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1And seeing the multitudes, he went up into a mountain: and when he was set, his disciples came unto him: 2And he opened his mouth, and taught them, saying,
3Blessed are the poor in spirit: for theirs is the kingdom of heaven.
4Blessed are they that mourn: for they shall be comforted.
5Blessed are the meek: for they shall inherit the earth.
6Blessed are they which do hunger and thirst after righteousness: for they shall be filled.
7Blessed are the merciful: for they shall obtain mercy.
8Blessed are the pure in heart: for they shall see God.
9Blessed are the peacemakers: for they shall be called the children of God.
10Blessed are they which are persecuted for righteousness' sake: for theirs is the kingdom of heaven.
11Blessed are ye, when men shall revile you, and persecute you, and shall say all manner of evil against you falsely, for my sake. 12Rejoice, and be exceeding glad: for great is your reward in heaven: for so persecuted they the prophets which were before you.
13Ye are the salt of the earth: but if the salt have lost his savour, wherewith shall it be salted? it is thenceforth good for nothing, but to be cast out, and to be trodden under foot of men.
14Ye are the light of the world. A city that is set on an hill cannot be hid. 15Neither do men light a candle, and put it under a bushel, but on a candlestick; and it giveth light unto all that are in the house. 16Let your light so shine before men, that they may see your good works, and glorify your Father which is in heaven. 17Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfil. 18For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled. 19Whosoever therefore shall break one of these least commandments, and shall teach men so, he shall be called the least in the kingdom of heaven: but whosoever shall do and teach them, the same shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven.
20For I say unto you, That except your righteousness shall exceed the righteousness of the scribes and Pharisees, ye shall in no case enter into the kingdom of heaven.
21Ye have heard that it was said by them of old time, Thou shalt not kill; and whosoever shall kill shall be in danger of the judgment: 22But I say unto you, That whosoever is angry with his brother without a cause shall be in danger of the judgment: and whosoever shall say to his brother, Raca, shall be in danger of the council: but whosoever shall say, Thou fool, shall be in danger of hell fire. 23Therefore if thou bring thy gift to the altar, and there rememberest that thy brother hath ought against thee; 24Leave there thy gift before the altar, and go thy way; first be reconciled to thy brother, and then come and offer thy gift. 25Agree with thine adversary quickly, whiles thou art in the way with him; lest at any time the adversary deliver thee to the judge, and the judge deliver thee to the officer, and thou be cast into prison. 26Verily I say unto thee, Thou shalt by no means come out thence, till thou hast paid the uttermost farthing.
27Ye have heard that it was said by them of old time, Thou shalt not commit adultery: 28But I say unto you, That whosoever looketh on a woman to lust after her hath committed adultery with her already in his heart. 29And if thy right eye offend thee, pluck it out, and cast it from thee: for it is profitable for thee that one of thy members should perish, and not that thy whole body should be cast into hell. 30And if thy right hand offend thee, cut it off, and cast it from thee: for it is profitable for thee that one of thy members should perish, and not that thy whole body should be cast into hell.
31It hath been said, Whosoever shall put away his wife, let him give her a writing of divorcement: 32But I say unto you, That whosoever shall put away his wife, saving for the cause of fornication, causeth her to commit adultery: and whosoever shall marry her that is divorced committeth adultery.
33Again, ye have heard that it hath been said by them of old time, Thou shalt not forswear thyself, but shalt perform unto the Lord thine oaths: 34But I say unto you, Swear not at all; neither by heaven; for it is God's throne: 35Nor by the earth; for it is his footstool: neither by Jerusalem; for it is the city of the great King. 36Neither shalt thou swear by thy head, because thou canst not make one hair white or black. 37But let your communication be, Yea, yea; Nay, nay: for whatsoever is more than these cometh of evil.
38Ye have heard that it hath been said, An eye for an eye, and a tooth for a tooth: 39But I say unto you, That ye resist not evil: but whosoever shall smite thee on thy right cheek, turn to him the other also. 40And if any man will sue thee at the law, and take away thy coat, let him have thy cloke also. 41And whosoever shall compel thee to go a mile, go with him twain. 42Give to him that asketh thee, and from him that would borrow of thee turn not thou away.
