The System Hates Whites.....And I Can Prove It

Originally posted by momoneyI think I know what they believe> racial purity, the Fourth Reich and the extermination of 'useless eaters'.

What do you think skinheads believe?

What I know they believe is that they are against race-mixing, they do not want a regimented society, and they do not believe in the extermination of retarded people, the aged, the handicapped, if that's what you mean by "useless eaters". As far as extermination of non-Whites, only in the case of facing extermination themselves. They are very diverse in their beliefs as to forms of government. Of course with skinheads, you're talking about young people, so they tend to be more about passion than, say, constructing a new philosophy. Which is understandable, because as time goes on, it's clear that the world we live in is going to involve brutality on a scale never before imagined. Many simple either-ors are going to take precedence over subtleties. Organized White racists tend to want things to be resolved by negotiation, but that probably isn't going to be a choice.

reply to post by grizzle2


I never asked them.

It is what I saw by the way they carried themselves.

reply to post by AngryOne


I'm going to give you the benefit of the doubt and assume you aren't just ranting and that you truly are asking for answers. Most of your questions have pretty non-racially motivated answers to them if you are willing to step away from your perspective:

1) Why is it that whenever "racism" is explored in a movie or on TV, the culprit is always, ALWAYS portrayed as White (generally a White male)?

That's not being fair nor accurate. I've seen proportionally less racist issues tackled from a minority's view-point but they do exist. Even GTA tackles racism being perpetrated by minorities. It's mostly white people because, well face it, it's mostly white people who have racist views. They even have little dress-up clubs where they where bedding over their heads and pat themselves on the backs for being born.

2) Why is it that White Pride is always VICIOUSLY attacked on the media, while all other forms of racial pride are left alone?

Because white pride involves Nazi imagery and KKK ties almost every single time. "White" is not an ethnicity, it is an exclusion of other ethnicities. You can have an Irish pride day or a Dutch pride day and those are rarely viewed as racist. But "white" people aren't a people any more than "brown" is a people. Black ancestry comes from a fairly homogeneous culture so it is a celebration of something in particular; not a dislike of something else.

3) Why is it that at least 98% of TV/movie villians are White males?

This is because 98% of everybody in movies are white. It's pretty consistent with demographics.

4) Why is it that the media is so very biased when it comes to reporting - or not reporting - certain crimes? Just do a search on these words: "Black Serial Killers".
Furthermore, why is it that very many non-Whites are actually classified as White in crime statistics?
BTW, hate crimes are committed against Whites regularly....you just never hear about it.

Interesting you brought this up. When somebody talks about suspects, they never mention color unless he's black. I think you might have this backwards. It also depends on the media outlet. Obviously Fox will be quick to point out a perpetrator is not white while MSNBC might be a bit more PC about it.

5) why is it that White achievement (including that computer you're using now) is always downplayed and ignored?

What would you like to see? I'm confused by this question.

6) Why is it that the media and education system are always bringing up well-known "atrocities" committed by Whites (as if ALL Whites are responsible for such things) while completely ignoring evils committed by non-White peoples?

Really? Just about every instance where one ethnicity subjugates and racially "cleanses" another, it is committed by one white culture or another. In Africa, there are old tribal tensions (caused by European colonialism, mind you) that lead to this same sort of genocide but doesn't get attention. So you are right, they don't talk about it much but putting a spot-light on that would have the opposite effect I believe you are hoping for.

In short, man... I don't think you understand that you are not a "white race". You are Dutch. Be proud of that. I never hear of racial profiling of Dutch people by cops or the media. You are a victim in your own head.

This has been a problem for a very long time. If we had White History Month, WET (White Entertainment Television), NAAWP, or ANYthing else with the label white attached to it it's considered racist. In fact white people are pretty much forced by TPTB to conform to a different way of living because of it. It's not just blacks either. Spanish people are taking over and if you don't believe me there are Spanish stores on every block now and most stuff you get from the store is now labeled in English and Spanish. I don't even want to go into the Customer Service lines that you have to push 1 for English. If you can't speak the language then either learn it or leave. There is no reason why we should be forced to change. When an American goes to other countries do you see them conforming to us? Of course not. I'm just sick of EVERYONE who plays the racist and hate crime card. I was raised in the ghetto around many different types of people and I was a product of the environment. As soon as I was old enough I got out. I'm just sick of seeing black this and spanish that... Maybe I should walk around with a KKK shirt like the idiots who didn't even know who Malcolm X was or what he was about, but sported his shirt with racist intentions. Say what you will about white people but we aren't the ones with our pants around our ankles riding down the street in old hoopties with cartoon characters on them and 22" wheels. If you have a right to your colored culture, then what happened to our right for ours?

