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Originally posted by lestweforget
reply to post by chr0naut
A more realistic view would be that NASA is only publishing amateur astronomers that agree, since when do NASA publish anything that they do not agree with? Seriously what a weak post!
Originally posted by Logman
I can't wait unt until Elenin passes by and then every doomsdayer can be laughed off this site.
You tube hoaxers and doomsday cultists? Really? Is that what you really think? So what term do you have for us regular ATS members who like to discuss the possibility we are not being told the truth or the full story by our illustrious leaders?
Its obvious why we are regularly here, why are you and Weedwacker and Stereologist and a few other clingons constantly returning as soon as someone recieves some support for a post? Like clockwork!
Does an alarm go off in your office when the word Nibiru is mentioned on ATS?
What do you bring to these topics other than what you have been told by NASA?
To NASA sceptics such as myself you bring nothing!
I doubt you believe you are here to provide a necessary service, to help the misguided see the truth. Look at all your posts and stars where are all your flags? Have you ever posted a personal theory? Thats right you bring nothing but textbook material. How do you keep up with NASA and their constant alterations?
You will not persuade those here that know we are being lied to constantly by NASA but thats not your intention, its to misguide the curious or new members who find their way here for alternative information.
Originally posted by solargeddon
Small question, as NASA have now announced this in their newsletter (I love the way they say "You might have heard by now" , Why did this not make the mainstream too, like the asteroid YU55, if it is so harmless ?
A former member of the Nazi party, commissioned Sturmbannführer of the paramilitary SS and decorated Nazi war hero, von Braun would later be regarded as the preeminent rocket engineer of the 20th century in his role with the United States civilian space agency NASA
In his 20s and early 30s, von Braun was the central figure in Germany's rocket development program, responsible for the design and realization of the deadly V-2 combat rocket during World War II. After the war, he and some of his rocket team were taken to the U.S. as part of the then-secret Operation Paperclip
NASA career
The U.S. Navy had been tasked with building a rocket to lift satellites into orbit, but the resulting Vanguard rocket launch system was unreliable. In 1957, with the launch of Sputnik 1, there was a growing belief within the United States that America lagged behind the Soviet Union in the emerging Space Race. American authorities then chose to utilize von Braun and his German team's experience with missiles to create an orbital launch vehicle, something von Braun had originally proposed in 1954 but had been denied.[48]
Originally posted by OverMan
reply to post by AlwaysStoned
I can do the same thing to "GOD" that I did to "bacon and eggs", if you wish?
Since this thread deals with NASA then I will add a juicy tidbit for your further consideration, please...
Originally posted by ngchunter
Originally posted by OverMan
reply to post by AlwaysStoned
I can do the same thing to "GOD" that I did to "bacon and eggs", if you wish?
Since this thread deals with NASA then I will add a juicy tidbit for your further consideration, please...
This thread is about a comet. Discussion about the NAZI origins of a NASA rocket scientist is not relevant to the subject at hand. Wernher von Braun, controversial though he may be, is not representative of NASA or even NASA's manned spaceflight programs as a whole and has absolutely nothing to do with Elenin whatsoever.
Originally posted by OverMan
Yes, IGNORE NASA' origins as that is irrelevant.
Yes, IGNORE the fact that NASA is literally filled with Nazi's and is MOST DEFINATELY an arm of the MILITARY INDUSTRIAL COMPLEX.
It was a russian that spotted Elenin and you dont trust the russians do you?
Not very uhm "intuitive" are you?
So much for Denying Ignorance!
Originally posted by ngchunter
Over short time scales associated with this apparition there's no need to account for it; it's too small an effect. If it weren't, astrometric measurement of the comet's position would be inconsistent with its orbit and make it impossible to compute valid Keplerian elements for the comet. My measurement of the comet's position just a couple nights ago showed it to be exactly where the orbit said it should be.
Originally posted by OverMan
reply to post by ngchunter
I do not HATE Nasa, nice strawman attempt.......
The title of this thread is "Comet Elenin: A news letter from NASA" so I have every right to question the Source.
Actually Questioning the Source should be a Duty of all those who believe that they are truly Denying Ignorance.
Go now and EMBRACE IGNORANCE as you have shown yourself perfectly capable of doing so here...
Really...... it is very evident and so is your level of pseudo intelligence.
Originally posted by Flawless Logic
Thank you for the answer, but I still dont quite understand.
This burst is supposed to set in as Elenin gets nearer and passes the sun, so it would not have any large effect on simulations YET, correct?
Furthermore, if NASA finds it "very difficult" to simulate the movement, because the comet is "chaotically moving", how can anyone be SO certain that their simulations are correct?
"It's hyperactive, small and feisty," said mission scientist Don Yeomans of the NASA Jet Propulsion Laboratory.