The System Hates Whites.....And I Can Prove It

reply to post by daskakik

If there is a history of unfairly stereotyping people in a specific community, then I'd say don't suck it up.
I'm sure they have organizations in the US to address it, or one can form one?

No, if you have a fair complaint I'd say don't suck it up.

Not that I want to unfairly pick on Vicky (I think she actually tried to make some really good points somewhat out of context and got the debate a bit heated), but she didn't specify her gender/race/class connections, but she argued that white women and non-white races have it hard (and I see she's from New Zealand, so her points on the US are just as dodgy as mine) and you can't tell me a white woman would be stopped as often as a Latino or black man in the US, even if they are all neatly dressed.

I've been stopped by cops, and its been reported that our cops assault white people with racial slurs.
They also assault other people - it shouldn't be acceptable for anyone to endure.

We cannot suck it up for ever.
Whites and millions of blacks fled from Zimbabwe, mainly to our country.
If it goes like that here, where will we flee?
The ocean?

But actually you're right.
We do suck it up.
The police brutality in the new SA.
Everybody sucks it up.
The empty promises and luxury lifestyles of the black politicians.
We all suck it up.
The corrupt R60 Billion arms deal of the ANC - we suck it up.
The global racial abuse against whites and academic lies and contradictions.
The white and colored people suck it up.
Just the black people riot and demand services.
So it is crucial for the ANC to deflect that anger onto another group...

reply to post by halfoldman


Fair enough but you do understand that raising my voice if I feel I have been wronged is part of the system. At least when it is working as it should. I had no problem sucking it up because it was a small thing and the cops where very polite and professional. I was trying to point out how easy it is to play that card by either side.

I agree that there are things or times when you must stand up and fight against something that you feel is wrong but I think the OP is being overly sensative and also many of the things on his list are wrong.

reply to post by daskakik

Not quite sure I understand, especially about the OP, please be more specific, where exactly is he being over-sensitive?

Being white is tight, I don't know what kind of bunk ass level y'all on.

reply to post by halfoldman


1. Some bad guys in movies are bound to be white but it's a stretch to say it's 98% of the time.

2. I have seen many instances of white pride being celebrated (Irish, Italian, Polish, German parades). 4th of July parades in the US are celebrating American culture which inlcudes all races. Now those parades held by the White Pride groups that believe in separate but equal or worse. Yeah they get attacked.

3.When I was in school all we read about was all the important discoveries and inventions white men had made or created. Downplayed? I don't think so.

4.The only real atrocities that I remember from school were the Native americans, the holocaust during WWII and Pol Pot. Recently the media has covered Bosnia, Congo, Guatemala, Rwanda, Tibet and others. Doesn't look like they are saying only whites are evil.

reply to post by Lysergic

Being white is dreadful.
You're excluded from all the old privileges (nobody even cares what you thought in the past), you have to watch systems collapse because ideology rules over competence, and if you make a white baby he will be told from kindergarten how he introduced chauvinism, inequality and genocide into the world.
Not only will a white (or anyone not female or dark enough) child be told they only harmed the world, and be given a chip on the shoulder for life, they will be the new underclass.
Perhaps it's not as pronounced in other places as here, but it's coming already.

I mean before whites there was gender equality everywhere, and women were treated like gold.
Everybody had bling and dressed in designer clothes.
There was effective Western medication and food for all.
There were houses and plumbing and toilets - but the wicked whites stole that all.
There was no massive human sacrifice, cannibalism and slavery.
Whites created that in their fantasy, and suddenly stopped it.
(Sarcastic paragraph)

Everybody would be better off if the world was run by Muslim extremists, or tribal patriarchs.
Women and gays would all have rights, and tribal people could remove other other tribal people freely in land distribution (just like the Tswana are removing the Bushmen to this day).
Wonderful - we could all keep camels and donkeys to buy wives and tolerate the lice in our eyebrows.
White is whack.
That's why nobody wants to be white, or use stuff invented by white people.
That's why we won't have police brutality, because in most non-white states you really have to suck it up and never mention it again, unless you want to disappear forever.

Well I don't let any of that get me down, cause we still running the show.

reply to post by daskakik

Well maybe you're right.
That's all very specific to a time and place where you had textbooks.
I'd say the discourse here in current SA is probably quite different to most.
Under ANC schooling most kids finish school as functional illiterates in any case.
But they'll always remember that apartheid's Bantu Education is to blame.

reply to post by halfoldman


here is some good ol' privilege still going on


we can kick Muslims off planes because they make us feel uncomfortable.

It's just now you have to be nicer to the minorities you all spat on pre 1960 pre1980s

But now you've got muslims to pick on whenever feeling inferior.

www.abovetopsecret.com...

Originally posted by halfoldman
Under ANC schooling most kids finish school as functional illiterates in any case.
But they'll always remember that apartheid's Bantu Education is to blame.

That is part of the divide and conquer strategy.

Lysergic knows what's up. He knows damn well they still running it. Just gotsta get the puppets in place.

Originally posted by daskakik
reply to post by halfoldman

 

1. Some bad guys in movies are bound to be white but it's a stretch to say it's 98% of the time.

2. I have seen many instances of white pride being celebrated (Irish, Italian, Polish, German parades). 4th of July parades in the US are celebrating American culture which inlcudes all races. Now those parades held by the White Pride groups that believe in separate but equal or worse. Yeah they get attacked.

3.When I was in school all we read about was all the important discoveries and inventions white men had made or created. Downplayed? I don't think so.