I'm just saying...

Being a "white" has its up sides but i assure you many more downsides. For example I was born and raised in a predominately black community. Going to school and being the only white child in class was traumatizing. Often in history your race is scorned for being intolerant of others. Although much of what is taught in public schools is extremely inaccurate. The whites are now paying for the sins of their ancestors as well as the sins of every other race in the world. Its because blacks were taught to hate us in schools as well as those listed in the op. The crash of America did not begin recently but back when black and whites were forced to go to school together causing friction that goes on still today distracting the true goals of education. Both the blacks and the whites suffered tremendously in learning because of the actions of a few that insisted it was the right thing to mingle the two together.
Now rather than the average American getting smarter we all have gotten more and more ignorant and spoiled by the government over compensating for what they think is a race that still lags behind. Instead of lagging our generation suffers for the status quo of we need to be sympathetic to the victims. No one born here in the USA suffered from being a slave. Rather than claiming we are all the same i think the resolution is to admit our differences because forcing races to try to behave the same is what has caused racism and the crash of our educations.

In short, man... I don't think you understand that you are not a "white race". You are Dutch. Be proud of that. I never hear of racial profiling of Dutch people by cops or the media. You are a victim in your own head

reply to post by Cuervo


see i disagree with you here, if you are white then yes infact you are part of the white race, but your ancestory lies somewhere else just like if you are black you are part of the black race but again your ancestory lies somewhere else

you also talked about white pride being only with kkk or white supremist, i have pride in the white race and im not a kkk member or a white supremist, i also have pride in the black race. why isn't it ok for someone to have a white pride parade but on the other side it is ok for someone to have a black pride parade?

Because white pride involves Nazi imagery and KKK ties almost every single time. "White" is not an ethnicity, it is an exclusion of other ethnicities. You can have an Irish pride day or a Dutch pride day and those are rarely viewed as racist. But "white" people aren't a people any more than "brown" is a people. Black ancestry comes from a fairly homogeneous culture so it is a celebration of something in particular; not a dislike of something else

you say white is not an ethnicity then this would also mean that black is not an ethnicity because black people come from other countries then, if that is true instead of a black history month then they should just have days like ethopia pride day or kenya pride day am i not right?

reply to post by Cuervo



Cuervo: It's mostly white people because, well face it, it's mostly white people who have racist views. They even have little dress-up clubs where they where bedding over their heads and pat themselves on the backs for being born.

-Blacks have clubs too, along with every other race, you'd know that if you looked for two seconds.


Cuervo: Because white pride involves Nazi imagery and KKK ties almost every single time.

-That's kind of the point of this whole thread, the fact that the system is brainwashing people to view a strong white man as a nazi.


Cuervo: Interesting you brought this up. When somebody talks about suspects, they never mention color unless he's black.

-Really? I must have watched some sort of alternate dimension TV.

Cuervo: What would you like to see? I'm confused by this question.

-He is referring to the medias celebration of all things accomplished by non-whites.


Cuervo: Really? Just about every instance where one ethnicity subjugates and racially "cleanses" another, it is committed by one white culture or another. In Africa, there are old tribal tensions (caused by European colonialism, mind you) that lead to this same sort of genocide but doesn't get attention. So you are right, they don't talk about it much but putting a spot-light on that would have the opposite effect I believe you are hoping for.

-There have been countless genocides committed by every race upon their own and other races. This is just ridiculously nonfactual.

Cuervo: In short, man... I don't think you understand that you are not a "white race". You are Dutch. Be proud of that. I never hear of racial profiling of Dutch people by cops or the media. You are a victim in your own head.