43Ye have heard that it hath been said, Thou shalt love thy neighbour, and hate thine enemy. 44But I say unto you, Love your enemies, bless them that curse you, do good to them that hate you, and pray for them which despitefully use you, and persecute you; 45That ye may be the children of your Father which is in heaven: for he maketh his sun to rise on the evil and on the good, and sendeth rain on the just and on the unjust. 46For if ye love them which love you, what reward have ye? do not even the publicans the same? 47And if ye salute your brethren only, what do ye more than others? do not even the publicans so? 48Be ye therefore perfect, even as your Father which is in heaven is perfect.
Originally posted by FeraVerto
What happened to the text?
Did you quote this?
Such is the bar we should strive to achieve, that we love our fellow man so much that we would die for them. If we all opened our hearts in such a way, what kind of world could we create?
Originally posted by Akragon
reply to post by IAMIAM
Such is the bar we should strive to achieve, that we love our fellow man so much that we would die for them. If we all opened our hearts in such a way, what kind of world could we create?
A perfect world!!
Beautifully said my friend... almost brought tears to my eyes honestly!
Quit doin that damnit!!
Originally posted by IAMIAM
Originally posted by Akragon
reply to post by IAMIAM
Such is the bar we should strive to achieve, that we love our fellow man so much that we would die for them. If we all opened our hearts in such a way, what kind of world could we create?
A perfect world!!
Beautifully said my friend... almost brought tears to my eyes honestly!
Quit doin that damnit!!
As I keep saying my friend, these are not my words, these are Christ's words!
Keep shining your light Brother. It is our only hope.
With Love,
Your Brother
I love this quote the most and it really jumped out at me. When I read this I felt a very strong connection and realized that this is how I feel inside. But I never really thought about it, like it was natural to me. I've always known that I'm a child at heart, and I always strive to be as neutral (passive) as possible and not judge or hold bias... But you really put it very eloquently and spot on. God is all around us; I DO see the fingerprints in every piece of creation, I just treated it as common knowledge and didn't really give it much thought.
The pure in heart have no bias. Bias is the impurity of the soul. When you are born into this world, you do not come with bias and judgement. That is something you learn through the struggles of life. When you rid yourself of bias and judgement once again, you see the world through the eyes of a child. It is a wondrous world full of so many gifts. What you see is God everywhere your eyes rest. You see his fingerprints in every piece of creation. You see the light of his being in every soul you meet. You feel love everywhere. Your only sadness is that others do not see this.
46. Jesus said, "From Adam to John the Baptist, among those born of women, no one is so much greater than John the Baptist that his eyes should not be averted. But I have said that whoever among you becomes like a child will recognize the (Father's) kingdom and will become greater than John."
Originally posted by IAMIAM
Such is the bar we should strive to achieve, that we love our fellow man so much that we would die for them. If we all opened our hearts in such a way, what kind of world could we create?
29And if thy right eye offend thee, pluck it out, and cast it from thee: for it is profitable for thee that one of thy members should perish, and not that thy whole body should be cast into hell. 30And if thy right hand offend thee, cut it off, and cast it from thee: for it is profitable for thee that one of thy members should perish, and not that thy whole body should be cast into hell.
Originally posted by traditionaldrummer
Originally posted by IAMIAM
Such is the bar we should strive to achieve, that we love our fellow man so much that we would die for them. If we all opened our hearts in such a way, what kind of world could we create?
We'd create one with a bunch of dead people and one living one.
29And if thy right eye offend thee, pluck it out, and cast it from thee: for it is profitable for thee that one of thy members should perish, and not that thy whole body should be cast into hell. 30And if thy right hand offend thee, cut it off, and cast it from thee: for it is profitable for thee that one of thy members should perish, and not that thy whole body should be cast into hell.
I picked one at random.
How is this good advice or even a representation of wisdom? Not only is he bringing in the pernicious lie of hell but (if we take it literally) instructs to damage one's body to assuage undesirable behaviors, or (if we take it figuratively) instructs us to unilaterally abandon undesirable behavior instead of learning to control it and live life productively. This is also fear-based advice: it's the commandment to do good to avoid punishment, not the advice to do good for the sake of doing good.
As I stated in another thread, the SOTM contains bad advice, has no underlying theme and some sections are contradictory to others.edit on 21-4-2011 by traditionaldrummer because: whargrbl
Originally posted by IAMIAM
The pure in heart have no bias. Bias is the impurity of the soul. When you are born into this world, you do not come with bias and judgement. That is something you learn through the struggles of life. When you rid yourself of bias and judgement once again, you see the world through the eyes of a child. It is a wondrous world full of so many gifts. What you see is God everywhere your eyes rest. You see his fingerprints in every piece of creation. You see the light of his being in every soul you meet. You feel love everywhere. Your only sadness is that others do not see this.
