Rapture is real but your probably not going!

reply to post by James1982


First, the original post wasn't about other religions. It was about Christianity. If you chose to post off-topic that is YOUR fault.

I skipped to the bottom to see if there was a point in reading this entire post and there's not. You're still attempting to state what God(if there is such a being) will and won't do based on your childish belief that a written law, which the Bible is, will bend and be broken like some sort of bell-curve.

The bottom line is, as far as Christianity goes-which is the topic of this thread, if you don't believe/accept Jesus as your Lord and Savior you won't go to heaven. Period. Its stated in black and white in the Bible. The Bible also says no amount of good deeds done can get you into heaven without said belief and acceptance and to insinuate that there's some sort of tally that you can reach that will earn you a pass without Jesus is 100% wrong. Period.

So yes, you are very much adding your own views to the Bible that weren't there or even hinted at being there AND pushing them off as some kind of pseudo-fact when it clearly goes against what the Bible says plain as day. If the conversation wasn't specifically about Christianity, I wouldn't have bothered replying to begin with but it is.

If you want to flip the Bible's words, add acceptions that aren't there and spread the notion that "the rules don't really matter, God will see that you're a good person, don't worry about the Jesus part", my friend, that is on you.

Once again, let's take your logic and apply it to citizenship. If the laws to becoming a US citizen say you must do a, b c. Then you strangely come along and spread the rumor, "Well guys, America is great and loves everyone, so you don't REALLY have to do a, b, c. Just show them you're a generally good person that works hard and I guarantee they'll give you that green card because a grand country like this wouldn't stick by the laws it made to keep order and set a standard for citizenship and deny you citizenship." ...see how invalid that logic is? Imagine how many immigrants would look at you in a very pissed off manner because you just ruined their chance at citizenship over of your baseless hunch that rules/guidelines don't REALLY matter.

You're saying "I know the rules are there buuuut... more than likely you don't have to follow them and someone will just let you slide, I'm sure of it." That is an immature state of mind.

**** TL;DR VERSION ****

These verses straight from The Bible specifically address people such as yourself:
Ephesians 2:8-9
Tit 3:5

And lastly, this verse warns people, like you, of twisting what the Bible says and possibly confusing others who may be truly trying to be Christians:
Galatians 1:7-8

If you don't accept what the Bible says, fine. That is 100% your choice. But its written there in black and white, there's no arguing that and "opinions" don't matter and have no weight on something that is clearly stated. Your logic and ideas on the specific subject of Christianity/Heaven is wrong.

If you're a Christian on this board, do not listen to this man. He is wrong regarding Christianity and The Bible.

If God were truly going to take the good and innocent, I would imagine he would only take infants, because they are the only ones not polluted by this world of greed, hate, and lies.

So my guess is, everyone on the internet talking about rapture, should all have the same fate, whether they are for it or against it, or just don't believe in it.

I ain't going. Not if the weirdos that think they're going are going. Forget it. Those people give me the willies. If the choice is being with those nuts and rotting in hell, then hell it is. I'd rather fry than suffer douche-chills for all eternity.

And I will be watching it from the lawn of the liquor store down the street watching it happen. If I am not at my bar watching it from the patio.

I thought, and I could be wrong, the Bible said something along the lines of... No one will no the time and place, not even the angels, but God alone.

How's this guy know?

reply to post by pellian


All made up. Read here:

The doctrine of a secret rapture was first conceived by John Nelson Darby of the Plymouth Brethren in 1827. Darby, known as the father of dispensationalism, invented the doctrine claiming there were not one, but two "second comings." This teaching was immediately challenged as unbiblical by other members of the Brethren. Samuel P. Tregelles, a noted biblical scholar, rejected Darby's new interpretation as the "height of speculative nonsense." So tenuous was Darby's rapture theory that he had lingering doubts about it as late as 1843, and possibly 1845. Another member of the Plymouth Brethren, B.W. Newton, disputed Darby's new doctrine claiming such a conclusion was only possible if one declared certain passages to be "renounced as not properly ours." Sandeen writes, "this is precisely what Darby was prepared to do. Too traditional to admit that biblical authors might have contradicted each other, and too rationalist to admit that the prophetic maze defied penetration, Darby attempted a resolution of his exegetical dilemma by distinguishing between Scripture intended for the Church and Scripture intended for Israel. . . . Darby's difficulty was solved by assuming that the Gospels were addressed partly to Jews and partly to Christians." Thus, the doctrine of the separation of Israel and the Church, the foundation of dispensationalism, was born out of Darby's attempt to justify his newly fabricated rapture theory with the Bible. Dispensationalists believed justification for carving up the Scriptures came from 2 Timothy 2:15 (KJV) "rightly dividing the word of truth." Subsequent dispensationalists divided the Scriptures in terms of categories of people: Jew, Gentile, and Christian. Chafer taught that the only Scriptures addressed specifically to Christians were the gospel of John, Acts, and the Epistles! Pettengill taught that the Great Commission was for the Jews only.

www.sullivan-county.com...