-Would you tell a person who said he was proud to be black, that he's wrong, there is no black race, he should be a proud Ugandan?

reply to post by grizzle2


Question:

When slavery was abolished, and AA's had to endure another 100 years of lynching segregation, social oppression, acerbic legislation, and complete degradation... where were the whites who were slaves with us?

Were they victims of the same abuse?

So is this a class issue? Maybe, at first. But then it evolved into a RACE issue.

Whites of antiquity really believed that Negroes were below them and less than human. It was first legislation but it then transformed into a belief system.


Disclaimer: Yes there were American whites against the ill treatment of blacks. But let's be real here, that was a SMALL percentage.

Originally posted by caf1550

In short, man... I don't think you understand that you are not a "white race". You are Dutch. Be proud of that. I never hear of racial profiling of Dutch people by cops or the media. You are a victim in your own head

reply to post by Cuervo

 

see i disagree with you here, if you are white then yes infact you are part of the white race, but your ancestory lies somewhere else just like if you are black you are part of the black race but again your ancestory lies somewhere else

you also talked about white pride being only with kkk or white supremist, i have pride in the white race and im not a kkk member or a white supremist, i also have pride in the black race. why isn't it ok for someone to have a white pride parade but on the other side it is ok for someone to have a black pride parade?

Because white pride involves Nazi imagery and KKK ties almost every single time. "White" is not an ethnicity, it is an exclusion of other ethnicities. You can have an Irish pride day or a Dutch pride day and those are rarely viewed as racist. But "white" people aren't a people any more than "brown" is a people. Black ancestry comes from a fairly homogeneous culture so it is a celebration of something in particular; not a dislike of something else

you say white is not an ethnicity then this would also mean that black is not an ethnicity because black people come from other countries then, if that is true instead of a black history month then they should just have days like ethopia pride day or kenya pride day am i not right?

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The main difference that you missed is that "black" ancestry come from Africa which is very homogeneous, culturally. So black people are of "African" descent. White folks are extremely varied and are not of the same ethnicities. To say that all lighter skinned people are under one "white" racial umbrella is kind of insulting. I am what I am, I'm not every other white ethnicity out there.

reply to post by Q2IN2Y

Whites of antiquity really started to believe that Negroes were below them and less than human. It was first legislation but it then transformed into a belief

whites of antuquity also thought that jews, christians, asians, germanic tribes and so on were also below them
yes after slavery was abolished the AA's as you call them when in fact they are just americans did go through a lot of awful things, look at it like this also, the south just lost the war and one of there biggest ways of making money IE slave trade so of course they would lash out

a black person after the civil war could hold the same jobs as an white person, they were able to vote and they were treated as citizens of the united states like that should have been, im nto saying they didn't go through hell because they did

The main difference that you missed is that "black" ancestry come from Africa which is very homogeneous, culturally. So black people are of "African" descent. White folks are extremely varied and are not of the same ethnicities. To say that all lighter skinned people are under one "white" racial umbrella is kind of insulting. I am what I am, I'm not every other white ethnicity out there

so white people don't mostley come from europe? look how close the greeks and the romans are, or how close german gothic and french gothic are what about the enlightenment age that swept through europe everything that came out of there was pretty much the same thing

what you are saying go against what you want to say...what you sare saying is white people are not a race but they are just people who come from countries while black people are a race because they come from the african continent im confused though aren't there countries throughout that continent just like there are countries throughout europe? how is one a race and the other not a race?

Alright I'm not going to argue this any further. My blood boils when I think about the past.. I probably had a former life during the civil rights movement or something.


LOL let's find some 2012 threads.

reply to post by Tephra


Again, you misread. I fully understand there are cases of genocide committed by Africans. In fact, I said it in the quote you just used from me but I think you missed it. My point was that shining a light on African genocide would also be shining a light on European involvement during the colonial era before and after the industrial revolution.

Go ahead and study those atrocities. Then study why they happened. Let's just say that NOBODY comes out of that era smelling like roses.

reply to post by Q2IN2Y


The ignorance of our forefathers remain on our shoulders today. Not to defend any of the evil that once was,but if your taught by your parents to believe one way that is a nature that is instilled in our youth and normally a belief that remains. For me as a christian because i was raised that way if someone told me God did not exist i take offense.