4.The only real atrocities that I remember from school were the Native americans, the holocaust during WWII and Pol Pot. Recently the media has covered Bosnia, Congo, Guatemala, Rwanda, Tibet and others. Doesn't look like they are saying only whites are evil.

edit on 8-5-2011 by daskakik because: (no reason given)

Movies - haven't done a real study. My feeling as a younger, more liberal student was the opposite, and that the black or yellow 'peril' was usually stereotyped. However, I have noticed a marked change in that US minorities are always innocent or justified, and white cops are violent and corrupt.
Never-mind cops - that's all eventually justifying a system of power over all.
But I have noticed a trend making out white teens as generally fake and unsavory characters who are all rich.
As such they are actually corrupting the other races to sell them drugs.
It's like the stereotype of drug pushing in reverse.
A horrible but popular genre.
Then we have US "War porn" about Iraq and Afghanistan, which neither discusses Islamic radicalism or army psychology.
One is just waiting for another bomb to pop its nut.

Parades - aren't those ethnic parades? Why see them as generically white parades?
Interesting that various ethnic community parades are marked as "white".
Are other races and ethnic groups segregated from partaking?

School - it's good that you're learning of inventions, but are these inventors really touted as "white inventors"?
What do they learn on Rwanda and China?
That could be framed in many ways.
Whites invented socialism (although many would not admit that) and they created Rwanda, by forcing the poor Hutus and Tutsis into one country.
But that's not true, the Hutus and Tutsis already hated each other long before the tiny white administration.
In most discussions of that horrible genocide blacks are given the idea that they are wholly not to blame (although it wasn't the first explosion of that, and it mirrors conflicts across Africa).
And because they shift ultimate responsibility, it happens repeatedly.
It is never taught in a way where blacks, or black Africa must face itself, like Germany had to face itself after the holocaust.
The blame is always shifted, from French machetes to British colonials, to the UN, to US news-rooms.
Nobody can tell Africans that THEY are capable of a genocide!
Oh dear, the poor angels.
Oh and then Pol Pot, in my books it says it was because the nasty Americans bombed Cambodia.
They were not to blame for what they did in their country, not one little bit.
So there are subtle varieties of truth to every story, and one can blow up the "white guilt" proportion to enormous levels.
Ultimately a people or movement that is truly peaceful will not kill, and incorruptible people will not be corrupted.
So a lot of that history is a post-1970s cop out.
It's teaching the new generation of Pol Pots what argument to use as an excuse.

But ultimately school is just a foundation.
People are really radicalized at universities, and this is where opinion becomes infused with social dominance and ideology.
What academia means sometimes gets taken out of context in politics.
But that is where most politicians learn their discourse.
And all that humanities' students learn there for three years is how wicked the whites and males are.
Sure it can be subtle, and few take it far enough to really learn thinking and not just parroting.
But where else do people learn things like: white males have it easy, and women and blacks are equally oppressed?
Or stuff like: "all cultures are equal" (especially the ones no white woman ever wants to live in).

Sure it's good to learn tolerance.
But it's not good to find only one social devil - the white male - when you walk out.
I'm not saying everybody does that, but a lot of youngsters do.
I did at a stage.
The start of postmodernism was good, it wanted to look at the "other" - the person usually silenced by white male academia.
But that was 30 years ago, and my concern is that when people become "anti-white male" (even white male students) that they will no longer be proud of the positive things in their culture, and they will let in open dictatorships simply because they are from other cultures.

reply to post by Lysergic

I've never spat on a minority or any person.
In fact, in SA I am the minority.
(There are 4 million whites in a population approaching 50 million blacks.)

I was in my first year at University when what remained of apartheid officially ended in 1994.

reply to post by halfoldman


Great contributions halfoldman.

Maybe you've already mentioned it, and I hope this won't sound rude, but why are you still in SA?

We knew of a SA couple who left 20 years ago, just wondering what your motivation to stay might be, and perhaps why the other 4 million whites that are still left are sticking it out. I'm not trivializing something like emigration, it is huge, but after reading how bad it is today, I feel like I would leave.

JR

reply to post by JR MacBeth

Thanks man, I can't answer those questions on a public forum...
But let me say that South Africa still rocks.
The day I can no longer criticize and moan is the day I'm going (not sure where, but I'm going).

But, as long as we have freedom of speech (well, mostly) and democracy I'm still home.

The people of SA are actually amazing, and I think any plans to break us in the near future will fail.

reply to post by halfoldman

Movies - Say what you like over 98% white males as villans is false.

Parades - ethnic parades where the people who make up that ethnicity are white makes them a celebration of white culture.

School - Edison, Ford, Franklin, Pasteur, Bell, Colt, the Wright Brothers, etc. All obvious white males and taught about in school at least up to a decade or two ago.

The other part refering to genocide is the media and the short list I posted are stories the media has covered so no one is saying only whites can do bad things.

reply to post by daskakik

Well then I'm glad you see it that way.

reply to post by halfoldman


If it's just a matter of seeing things a certain way then those that are overly sensitive will always feel like they are being picked on.

Whatever the case I don't really think the system hates anyone in particular.

reply to post by daskakik

The system actually hates everybody.
It's just a matter of demonizing one group and making them an issue.
They can do that with one news report.
And white people are also at risk of that, and for me that is what this thread is about.

Originally posted by halfoldman
reply to post by daskakik

 

The system actually hates everybody.
It's just a matter of demonizing one group and making them an issue.
They can do that with one news report.
And white people are also at risk of that, and for me that is what this thread is about.

I agree that is why I said that it doesn't hate anyone in particular.

White people are also at risk. Are you supposed to be immune or above this?

reply to post by daskakik

No, but sometimes we need to look at things from another angle
I think the NWO has some vicious plans for white minorities.
Now most people (I sometimes feel) think its OK to do horrible things to white people because they caused all the crimes in history (yeah right).