist and dictatorial governments have been destroyed due to their inhumane practices, either from within or initiated from the likes of NATO and other international agreements. Despite atrocities against their fellow humans and mostly women, a lot of these nations are still adhering to their practices.

Perhaps the ideology behind the current zeitgeist is that of humanity defending humanity against atrocity.

Some of the more extremist Muslim factions such as Al Quaida chose actively reacting against westernised humanity, which resulted in such acts as 911, 7/7 etc.

If those non believing in such factions would do some research, even google or other search facilities, would find other non MSM reports of their involvement that substantiates their existence and attempts at exerting power over those in their own and other nations.

Just because if isn't on America's doorstep doesn't mean it isn't there.

For example:
www.guardian.co.uk...
www.atimes.com...
news.yahoo.com...

Al-Qaeda is working with the CIA, actually the CIA created Al-Qaeda.

reply to post by GodIsPissed


Oh and I definitely agree that the government should prove it if there is nothing to hide. I'm still mostly neutral on this issue, because neither side has shown hardly any proof of their case.

oops double post

as far as I know, there are only 2 eye witnesses to the events that night that lived to tell about it, and one of them, his daughter, said he is dead

so we have an eye witness, his followers, and navy seals all corroborating each other that he is dead

are there any conspiracy enthusiasts with the integrity and credibility to simply state that he was alive until the seals got him ?

reply to post by HazyChestNutz


Once again do you have any evidence.

reply to post by kevinunknown


How can you attack the sceptics in this manner. Sceptic have every right to not believe in this story, they have every right to question what their government tells them, they in-fact help in some way control the power of those in power better then the judical and legislative branches at time. Can you really blame a sceptic when this administration, -the one before that and the one before that and the one before that lied to them. Can you really blame them when presidents who are paraded as great men such as Teddy Rosevelt where really imperilistic liars. Can you really blame them when their government lies them into war. Can you really blame them when the official story has more holes then swiss cheese. If the government didn't disband probes and investigations into 9-11 and allowed independant sources to verify the cause of the destruction, then can you blame them for not believing what government officials- who have continuosly lies to them- say?

The USA , the UK and many other western countries (TO ME) need war to happen.

1 Missile fired cost £1,000,000 Minimum. Lets fire 1.
Some UK company gets an order for 1 missile + Some extra surplus JUST IN CASE.

Company Order value £?,000,000(,0?)

Lets fire some more and give another company an order. That will boost our economy a bit.


Now what else can we spend( I mean Fire) ??


Usama Bin Laden's DEATH ?? Is away to .......To explain ? .....(couldn't think of a word) The costs of the war. And to let all the people know that the cost was worth it. But the war on terror is not over. We had TERRORISTS arrested at a Nuclear power plant. UK can carry on FIRING !!!