Can An Alien Spicies "Accidentally" Invent Warp Travel, Come Here And Be Hundreds Of Years Behind

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What if flees are actually aliens?

??? Oh, you mean fleas....

Well, considering that possiblity, is only scratching the surface.......

....see???

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"Die! Evil tiny aliens from Uranus!"

Originally posted by weedwhacker
reply to post by troubleshooter

 

What if flees are actually aliens?

??? Oh, you mean fleas....

Well, considering that possiblity, is only scratching the surface.......

Typical typological error...

Originally posted by weedwhacker
reply to post by troubleshooter

 

What if flees are actually aliens?

??? Oh, you mean fleas....

Well, considering that possiblity, is only scratching the surface.......

....see???

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"Die! Evil tiny aliens from Uranus!"

edit on 25 April 2011 by weedwhacker because: (no reason given)

You've got it all wrong again, that dog has alien worms not fleas.

Tiny aliens have tinier aliens that crawl on them and 'bite em'...
...and the tiniest aliens have even tinier aliens 'ad infinitum',

Originally posted by troubleshooter
Tiny aliens have tinier aliens that crawl on them and 'bite em'...
...and the tiniest aliens have even tinier aliens 'ad infinitum'

I thought it was turtles all the way down...

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Great sense of humor. Thanks for helping keep it light.

Along the same line of thinking, their technology could be just completely different from ours. Who's to say they don't have some sort of biological technology? As in, basically growing things like spacecraft. It was a concept in a series of books I read years ago.


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Originally posted by thelionofbabel
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That is very interesting that you say that. If fact it is very possible. However, flying through space requires various different types of technologies to work in sync together to purserve a lifeform during the trip. The most simple is light to see. Then there is protective measures from materials strong enough to be a shield from space debris. Navigation system of some sort... etc.

So even though a race found a way to warp travel, they would still need at least a few other basic forms of technology to survive. This is why i highly doubt we are more advanced. We may have technology they never thought of but not quite better.

Not sure if anyone else has said this but I saw your post and another above yours saying the same thing, that if they had the tech they wouldn't be less advanced than us but when I read the title and the OP the first thought I had was that a species far more advanced had traveled to our past, had a malfunction or accident and were no longer able to use such tech, that way making them less advanced than us.

Or am I the only one who thought that?

If they're Packleds.

They look for things... things to make them go.

reply to post by samstone11


In a universe of infinite possibilities, I can imagine dozens of ET's who would be considerably less advanced then we are, while still finding the key to travel over cosmic distances. Magic -- through a portal technology -- is my current favorite, but there are lots of others as well.

Great post, can't wait to read the replies!

Possible, maybe our science of space travel is flawed, maybe space travel science is different from what the general public is taught, maybe it's easier or harder than we are brought up to believe, maybe we are bound as a species to this planet. Interesting thought.

If a civilization is significantly different from us, then they could have developed a math system that has a different orientation than most of us are used to.

If you have a different take on math, then perhaps some problems would be easier to solve.

So, why not?

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I'm fully aware of Terrestrial Physicist's comments on all of these, you should remember that these theories are at least 17 years old. Also, because of the stratigic nature of this kind of stuff, further development in the form of "black projects" is highly likely.

I would love to be able to comment further on the Physics involved, but, I'm not a Phsicist, justa poo ole software engineer. Course if ya want to discuss control systems

It was explained to me, that the currently "findable" text on these subjects is very close to reality. In the case of warp drives, implementation leans much more to the impractacle, however, that is more a matter of development than anything else. I can only cite computer history here; but, at one time "super computers" were very large, limited systems that were replaced rather quickly by the microprocessor, and "grid" computing. At one time a machine that could achieve teraflops was considered a "pipedream", today, they are common. That time was around 20 years ago.
The days of the round Cray machines of the 80's are gone, and modern super computers sport hundreds of multi-core microprocessors, allowing them to do things that 20 years ago was impossible.

None of thoes theories needs to be exactally correct, just "close enough" to work with. I think all of them meet that standard.

It's an interesting question, and one to consider...especially when guessing as to vulnerability or the power of weapons, etc.

Something to consider...Just because someone has invented the gun, it still doesn't keep them from dying by a well-placed knife hit. The knife has been around since the caveman days, yet is no less lethal...

Perhaps that is what is preventing confrontation? Our weapons could be primitive (to them), but still very lethal...

However, even if warp capability was "stumbled" upon, to actually use it, they'd need computing power to predict things like objects in the way, etc. and other necessary technologies, so at least, we'd be on pretty equal footing. Who knows?

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Well,they do say that enough monkeys with typewriters given enough time could recreate the entire works of Shakespeare,so....just watch where ya leave that yellowcake!

Or more likely, A alien race planted some sort of stargate to travel to their planet, they discover it and find out how to use it.

Interesting OP :-)

WIth all the sightings over the last centuries (paintings with saucers, etc.) (Ancient Aliens, History Channel), and the general facts of sightings today being the same as centuries ago, I think there are two general possibilities for the civilization that seems to be visiting us (saucer-type sightings):

1. They have invented time travel and the saucers are time machines, therefore, we see evidence throughout human history.

2. They have hit a technological end-point - nothing else to learn. It can do everything the universe allows it to do and their knowledge is complete, they understand everything about the universe. And therefore, the saucers have been saucers for hundreds or thousands of years. No need to improve upon the design - it's perfect.

Just my two cents

Thinking about it, there is a 3rd alternative:

3. The saucer is some sort of logical step in the technological evolution (just like using wings for planes) and the saucers a few hundred years ago belonged to a different civilization than the saucers today

Originally posted by weedwhacker
reply to post by troubleshooter

 

What if flees are actually aliens?

??? Oh, you mean fleas....

Well, considering that possiblity, is only scratching the surface.......

....see???

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"Die! Evil tiny aliens from Uranus!"

edit on 25 April 2011 by weedwhacker because: (no reason given)

It's the Klingons!!!!

I think it's possible, with as much space is out there, and all the supposedly infinite dimensions. Then you got split offs for each decision anyone has made. Or even if that isn't the case and it only takes the major events that is still a lot of splitting. Plus I don't really believe in paradoxes. I think it would just lead to another split.

So why not, maybe some alien species discovered aerosol cans before the wheel -( Example from Hitchhikers Guide to the Galaxy.)

Plus look at us, there is things that the ancient people knew how to do, that we with all our knowledge and technology cant figure out or have forgotten, and I always hated the rational that because its the past, they cant be as superior to us.

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You are very close to what actually prompted me to start this thread. What I was considering is the possibility that ET could be very, very afraid of us because our weaponry is much more advanced than their own. Maybe they don't even understand the concept of hostility, or conversely, they are completely hostile but thought that a good war could be fought with sticks and stones.

The conclusion it brings me to is this: could they conceivably be far, far more advanced than we are in perhaps every technology except battle tools and/or technique? Would we then have a "window" of time while they catch up, or is it possible they could never comprehend enough of warfare or weapons to be a real threat? Lots of questions, and I realize it is more likely wishful thinking, but maybe............