Stephen Harper seeks majority to dissolve Canada in favor of North American Union

reply to post by skeptic_al


I was listening to CBC yesterday and they were interviewing Jewish people about the election. Every single person they interviewed said they were voting for Harper because he supports Israel. Nevermind all the terrible things he's done and will do to this country.......oh ok, he "supports" Israel. Perfect, got my vote!!

I seriously think all he'd have to do to win this election is put out a string of ads that are literally this simple:

Ad 1 - "I support and care about you, old people. Vote for me and I'll do stuff for you, I promise!!!"

Ad 2- "I support and care about you, visible minorities. Vote for me and I'll do stuff for you, I promise!!!"

Ad 3- "I support and care about you, poor people. Vote for me and I'll do stuff for you, I promise!!!"


He would win by an overwhelming LANDSLIDE!!!! The great majority of people, very unfortunately, are just that dense. They'd eat it all up and talk about it at the water cooler the next day. "Well........he said he supports and cares about me, I'm voting Conservative!"

Anyone dumb enough to actually VOTE a tyrant into power, deserves the billy-club of tyranny in the face!

Originally posted by SaturnFX
Canada supplies most of north american oil

Clearly they are being supressed...

Time for us to liberate canada...get your flowers ready canada, we are rolling in to save you

To save us? Ha ha ha...he he he. *Choke* Who the hell is going to save you. I can travel most of the world with a Canadian flag patch on my gear and clothing as a civilian and get no flack, you? In fact while my wife and I went to Europe 5 years ago we gave three little flags to a couple from LA that were concerned about going into France at the time (riot's burning cars in the streets.) Taking over and drying up resources around the world. Consume, consume, consume. You don't trust yourselves, let alone anyone else. Allowed parts of your country with your own countrymen to suffer as you search the world for more resources. Liberate your own country, stop hating each other. Besides your living in a fantasy of having your economy revitalized by absorbing Canada. Drop the "I AM" attitude, you stole it, because I AM CANADIAN!

reply to post by gandhi


No... he's going to get re-elected.

reply to post by PsychNurse


No... he's not. There's gonna be an evil coalition which will open the Gates of Hell upon the land.

vote coalition

Originally posted by silo13

The North American Union will happen, you can take that to the bank. Remember the Europeans who said it would never happen, and they were wrong too.

peace

edit on 21-4-2011 by silo13 because: vid fix

But European countries are still that - European countries, each with their own laws but with (and I'm not saying I agree with it) a common European voice. They haven't all annexed to become one big country which you seem to be suggesting is happening if Harper gets his way with Canada, or have I missed the point, and if so what is your issue?

reply to post by XRaDiiX


Seriously, how long have you actually followed Candian politics. Do you people realize that Harper is the first priminister in the last quarter cetury to make an attempt to support our military not to mention their much need funding increase. Not that anyone in the world even touches the US military capabilities. But our previous leaders relied on our southern neighbors. Harper came into office with strong personal beliefs that he has set aside to try to meet expectations of Canadians, that's a strong leader. Considering he has a minority government, I think he has done well. No leader has gone through office without scorning or being criticised by the Canadian public.

NDP- take my hard earned money and spread it out to everyone else because they can't work because of lack of self directed education, or crminal records. NO

BLOC- break up this beautiful country. NO

LIBERALS- believe the campaign promises of getting everything we want... for massive tax hikes to follow. NO
(I am of former liberal persuasion.)

CONSERVATIVES- stay the coure of action plans put in place over the last 3 years and improve Canada. Hmm. YES

reply to post by PsychNurse


Harper came into politics from the extreme right under Preston Manning and the Reform Party. Their primary focus was one of social engineering with an eye towards fundamental Christianity and, since it wasn't Canada's cup of tea, they formed a coalition with the Conservatives, called themselves the New Conservatives and inducted many of the failed provincial Mike Harris's neo-conservatives into their ranks.

For American's, I can only say much of the above left a distinct taste of brimstone in the mouths of Canadians across the land.

'The Harper Government' groans with an agonized desire for a majority government, hoping that most Canadians will be asleep at the wheel on March 2nd and that only blue ties will vote in their favour.

Not gonna happen. Only a bit over a week left and it's obvious this election is capturing the attention of the population who are at this moment rubbing their sleepy eyes, listening to the news, watching the Nanos polls and getting ready for a weekend of religion and politics around the supper table.

If they do win, it'll be another minority, imho.

Originally posted by masqua
'The Harper Government' groans with an agonized desire for a majority government, hoping that most Canadians will be asleep at the wheel on March 2nd and that only blue ties will vote in their favour.

The Lib's got trounced last time because many Lib voters stayed home in disgust at what the party had become. That's not going to happen this time. Harper may not even get a minority. Iggy might. Hell, with Quebec's backing Layton might.

Jim Tucker the prime bilderberger reporter just reported that the bilderbergers who
tell both Harper and Ignatieff what to do
intend to use financial collapese to get the NAU installed by the end of 2012
he just reported this on Alex jones today.
look for oil through the roof double the price at the pumps ...
POVERTY
and war in the middle east too...

which is why the election now as I have said
BEFORE the financial colllapse
which will happen soon after
the election which doesn't matter
happens.

this ties in with accurate pundits forecasting rel trouble in the bond market in june july
as well as major calls in the silver and gold markets...
which look like fails from here

Originally posted by PsychNurse
Do you people realize that Harper is the first priminister in the last quarter cetury to make an attempt to support our military not to mention their much need funding increase.