Originally posted by Akragon
It means you should have no hate in your life, theres nothing contradictory to the passage you just lack understanding of it.
How would you live life productively whilst hating things in your life? Hate solves nothing, and only perpetuates negetive emotions. You do Good for the sake of doing Good itself, it has nothng to do with punishment.
And the threat of "hell" is mearly a reference to reincarnation. IF you don't learn your lessons while you're here, you're coming back for another go... Many consider this to be their own hell...
Originally posted by traditionaldrummer
Originally posted by IAMIAM
Such is the bar we should strive to achieve, that we love our fellow man so much that we would die for them. If we all opened our hearts in such a way, what kind of world could we create?
We'd create one with a bunch of dead people and one living one.
Originally posted by traditionaldrummer
29And if thy right eye offend thee, pluck it out, and cast it from thee: for it is profitable for thee that one of thy members should perish, and not that thy whole body should be cast into hell. 30And if thy right hand offend thee, cut it off, and cast it from thee: for it is profitable for thee that one of thy members should perish, and not that thy whole body should be cast into hell.
I picked one at random.
How is this good advice or even a representation of wisdom? Not only is he bringing in the pernicious lie of hell but (if we take it literally) instructs to damage one's body to assuage undesirable behaviors, or (if we take it figuratively) instructs us to unilaterally abandon undesirable behavior instead of learning to control it and live life productively. This is also fear-based advice: it's the commandment to do good to avoid punishment, not the advice to do good for the sake of doing good.
As I stated in another thread, the SOTM contains bad advice, has no underlying theme and some sections are contradictory to others.
Originally posted by traditionaldrummer
Originally posted by Akragon
It means you should have no hate in your life, theres nothing contradictory to the passage you just lack understanding of it.
Jesus isn't talking about hate here.
How would you live life productively whilst hating things in your life? Hate solves nothing, and only perpetuates negetive emotions. You do Good for the sake of doing Good itself, it has nothng to do with punishment.
That is not the theme of this passage.
And the threat of "hell" is mearly a reference to reincarnation. IF you don't learn your lessons while you're here, you're coming back for another go... Many consider this to be their own hell...
No, Jesus is not talking about reincarnation, nor does he say we come back until we learn. He's talking about preventing certain behaviors to avoid the punishment of hell.
I'm uncertain as to how you arrived at these interpretations.
Originally posted by traditionaldrummer
I disagree. If you see god everywhere your eyes rest you are not "pure of heart" nor unbiased. You're either so biased that confirmation bias is in complete control or you've removed so many mental faculties that you're not interpreting reality in a rational manner. One can still stand in profound awe of the universe yet not interpret the emotional responses from this awe as being the love and presence of invisible deities.
Originally posted by IAMIAM
Have you seen the world we live in? I see dead people all around me my friend. They are too afraid to LIVE! They are walking dead worried about their bills, worried about their reputation, worried about this material possession or that possession, worried about getting sick, worried about being injuried, worried about being heart broken, terrified to live and LOVE!
Perhaps we already live in a world where all are dead and only one lives. Then consider me here to raise the dead! LOL.
It is not literal my friend it is a metaphor. If your eye sees evil, pluck it out, it will damn you to hell! If you see nothing but offence everywhere you look, you will spend all your time judging life and not living it. You will miss out on all the splendor around you. This WILL happen.
Have you seen the world we live in? I see dead people all around me my friend. They are too afraid to LIVE! They are walking dead worried about their bills, worried about their reputation, worried about this material possession or that possession, worried about getting sick, worried about being injuried, worried about being heart broken, terrified to live and LOVE!
While humans cling to this world's possessions and ways, they drift away from the light and further into the darkness, like it was in the time of their mother's womb, or like it will be when they are six feet under in the womb of the Earth, people seek to return to the darkness they came from. They're attached to this realm and are too "drunk" to see beyond it.
28. Jesus said, "I took my stand in the midst of the world, and in flesh I appeared to them. I found them all drunk, and I did not find any of them thirsty. My soul ached for the children of humanity, because they are blind in their hearts and do not see, for they came into the world empty, and they also seek to depart from the world empty. But meanwhile they are drunk. When they shake off their wine, then they will change their ways."
Originally posted by Akragon
Amazing how definitive you are about these passages, but believe what you will... It doesn't matter how i arrived at those conclusions, clearly you've made up your mind. Who am i to try and change your beliefs