Opinions needed about demonic forces regarding my son who is only 7.

I really hope this thread dies soon. I don't think anyone is going to prove that they are right with their religious beliefs.
First and last time I am posting something of personal nature here. I was asking for opinions on paranormal things and since I am religious, I personally believe that demons exist. Which is why I used the word demon. I do not for one second think my child is possessed. I do not plan on visiting an exorcist. I probably won't even try to contact any priests or pastors. I have asked for prayers and guidance from members of my church. I see nothing wrong with this. Whatever you believe in, it's all positive energy. And positive energy in what ever form you believe it to be, never hurt anything. It may not always help, but it doesn't hurt.

Also for those who didn't bother to read the post, We've had every test IMAGINABLE ran on him. EVERYTHING. Specialist after specialist. We met with a team of five doctors in January and went through 3, 8 hour days of extensive testing. There is not one thing abnormal. Except he is extremely sensitive to lights, smells, sounds, and touch. So do NOT for a minute say that I am not doing anything but "seeking advice on a conspiracy forum" I simply wanted some out of the box opinions. And maybe some related experiences. I am not ignoring doctors advice, I'm not sitting here at my computer hoping for a diagnosis or a cure, I am not using my faith in place of proper medical care. Right now my faith is about the only thing holding me together. I am a single mother to two great little boys. One who has had health struggle after health struggle since he was born and he still manages to be one of the happiest kids I know. So yes, when times get rough, I rely on my faith because some days, that's the only place I can find solace. I do not let it cloud my judgment though. I know Jesus isn't going to float down here and heal my child. We live in a world where actual miracles are far and few between.
I think a lot of people on here saw RELIGION and CHILD and started attacking without even reading or considering the situation.

I do really appreciate the posts filled with insight. Some were very kind. And it's also great to know that others have suffered from these types of headaches, even as a child. (Not great that you had to go through it, but you know what I mean) I have been worried SICK about him. Is it a tumor, is he going to end up having a stroke, is it going to continue getting worse each time, etc. He simply has extremely severe migraines. Hopefully when he is older, he will be able to take medication for the pain and maybe as a preventative. As a child, there isn't much I can give him besides childrens ibuprofen and he doesn't hold it down. This may be a life long struggle for him and it breaks my heart.

I am still uncertain about paranormal activities. We do live on old Native American land. His father struggled for years thinking he was under the reigns of Satan. His mother is into occult practices. My dads side of the family is from the south and into all the voodoo practices. I do hold a lot of anger and bitterness so I'm sure I'm a host for negative energy. So there could be a lot going on there. For the time being, I'm going to adjust MY attitude about things. I don't want to subject my son to praying and ridding whatever I think is going on. He is WAY too young for that and his imagination will carry him off. I think that will do much more harm to and for him than good. He can remain blissfully ignorant as far as "evil" goes for many more years! But from gathering all of everyones information and taking a step back, I think my fears are feeding into it. Whether it be simply paranoia or an actual entity, my fearing this is just adding fuel to the fire. I will continue to pray for protection. And I will continue to ask others (who offer) to pray for my sons HEALTH and guidance for the doctors.
Thank you everyone for your helpful advice.

reply to post by ampar84


Please look at the environment you live in. If the doctors cannot find anything in your childs brain causing this do not assume it is spiritual the problem.Your sons symptoms are physical not mental. What your son may have is a reaction to something near him or he is exposed to daily. Was your son vaccinated? I have two children who became mentally disabled due to vaccinations. Do you live near large EMF's? Do you live near a chemical or nuclear facility? Lead paint affected how many children before they outlawed it. What chemicals are they using at school for cleaning or on the play fields? Hormone levels can also cause migraines. I have dealt with spiritual issues in my profession for many years and your sons case does not appear to be of that nature. The doctors can only search for what you tell them. It is up to you to investigate what your son is reacting to and have the doctors test. You must keep yourself strong and in good shape if you are going to deal with your sons issues. Please do not fast etc it will not help you. I know coming to the forum is a desperate measure as a parent. Think outside the box. If traditional cat scans etc are showing nothing then look to how green is your sons environment. Talk to people who deal with chemicals etc and reactions on the human system.
I wish the best for you and your family.
Sallie

reply to post by ampar84


Theres a few possible medical reasons for what your son is experiencing. However without being able to examine a patient physically I wont make an attempt at diagnosis. Recommend patience and find a competent physician there to assist you - as a physician trained in both western medicine and tcm (traditional chinese medicine)
Without a proper and thorough examination of the patient there is no way to make a diagnosis and plan of treatment that would be effective. Hope that your son gets well.
Apologies for my rusty english and limited advice but its best that can offer.