The Origin Of The Pretribulational Rapture Theory
www.theologue.org...

The Rapture Is False Doctrine
www.macquirelatory.com...

Well, I hope not,. that would really tick me off,.
Since I specifically asked to stay here till the end..
I asked to be witness of it all. cause what the hell,..
it not like you get to see the end of the earth every day ya know.

reply to post by notimportant


i wasnt speaking for a religious view point when i think about history i bring all religions into my thoughts when i think about science all religions are a posibility that are unproven rather than something im focousing on. to expand knowlage/Wisdom you must be able to have multipul ways of thinking.

Originally posted by AmrikazNightmar3
I thought, and I could be wrong, the Bible said something along the lines of... No one will no the time and place, not even the angels, but God alone.

How's this guy know?

Exactly.

reply to post by pellian


If you believe in rapture - this is what you must believe;-

Those who bare allegiance to Christ, or God are going to be sucked up to heaven, or paradise and many non-believers being driven by believers in vehicles - Are going to be killed.

Sick bastard that God is.

reply to post by awake_and_aware


Hahaha, thats number 2 for today...

You're on a roll

reply to post by Akragon

you fail at life

I fail at life, remember?, don't be given me no stars, i'm a damn life failer!!

Originally posted by awake_and_aware
reply to post by Akragon

 

you fail at life

I fail at life, remember?, don't be given me no stars, i'm a damn life failer!!

haha i'll give you a star if you make me laugh, no probs with that...

I wouldn't worry about "failing" at life though... i don't believe you can read that passage and not agree its correct.

Of course this is an assumption (our fav word) But its likely true

reply to post by Akragon

Of course this is an assumption (our fav word) But its likely true

No problem, i'm assuming you're a paedophile. Just a likely assumption.

Slander isn't a nice game to play is it? And i thought you were Christ-like?

Originally posted by awake_and_aware
reply to post by Akragon

 

Of course this is an assumption (our fav word) But its likely true

No problem, i'm assuming you're a paedophile. Just a likely assumption.

Slander isn't a nice game to play is it? And i thought you were Christ-like?

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Very nice...

Well at least i don't need to assume here.... Breaking your moral code again are we?

Do me a favor, save your dickishness for someone who attacks you.

Or are you just being a dick for fun?



ahh...perhaps you're a child... never thought of that honestly

reply to post by Akragon


Your posts speak volumes. I wasn't straying from my own moral code, I have no reason to think you're a paedophile, I was just playing your little game with you.

Thought i'd teach you a little lesson, that's it not nice to resort to crude assumptions because you lack any decorum or any coherent argument against a position.

I'm not like Jesus - and neither are you - It's evident that you don't "turn the other cheek". Besides, i thought it would be funnier not to

You're not doing a very good job of proving my wrong - Preaching Christ and then acting like a child

Originally posted by awake_and_aware
reply to post by Akragon

 

Of course this is an assumption (our fav word) But its likely true

No problem, i'm assuming you're a paedophile. Just a likely assumption.

Slander isn't a nice game to play is it? And i thought you were Christ-like?

edit on 9/5/11 by awake_and_aware because: (no reason given)

WTF are you talking about man?

reply to post by Akragon


You've already replied to this.

You said i failed at life

I responded with another assumption.

Thanks.

Originally posted by awake_and_aware
reply to post by Akragon

 

Your posts speak volumes. I wasn't straying from my own moral code, I have no reason to think you're a paedophile, I was just playing your little game with you.

Thought i'd teach you a little lesson, that's it not nice to resort to crude assumptions because you lack any decorum or any coherent argument against a position.

I'm not like Jesus - and neither are you - It's evident that you don't "turn the other cheek". Besides, i thought it would be funnier not to

You're not doing a very good job of proving my wrong - Preaching Christ and then acting like a child

edit on 9/5/11 by awake_and_aware because: (no reason given)

Oh so that was supposed to be funny...

Once again you clearly do not read or remember my posts. I told you i don't "turn the other cheek" I attack when attacked. As i've said, im learning.

Im also not trying to prove anything to you, im answering your questions.

I don't usually resort to name calling when my arguements arn't going as planned.

But if you chose to be an ignorant prick, i have no need to talk to you anymore.

So shall we be civil or children? ...dick!

Remember im not asking you questions, you're asking me... If you don't want my answers....why ask?

Originally posted by awake_and_aware
reply to post by Akragon

 

You've already replied to this.

You said i failed at life

I responded with another assumption.

Thanks.

Im sorry its true, thats exactly how everyone should treat each other... If you disagree your life will be miserable, fill your life with love, and it will be beautiful