Stephen Harper seeks majority to dissolve Canada in favor of North American Union

reply to post by Unity_99


FEAR MONGER... You don't even make any sense. Sounds like you are unemployeed and plain pissed off. You sure as hell don't pay attention to the news. Genocide?! Really... You should of voted NDP for a free ride!

reply to post by JohnnyCanuck


You're seeing a portion of the picture. When's the last time you talked to a vet about it, or arranged the resources for him. Didn't think so... Seen it first hand myself... you? Love your enthusiasm but your missing some perspectives.

Originally posted by Invariance
Did you ever notice that it's "The Harper Government", as referred, not "The Conservatives" ?

My final statement on the matter is a quote from an article in The Barrie Examiner

The Harper government is like a brick wall and a train put together, which is headed on a path to destruction; no matter how much you try to work with it, there is no compromise.

It is his bullying ways and no other.

His government makes a mockery of democracy and will ruin the very foundations of our democracy.

So yes, there will be countless elections if Harper gets a minority government, because our Canadian democracy (people) will always stand up for our rights.

God help us, if he gets a majority. Our county will be changed forever into a very scary future for our children and us.

People will truly come to appreciate the words 'freedom' and 'human rights'.

WoW, from a mainstream media source.

"The Barrie Examiner" Been to Barrie, I wouldn't call this mainstream media...

If and I emphasize IF something silly like this was ever discussed, I would say the US is trying to become part of Canada.

We're much nicer and polite, most people around the world like us, we have healthcare (as much as it needs improving at least we don't need to worry whether we can afford to feed our family or see a doctor), we have lot's of clean fresh water and natural resourses.

Yup, The Great Canadian Continent Beer and Back Bacon for everyone...eh!

oh and I forgot to add. I'm sorry if I offended anyone with my remarks, I apologize profusely If I have hurt your feelings in any way. Please forgive me

So let's see - Bin Laden dead.

What's next on the list?

Oh yeah, False Flag Event!

Moving on down the list tooooo Implement Martial Law.

Then, USHER IN THE NORTH AMERICAN UNION!

Yep, it's all right on schedule.

Just watch...

peace

Yup everything is chugging along as planned. OBL is "Dead" (really in the US actually, quite comfortable I'm sure), Federal government flooded southern Missouri to save Illinois (since that makes sense?), Conservatives in Canada won the majority in the house of commons miraculously (aka Harper will make good on his part), yep it looks like its coming together now. Next watch for a terrorist attack in either Britain, France or Spain as they won't bother attacking the US, won't cause as much a stir as attacking its allies, then somewhere, probably not the US but maybe Mexico, an atomic weapon will be used as a false flag event. From there its FEMA and martial law, and eventually WWIII (which suprisingly won't use nukes as the world will see the devistation from the initial false flag nuke attack and won't dare use them as this will be a war for resources).
As my French brothers would say, "*deep breath*...mierde."

reply to post by silo13


As a Canadian citizen who voted on May 2, I am terrified that Harper won a majority. Even though the NDP won +100 seats out of 308, this still gives harper a majority.

I didn't mind a Conservative Minority because this forces the parties to work together, but now...

Don't get me wrong, I love my American brothers and sisters, I just don't want to live with you.

It is so 'nice' to see how little Canadians understand their own political environment.

Majority is Con...who cares, nothing will change.

Con win was dictated by GTA voter base. A voter base that is typically Lib. A voter base that will turn on the Cons immediately if they get driven too far right.

Harper is stuck in a position of appeasing the 'moderates' (this is a good thing). Every government in power since the GTA became the GTA has had to live by this.

So...if the GTA voter base demands their MP's to change they will...poof...there goes Con majority.

So much fear mongering with so little basis in reality...you would almost think we are at a conspiracy site .

I bet not single person in this thread could point to any aspects of any proposed legislation that seeks to 'dissolve canada'.

I am sure I am in the minority, but as a Canadian, I would support some sort of coalition with the United States

I would agree to a name such as United States of North America

I would agree to the establishment of military bases to protect the artic circle. I would want 400 nuclear warheads be stored on former Canadian soil.

I would want a new national anthem. I would want the CFL to merge into the NFL having priority draft selection for the next 5 years.

I would want 0 border between our great nations, only securing the perimeter

Canada obviously has the most resources on the planet, but America has a lot of gas refineries too, which would lower our gas prices significantly.

Also, merging the currencies will allow former Canadian provinces to become competitive in manufacturing goods.

With all this said, the capitalist ideal held by some elite Americans is not in line with Canada's idea of a free republic. Capitalism is great if the money stays "in house"

Nobody supported communist goods before, but it is ok now? If we become a super nation and employ all the citizens then we truly can help other nations around the world

reply to post by ADUB77


Sorry I'm quite proud of my country and would never allow it to become part of the US. Over my dead body. If we become one our quality of life would greatly deminish. That's for sure. The US would be calling all the shots and we would just be raped of our resources. I bet we would pay higher gas prices. I sure hope you are a minority because this is a horrible idea for Canadians.

Originally posted by Canadianpride420
reply to post by ADUB77

 

Sorry I'm quite proud of my country and would never allow it to become part of the US. Over my dead body. If we become one our quality of life would greatly deminish.

It would? how?

That's for sure. The US would be calling all the shots and we would just be raped of our resources.

You mean in the same way as it has been for hundreds of years?

I bet we would pay higher gas prices.

Canadians already pay more than americans for gas.


That's 0 for 3. What else you got?