I am so sorry that you feel hounded and are annoyed with this thread.

I just wanted to extend my sympathy - I am sure I am not alone in this. I know there are many people on ATS who truly care about what is happening to you and I am one of them.

I also occasionally hear voices - always positive! It's like I have answers whispered to me.


Meniere's disease was just whispered to me as I read this thread. It can cause drop attacks (seizures)

All of my love to you and your son.

To think that God would let demons attack a little child is a strange belief. God does not allow this. He does, however, allow sickness on Earth. I would have more faith in the goodness of God, and take the kid to a doctor, for CHRIST'S SAKE!

reply to post by ampar84


I suffered from similar things when I was a boy and on into my teens and early twenties. That was many years ago. I found out through much study over the years that it was indeed demonic. Most people automatically want to believe that it is a medical problem, especially in this day and age, because it's easier to take some pills. If those pills don't work, try some different pills, and on and on and on. Please don't misunderstand, it may be medical, but from my experience, based on what you have said so far, it sounds demonic.

The Bible clearly teaches that these types of things can be passed on from generation to generation. If your husbands mother was into the occult....that could be the start of it. Have you tried to find out if his grand parents or possibly great grand parents were involved in the occult? If so, it could have started with them and is being passed down through your husbands blood line. All of us pass on to our offspring what ever our beliefs are and what ever we are involved in, good or bad, whether we realize it or not.

Please do not discount these things...it is REAL! I know, I've been there. It does not matter if you and your husband were never married, by the worlds standards, meaning a marriage license. In God's eyes you are married to your husband.

There are many good books that have been written dealing with this subject, most if not all are older books. One of the most informative books I have read on this subject is called "Between Christ and Satan" by Kurt E. Koch. He has personally dealt with thousands of people that have been involved with the occult or have suffered from the effects of someone in their family being involved in the occult. You can pull it up on Google and read the contents, also please read the foreword. Another good author on this subject is Derek Prince.

In my opinion it will do very little good to discuss spiritual things with your doctor. Anymore, most doctors are just prescription writers.

It's obvious you care deeply about your son. I commend you for not giving up.

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but from my experience

And that would be.... BSc? MD? PhD? Doctor?

Originally posted by Griffo
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but from my experience

And that would be.... BSc? MD? PhD? Doctor?

Credentials are a bad thing now a days remember?

OP, I hope you've seen the use of actually using forums like this and asking personal questions. The internet is loaded with criticism, superiority and lack of compromise.

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I understand where you are coming from on this thread. Being a Christian, and have been involved with spiritual warfare myself, you may be very well right. He may in fact be afffected by demonic influence. The reason I say this is your referance to his grandmother(?) being involved with occultism. I'll have to get out my old Bible, but there is a verse which roughly comments on "the sins of the fathers will be influence in the 3rd and 4th generation". Take that as you will, but it is common to see peoples characters and "demons" in their grand and great grandparents.

That said, there is some important things you need to do. Read the New Testament. Fervently. Take all that Christ and the Apostles say, and put them into effect, especially in regards to using the name of Jesus to rebuke Darkness. But please, read it, and add it to your life. Just my suggestion, its what I have to deal with everyday too. The spiritual world is just as relivant, if not more than, our physical world.

No wonder church attendance is down. Be a Christian and your kids get attacked by evil forces. God must be really mean, best to avoid him/her.

I would go for the mental illness. But it could only be temporary. There is chemical imbalances due a lach of certain minerals and proteins and waht not that can contribute to symptoms whick look like mental illness but isn't as well. As for the religion thing, I'm an athiest so my opignion might not matter but if Satan were to exist, who says he's evil besides the vatican.

Originally posted by ampar84
MODS please feel free to move this where appropriate. I'm not sure if this falls under "paranormal" or "spiritual or religious"


My sons father has struggled with hearing voices since he was young. He has expressed always feeling that someone or something is around him constantly.

He had the weird look in his eye like his father use to get.



Why do you keep referring yourself as "My sons father" or "the weird look his father use to get" ?? Are you the biological father or do you just like to refer to yourself in the third person?

Originally posted by JaeBea

Originally posted by ampar84
MODS please feel free to move this where appropriate. I'm not sure if this falls under "paranormal" or "spiritual or religious"


My sons father has struggled with hearing voices since he was young. He has expressed always feeling that someone or something is around him constantly.

