The System Hates Whites.....And I Can Prove It

Originally posted by halfoldman
What's the point of going into intellectual ideas of "US hegemonies" or painting wicked monsters as "good" just because they are anti-Western (basically anti-white)?
That's the crap that students are fed.
An evil man is an evil man in 2011.
There is NO excuse.
And the people who support evil men are morally bankrupt at worst, or living in glass houses at best.

I agree but that type of thinking is not PC it is the other end of the political spectrum of what you are saying when you claim that they don't appreciate what western society has given them. Like I said there was good and bad. If you focus on either you are not wrong but you are getting an incomplete picture.

reply to post by daskakik

For sure, most of colonialism was not a humanitarian project, and quite dreadful.
Neither were colonial wars always native vs. white.
The Anglo-Boer Wars in SA were white colonial wars, with the first use of the term "concentration camps".
The British put thousands of Boer people into those camps.

I'm speaking more of a postmodern/liberal ideological stream that is currently prominent in higher education (and therefore filters into all kinds of mediums where college students have degrees, although some also question it).

Here black kids are told we took everything from them, and we prevented them from advancing.
They are not given another context at all. (For example that both in health and education, blacks made their greatest stride forward since whites moved into the interior, about 120 years ago - they falsely call it 300 years of "apartheid/colonialism").
What is even more surprising is that liberal academia supports this completely, and actively shuts out dissenting voices.

As long as America exists,the "New World Order" or a "One World Government" cannot exist since Americans ae unconciously "elitists"...we ae richer and better off than most of the res of the world....so one way to break us to a 2nd or 3rd world level is to use "racism" to take what we have and give it to unworthy drones....to break the Middle Class...and thats what they are doing....and racism is the best excuse.....

For myself the conspiracy of silence, and selective moralism amongst Western intellectuals, liberals and socialists (based on simplified racial polemics) is well illustrated in the book: Inside Quatro: Uncovering the exile history of the ANC and SWAPO by Paul Trewhela (Jacana Books: 2009).
The bulk of the book concerns an examination of the ANC and other southern African liberation movements' gulags and torture camps, and the local and global liberal conspiracy of silence around the issue.
In 1984 some MK soldiers of the ANC led a mutiny to demand more democratic decision making in the partially KGB trained movement. Their loyalty was never in question, but they dared to question the totalitarian power of the movement's undemocratic elite, who were living the corrupt high-life in Lusaka, funded by Western liberals and nefarious activities like drug running. For this "crime" they were falsely accused of being traitors to the "struggle", and tortured in some of the most inhumane "prison pits" ever described. So while the ANC ran it's "democratic" propaganda, it was involved in torturing, executing and working people to death in Quatro and other gulags in Angola and Tanzania. Most of these people were their most loyal supporters, who merely wanted a discussion on reforms, since the exiled MK was largely ineffective in fighting for change in SA.
Some surviving exiles were intimidated, assassinated and even burnt to death upon their return to SA since 1988, while Winnie Mandela spearheaded a brainwashed youth club that intimidated the black townships into submission for the ANC.
During the world tour with her former husband, the liberal press not once questioned her on such capital crimes.
Other leaders like Thambo and Hani knew of the camps, and fully endorsed them.
Amnesty International had to be "threatened with exposure" before it investigated the camps, as a few socialist activists wanted to inform the world, and safeguard SA's truly democratic future from similar abuses. The world of course, was run by a liberal academia that was not willing to listen to anything concerning black on black violence in the name of stalinist tyranny.
Even the liberal Council of Churches was involved in the cover-ups.
Trewhela painfully points out:

The campaign provided a painful lesson in the lack of concern for human rights among socialists and liberals, when relating to nationalist and stalinist politics in southern Africa. ... At a meeting in the London School of Economics in February 1992, a leading officer of the RCP (Revolutionary Communist Party), suggested from a platform that I 'deserved a bullet' after I had spoken to the meeting about the ANC prison camps. Two-thirds of the audience, members and supporters of the RCP, cheered vociferously.

(Pp. 64-65)
The worst was the silence of Nelson Mandela concerning a letter written by former inmates of ANC torture camps (Mandela being a "saintly" myth created by the SACP, who was imprisoned under a fair trail for over 150 acts of terror and treason, who never forswore violence and whose grandson is involved in the corrupt Aurora mine saga, and who was bizarrely personified as the face of a struggle against white racism above the other Rivonia trialists).
The press inside and outside of SA is similarly largely disinterested, although the despotic politics of resentment are clear today in the ANC - one thinks of the deference for Mbeki's Aids denialism, Malema's blatant racism, veiled threats in townships against those who vote for opposition parties (usually veiled in religious allegory), an increasingly brutal police force, and the untouchable nature of corrupt individuals connected to the ANC elite.
The fact that most of the planet still believes the "Mandela myth" and other propaganda is a symptom of ideological racism, in which only white capitalists can be wicked.
They want to believe this (no matter what the evidence), because it seconds their mental conditioning.

reply to post by halfoldman

The fact that most of the planet still believes the "Mandela myth" and other propaganda is a symptom of ideological racism, in which only white capitalists can be wicked.

Another very informative post halfoldman, I'm learning a lot about South Africa I didn't know before.

You're right about the Mandela myth, and in the US, we have enshrined Martin Luther King, Jr. similarly. No one is interested in hearing about their crimes, their sainthood has already been made official, streets have been named after them, the children are taught PC versions of history that will seldom be questioned.

In SA, perhaps one can see why the propaganda has such strength, but shouldn't Americans wonder why it has such sway in the US as well? And of course, worldwide there is established the cult of the black hero, that isn't questioned.

I wonder what the minority white people are doing to combat this propaganda in SA, but not just out of mere curiosity. Perhaps they (you) are discovering useful countermeasures that we might all use as well, to start pushing back more effectively.

Considering the terrible crimes that this propaganda has helped cover up, I would think more people would be interested in fighting it.

Worse, if we continue to collectively turn a blind-eye, shouldn't we expect even more horror in the future?

JR

reply to post by JR MacBeth

You raise many crucial points.
I think this thread has really raised some proven conspiracy issues/debates that should be on the main ATS page (I mean, non of this is a rant).
Much food for thought in your post.

What I could shortly add is that the liberals always say: "We shouldn't see the world in black and white".
But the irony is that they are seeing the world, and its atrocities, very much in selective black and white.

The other irony is that they think they really help black people by not criticizing them, or damning white people in post-colonialism.
The sad truth is that millions of people die because of their ideological blindness and political correctness.
Often, the very people they want to help by ignorantly screaming "racism"!

Worse, if we continue to collectively turn a blind-eye, shouldn't we expect even more horror in the future? JR

Yes, I do think so.
For every productive white (and sometimes black) farmer that leaves Africa, more pressure builds on Western countries with immigration.
But until now the immigration debate is more about locating those "horrible racists" who want sanity restored to the liberal madness.

Very little to nothing is focused on making the countries that immigrants are fleeing from better.
That would be racist interventionism (oh the irony).

reply to post by JR MacBeth

On the Martin Luther King myth ...
I consider the Rev Jesse Jackson a good example of somebody robbing the poor, robbing the taxpayer, and all in the name of civil rights and countering white racism.
So typical of the ideology.
www.skeptictank.org...

And the worst is - it's been exposed, many times.
Since the times of Mobutu it's been exposed!
But lets just selectively ignore it.

Originally posted by AngryOne
2) Why is it that White Pride is always VICIOUSLY attacked on the media, while all other forms of racial pride are left alone?

Not left alone. Other forms of racial pride are widely advocated and endorsed.