I think most of the hatred began when people were told that they are all the same. Its not true we are not the same we are different ,but all deserve to be a free people.

If you put a king snake in a cage with a rattle snake because they appear the same you dire results.

Originally posted by Q2IN2Y
reply to post by grizzle2

 

Question:

When slavery was abolished, and AA's had to endure another 100 years of lynching segregation, social oppression, acerbic legislation, and complete degradation... where were the whites who were slaves with us?

Were they victims of the same abuse?

So is this a class issue? Maybe, at first. But then it evolved into a RACE issue.

Whites of antiquity really believed that Negroes were below them and less than human. It was first legislation but it then transformed into a belief system.


Disclaimer: Yes there were American whites against the ill treatment of blacks. But let's be real here, that was a SMALL percentage.

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so whats your solution? looking at this your basicly saying we diserve to be treated as lesser beings because a VERY SMALL persentage of white folks hunderds of year ago did something quite bad

it adds upto you want revenge and we should just accept it

oh and i thought you never post in these threads

Originally posted by Cuervo

The main difference that you missed is that "black" ancestry come from Africa which is very homogeneous, culturally. So black people are of "African" descent. White folks are extremely varied and are not of the same ethnicities. To say that all lighter skinned people are under one "white" racial umbrella is kind of insulting. I am what I am, I'm not every other white ethnicity out there.

So let me get this straight, is Europe some kind of second rate continent? From which Whites cannot claim ancestral background? Is that only a privilege people descended from Africa can claim?

Just make some sense please.

Originally posted by Cuervo
African genocide would also be shining a light on European involvement during the colonial era....

You are really, really, stretching. So what about genocide before European influence. What about Asian Genocide, what about Slavic Genocide? All whites?

I must say from reading start to finish that this is an absolutely disgusting thread. So much hatred and ignorance from all sides.

Some of you blokes need to take a long, hard look at yourselves.

Originally posted by Tephra

Originally posted by Cuervo

The main difference that you missed is that "black" ancestry come from Africa which is very homogeneous, culturally. So black people are of "African" descent. White folks are extremely varied and are not of the same ethnicities. To say that all lighter skinned people are under one "white" racial umbrella is kind of insulting. I am what I am, I'm not every other white ethnicity out there.

So let me get this straight, is Europe some kind of second rate continent? From which Whites cannot claim ancestral background? Is that only a privilege people descended from Africa can claim?

Just make some sense please.

Why don't you ask a Norwegian and a Swedish person that same question. You are missing the key word: "homogeneous" which is what Africa is (or was). Europeans are not "second rate" just because they are varied. I always thought that made them pretty cool. You are taking offense over something that should be celebrated: diversity. Europe has tons of it.


ps - to answer your edit: I don't think that all genocide was by white people. I keep saying that. I'm simply answering why the rest of it is not in day-to-day conversation. The other cultures you mention are, in fact, in history text books, genocide and all. It's not hidden.

Originally posted by Cuervo
The main difference that you missed is that "black" ancestry come from Africa which is very homogeneous, culturally. So black people are of "African" descent. White folks are extremely varied and are not of the same ethnicities. To say that all lighter skinned people are under one "white" racial umbrella is kind of insulting. I am what I am, I'm not every other white ethnicity out there.

really? because here in england our job application forms you only get to choose white unless you from some mid east country or africa then you can put you country of origin. it so thay can give more racial quota spots to non-whites

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I remember reading Malcolm X's autobiography and he mentioned that his JHS teacher told him "Being a lawyer was no realistic goal for a 'n-word'".


What makes the atrocities of ancient American Whites so despicable in my opinion is that not only did they strip AA's of culture, identity, way of life, all sense of self-confidence and security, they continued to degrade them after freedom. They didn't let them find themselves.

Continued to find ways to hinder their growth.. mocked them, laughed at them; brushed off their achievements, musically and in other aspects... and when the AA's stood for what their independence and personal power, they got enraged and violently attacked them even more.

Blacks wanted to separate.. they hated that. Blacks wanted to integrate, they hated that even MORE

The whites of antiquity were your classic abusers.

So....

Public TV vilification for a few decades is ok. Wouldn't you say that's a good trade off considering your past? LOL