He had the weird look in his eye like his father use to get.



Why do you keep referring yourself as "My sons father" or "the weird look his father use to get" ?? Are you the biological father or do you just like to refer to yourself in the third person?

Reading the statements, logic would dictate that its the mother speaking here.

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Physical surrounding possible causes or influences.
Are you near any cell phone towers or energy plants-asking because of their potential physical effects.
Do you have radiation input devices like-cell phone-cable-internet-online gaming that bring multiple transmitting frequencies inside your house? I noticed these keep a field with them when all present in 1 household.
Have you checked for Radon exposure?
Do you know of any underwater sources below you home?
Has he been checked for any parasites that can be contracted from outside play with small open wound?


Spiritual surrounding possible causes or influences.
When he is in spells does he still remember Christ and can he say his name like Christ loves me?
Is or was there a near by graveyard once part of the land mass you currently live upon?
Past family could of allowed entrance from their practices.

If physical potential causes dont exist then try to:
As a mom acknowledge you have electromagnetic field around you as does your sons and their father, encourage your field strength to support and protect. Embedd within your field YOU ARE NOT AFRAID AND WILL PROTECT YOUR SEED ON THIS SIDE AND OTHER physical and spiritual embedd meaning except you WILL protect and send this strong vibe out from internal visualize the vibe like a sphere around you equally being dispensed out as far as your mind can push it, its good just if you can fell it around your house or push this vibe/energy as far out as you can whats 1 more energy dissolved if you can. You must believe this that you are his protector of flesh and spirit and wish to dissolve any weak energy around him. Make this energy feel your rage and presence is 100,000,000x fold worst then what ever it may be around your seed and your spirit CAN reach anything wishing to harm your seeds and that you have no fear of what energy it can be no matter how big it feels or evol it feels it is. I know its a lil wierd but its hard for me to explain but I hope you get that basically you want IF there is evol energy around your seeds to know back off for you are not in fear of it and do possess a POSITIVE spirit that can turn destructive if pushed wrong. Good Luck and hug em overwhelm his field with yours or enhance his field with yours. Let it know its not welcome and will pay if things continue for you possess a spirit that can eventually access that realm.

Note: you dont gotta walk around mean to scare it or attempt to be evol. Just gather all your energy and find a way to calm it all into a vortex when you reach vortex your mind is ready your spirit is ready to send message thru neutral conduit not evol or angry conduit, emotionless but sending the pure vibes why you are in deep thought considering eliminating the pest energy.

Be well

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Of course you have....do you know why this is OP? Because only religious nuts have this type of crap happen to them. Every single person who is a religious nut has demons or is afraid of demons or witchcraft, or the occult. It feeds from your own paranoia.

Your son clearly has an issue, but it has nothing to do with the paranormal. The same thing has happened to many other people and they eventually find out it had something to do with a gas leak in the home, lead paint, vaccinations, mercury poisoning, or something else in their environment, or a disease they have.

How long did his seizure last? Did you call 911 when it happened? Why did they say he had a seizure? How many seizures has he had? They had to give you a diagnosis. Complex migraines are often accompanied by throwing up and diarrhea, but when accompanied by seizures, it is often a sign of epilepsy. 70% of people who have partial complex seizures have migraines, but most people who have migraines do not have seizures. So he could be having seizures when you didn't even know it, like in his sleep. And getting severe migraines as a result.

Also....a persons face will change with a migraine and also with a seizure or in any type of severe pain. It is a much more likely explanation for these things than "demons". What do you do when he has a migraine? Do you give him tylenol? Did the doctors put him on a medicine for it?

Here this may help...

www.webmd.com...

Originally posted by restlessbrainsyndrome
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Of course you have....do you know why this is OP? Because only religious nuts have this type of crap happen to them. Every single person who is a religious nut has demons or is afraid of demons or witchcraft, or the occult. It feeds from your own paranoia.

Your son clearly has an issue, but it has nothing to do with the paranormal. The same thing has happened to many other people and they eventually find out it had something to do with a gas leak in the home, lead paint, vaccinations, mercury poisoning, or something else in their environment, or a disease they have.

How long did his seizure last? Did you call 911 when it happened? Why did they say he had a seizure? How many seizures has he had? They had to give you a diagnosis. Complex migraines are often accompanied by throwing up and diarrhea, but when accompanied by seizures, it is often a sign of epilepsy. 70% of people who have partial complex seizures have migraines, but most people who have migraines do not have seizures. So he could be having seizures when you didn't even know it, like in his sleep. And getting severe migraines as a result.