I am able to put aside nationalistic pride when looking at the grand picture

Being we can't occupy and have as much as we do, we may think we deserve it, but trust me 2 decades or less from now there will be about 2 billion people asking why 34 million people have 30% of the pie

Originally posted by beezzer
Their bacon frightens me. But I like their beer.

Seriously? I'd volunteer to fight with the Canadians to KEEP their country.
Ours is trashed. No sense in screwing up another country.

Thank you for that offer

I'm taking you up on it, when needed....Canada really needs to stay separate.

(sobs at the thought of losing loonies and toonies)

All jokes aside..this is very depressing .

Originally posted by Invariance
reply to post by JohnnyCanuck

 

Absolutely, I do hope we finally have an Epic voter turn-out.. I honestly support my teen (voting for the first time) to read all she can and pick the ones she thinks will do best, and at her high-school they've been discussing the importance of just making it to the poles. People have to realize that every vote does matter, and we can make a difference... even if it's just in small ways

And those who don't vote don't have a right to complain about the government afterwards. At least if 'our guy' doesn't get it, we can honestly say we didn't vote for him! LOL

And what about if your guy does get in,and he totally reneges on all the promises he made ?? has happened to me more than once, and it gets to the point where you don't want to vote, because they all seem like back stabbing liars. For whatever reason you vote, or don't vote..you have a right to bitch about the BS ,and manipulation coming from our politicians.

Originally posted by incrediblelousminds

Originally posted by Canadianpride420
reply to post by ADUB77

 

Sorry I'm quite proud of my country and would never allow it to become part of the US. Over my dead body. If we become one our quality of life would greatly deminish.

It would? how?

That's for sure. The US would be calling all the shots and we would just be raped of our resources.

You mean in the same way as it has been for hundreds of years?

I bet we would pay higher gas prices.

Canadians already pay more than americans for gas.


That's 0 for 3. What else you got?

edit on 4-6-2011 by incrediblelousminds because: (no reason given)

First of all I would like to get some of what you have been smoking because it seems you have completely mistook my post. Well for one I bet our healthcare system would be thrown out the window. The US is like 13 trillion in debt or some crazy number and we are also in debt. We have a big country rich in resources with a small population for it's size. If we join the states, I don't see how that can be beneficial in any way. Instead of saying why not, how about you come up with some reasons why it would be a good idea.

While they obviously have influence they are not calling all the shots. And hundreds of years? Thats a joke. Perhaps your statement would hold some truth if you said decades. With a NAU they would have a lot more influence IMO.

Yes they do, thanks for stating what everyone living in the US and Canada already know. What I was proposing is that we would be paying alot more if this union came into being.

Lmao I don't bother keeping score what I think is right in my opinion. 0-3 hahaha, thanks for the laugh, that was jokes.

reply to post by Canadianpride420


Again, your fears don't seem to be founded in any concrete understanding of actual proposed legislation. You can continue to speculate about all sorts of worst case scenarios but until you can show that those fears are grounded in something real and not some vague, anti-american hysteria, they wont really be worth debating.

Have a great day.

Originally posted by incrediblelousminds
reply to post by Canadianpride420

 

Again, your fears don't seem to be founded in any concrete understanding of actual proposed legislation. You can continue to speculate about all sorts of worst case scenarios but until you can show that those fears are grounded in something real and not some vague, anti-american hysteria, they wont really be worth debating.

Have a great day.

What on earth are you talking about? The NAU has been talked about plenty and it is not just some worst case scenario. Before the election Elizabeth May stated that not only was Harper not going to make the news of a NAU public, but he refused to debate it at all. So what, your for him bringing us into such a union without support and backing from the people of Canada. I guarantee the majority are against it, even if you are for it.

For you to say my views are a vague, anti-american hysteria shows you cannot debate the comments I made to your other post. How in the hell is wanting my country to remain Canada and not become a part of the United States or ANY country anti american hysteria? I would say if your a Canadian and for such a proposal, than you are a traitor to your country. I am not not anti American but I am anti Harper, Obama and I disagree with both governments. The people of every country I have no problem with, what kind of uneducated person categorizes me as anti american because of my opinion on their government and not wanting to become one with them. Perhaps you should choose your words more carefully.

I'm still waiting for you to post why this NAU is a good idea or why we Canadians would benefit from it.

reply to post by Canadianpride420


But again, friend, you havent pointed to one single concrete example of proposed or pending legislation that would substantiate any of the fears you have expressed here thus far.

Just saying "The NAU is going to steal my healthcare" is not founded in fact.I have yet to see one bit of legislation that actually threatens that, in relation to the so-called "NAU".

So you'll forgive me if I continue to observe that your concerns dont appear to be rooted in any concrete understanding of any specific legislation, but just a more broad (if understandable) fear of corporate-right leaning American politics.

SO, again, I repeat, what specific legislation are you concerned about? I am more than willing to be proven wrong, but no one here has been willing to even attempt that thus far. And I've been asking this of you and others for month now in this and other threads.

reply to post by incrediblelousminds


What are you talking about? Have you not heard of the Security and Prosperity Partnership act that Harper and Obama are pushing on us?

www.onlinecic.org...

This report reflects the ideals of the neo-conservatives currently in power. This is what they are striving for: integration of all security forces (police, military, even airport security) to jointly protect new plans for economic integration.

I don't know about you, but I don't need the FBI hunting me down for anti-American thinking on Canadian soil, which is what will happen with the invocation of the SPP.

The whole modern integration of Canada into the US has been in the works for awhile, and the planners in Washington know that they need to push it as slowly and stealthily on us as possible or else the majority of Canadians will panic.

Does it not seem strange to you that NAFTA has only brought Canada hardship and our neocon leadership claims the only way to improve our situation is more North American integration?