Also....a persons face will change with a migraine and also with a seizure or in any type of severe pain. It is a much more likely explanation for these things than "demons". What do you do when he has a migraine? Do you give him tylenol? Did the doctors put him on a medicine for it?

Here this may help...

www.webmd.com...

Excellent point made on the seizures. My brother did suffer from seizures but they were quite mild if you werent actually looking at him or talking to him you wouldnt know. But if you were looking at him, it was like a blank stare (very frightening in how blank it was) and he wasnt able to speak or acknowledge you really.
The human brain is such a frightening and amazing thing with what it can do to us if there is something wrong.

Hi to the OP.
I'm New here but I'm an old Messianic Jew, if all the tests have come up negative and there is no organic reason for his illness and given the history of the father, then he is must likely under an attack of the forces of darkness.

You must act quickly and seek real Christian help or Messianic group help if any in your area.
I have done this hundreds of times in the last 50 years so this is not new to me.
A prayer chain must be created on behalf of the boy and you and your home, a home blessing is in order here, reading the Psalms of protection such as psalm 91, playing worship music in the house all day even if low.

And getting the boy to call on the messiah, specially using his correct name which is not Jesus but "Yeshua"
and you as well.

I struggled with this in my own family with my grandson all his life was a struggled with teh forces of darkness which his mother had brought upon him.

So much so was the attack that we saw dark figures in our house and bedroom and even voices, so move on to doing what I tell you as this is the only way to keep him free.
If you want to PM me his name I will place him on prayers, peace

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Sorry, late to this thread. Have you looked into "Benign Childhood Epilepsy"?

Here's one link, there are many available sites that get into this.

Benign Childhood Epilepsy

Here's an excerpted quote:

These disorders are idiopathic, occur in otherwise healthy children, and have (with rare exceptions) a strong genetic component.

I hope you find out what is causing the problems for your son. I tend to think that the answer lies in a yet to be diagnosed medical condition.

Take care, best wishes!

PS My son had this. We fortunately had it diagnosed on the very first seizure by a pediatric brain specialist. My son outgrew this as is the norm. He is now a hulking and highly intelligent young man, a college athlete.

Originally posted by raip11sniper
Demons are real and your priest will not think you are crazy. It is common for demons to haunt people do to their being occult activities in their family or due to the sins of their ancestors.

Yes... demons are real. And so are high-tech religious GANG STALKERS who want to terrorize people in their attempt to promote their political/religious agenda. Fact.

Originally posted by Lemax
Hi to the OP.
I'm New here but I'm an old Messianic Jew, if all the tests have come up negative and there is no organic reason for his illness and given the history of the father, then he is must likely under an attack of the forces of darkness.

You must act quickly and seek real Christian help or Messianic group help if any in your area.
I have done this hundreds of times in the last 50 years so this is not new to me.
A prayer chain must be created on behalf of the boy and you and your home, a home blessing is in order here, reading the Psalms of protection such as psalm 91, playing worship music in the house all day even if low.

And getting the boy to call on the messiah, specially using his correct name which is not Jesus but "Yeshua"
and you as well.

I struggled with this in my own family with my grandson all his life was a struggled with teh forces of darkness which his mother had brought upon him.

So much so was the attack that we saw dark figures in our house and bedroom and even voices, so move on to doing what I tell you as this is the only way to keep him free.
If you want to PM me his name I will place him on prayers, peace

Who verified that ALL tests were done. They normally dont do tests in which diagnoses they arent searching for. Once a plausible diagnoses has come up, tests can be made so that way no unnecessary tests are done to the patient.
In order to find out my mothers diagnoses they had to do a muscle biopsy and look for "ragged red fibres" in the muscle tissue. This is not something they would of done right away based on her original symptoms, which was mistaken for chrons/ulcerative colitis for over 20 years (her main symptoms clearly hitting the mark for these two things) but the nature of that illness is still hard to diagnose. She went deaf rapidly (7 weeks) and that is one of the more affirmative symptoms of the disorder. Once that was done they did the test and confirmed it.
No mysterious powers were used, just alot of faith, and will that we would come to an answer eventually. Demons arent causing her condition, a genetic defect is. Now as im not religious, my mother is and does pray to god for strength in her trials but she does not expect a cure from it, she has more common sense in the real world then that.
No matter what we all say in this thread, its superfluous anymore....the ONLY thing the OP should do is walk away from this thread (which i think she has already i hope). Dont let the doctors control you....educate yourself, and in turn, dont let religion control you....educate yourself.