Well, he tries to pi$$ it way on aircraft that we won't need and won't tell us what they'll cost. But our First Nations live in squallor and there's still lots of dough for Steve's toys. He keeps us in a war that nobody wants (that the Libs got us into post 911 as a sop for declining to dance in Iraq), and when the vets get home, they are on their own...and if an ombudsman reports on it, he gets dumped.

Are you sure our men and women in the military want all this help? I sure don't?

Well said JC.

my land lord just dropped the price on a primo house 30 pecent from "low to begin with"...
and not ONE BITE in a month
election before crash
imho
ignore the side show
prepare

Arrgh, I reeeeally dislike Harper and definitely will not be voting for him, but I don't know enough about these guys and the politics to make an informed decision, I was hoping to get a better idea of what to do by reading this thread but there's so many different opinions on who to vote for I haven't found it helpful at all.

One question, why does nobody have anything to say about the green party? Is it because they're only at like 2% or what? Literally nobody even mentions them not even on the news, why are they not taken seriously? Do they have a bad platform? Inexperience? What little I have heard from them seems like good stuff, maybe there's no attention put on them because they're the only ones not on board with the plans the rest of them hold?

I too am skeptical. For this to happen it would require both nations to make major changes to their country's constitutions, and thus make it possible for provinces to separate (ie the west and Quebec). This was the case when there was talk of The Turks and Caicos joining Canada in the 90s and it was nixed due to the reopening of the constitution and Quebec.

I also have the feeling that republicans in the US wouldn't be too fond of the idea, especially those in the Tea Party.

In my opinion the US will take Canada over on an economic front, securing our resouces for themselves (like what Obama recently said about Canadian oil the other week).

Anyway I don't see Harper getting a majority this time round, I don't think canadians trust him enough, or ever will!

Interesting post though!

reply to post by something wicked

They haven't all annexed to become one big country which you seem to be suggesting is happening if Harper gets his way with Canada, or have I missed the point, and if so what is your issue?

My issue is = I found some info I thought escaped the notice of ATS. I've been very interested in the past over the NAU but I don't have a pawn in either camp. That leave me a interested messenger at this point.

That being said if Canada, the USA and Mexico could 'come together' in force and create a Union - is that a good thing? It depends on a 'whole lot' to coin a plebeian phrase.

At this point I want fact - if we can find any at all that registers true - like what is Harper up to in reality, who's behind him and if there's a chance Canadians will vote for him. From there? Is he focusing on accomplishing 'no good' or if this is all or part political propaganda. I'm sorry to say I think it's both, but, there's still a lot more cat in the bag we need to examine before getting the full picture.

peace

reply to post by Invariance

Your input into this thread has been invaluable. I hope the MODS are handing out applause, but, obviously that's last on your mind and what's first is FACT - you're my kind of ATS'er! GREAT JOB!

There's enough fodder for your brain to mull over for now. AND think about this:
This has been signed.
This has been hidden.
This has not gone to Parliament for debate.
This is 2 months later and you have to sift and dig deep for answers, and those you find from official releases are not all that forthcoming.

This is NOT a ploy form rival political parties.
This is NOT a hoax portrayed from some mentally-ill person with nothing better to do than feed on drama.
This is NOT about the "Amero" unified dollar.

This IS something to read about, tell your friends and family about.
This is NOT something to take lightly.

These ARE our ELECTED officials!

The only thing I might take to task here is your opinion this is not about the 'Amero'... In a round about way I believe beyond a shadow of a doubt this IS about the economy and sadly, that means the Amero.
The Amero is someones pet pony that's been ridden hard and long and will never give up the show.

BUT - I don't want to sidetrack the GREAT points you've made squabbling over this issue.

Thank you for your time and input again,

peace

reply to post by Mapleleaf_Messenger


Please flip to page 13 of this thread and read the information I posted about the signing of this agreement in Feb 2011, then please let me know if you're still skeptical?

Thanks

reply to post by silo13


Agreed, let me restructure the point.. it's not ALL about the Amerio... there's way more to this than we can even begin to possible find out with the tools at hand. We still have no idea of the exact wording of the document signed in Feb. and the very FACT that the information is being withheld is a curious thing. According to the information I posted on page 13, I personally feel that the public is going to be gradually groomed into the idea if you know what I mean.

The Amerio is not the bottom line.

Originally posted by WielderOfTheSwordOfTruth
I was hoping to get a better idea of what to do by reading this thread but there's so many different opinions on who to vote for I haven't found it helpful at all.

One question, why does nobody have anything to say about the green party?

Frankly, I am not going Green because I figure that a majority of Steve will take this country even farther from the Canada I love than he already has. I am voting for the party with the best ability to curtail him. At this point, it's the Liberals...though the NDP are moving up the polls.

Steve rails about coalitions...I see them as a good thing. Too much power rested in one ideology gets bad, quick.

Q: Why did the chicken cross the road?
A: To ask the GG to prorogue Parliament.

Myself and at least 47 people I know in this area are voting Green this year. Might lose but meh, they're the only ones that make sense to me ... JUST my humble opinion ...

reply to post by silo13


Don't know if you'd seen this yet, but it sure tells a sordid tale about The Harper Government and their secret motives:

Perhaps nothing better illustrates the evolution of political thinking in this country than the complete silence on the campaign trail as the relationship between Canada and the U.S. is being reshaped.

A generation ago, a historic trade deal with the U.S. dominated a dramatic campaign.

Ten years ago, when a U.S. ambassador called for a North American security perimeter, this nation convulsed.

But in 2011 Stephen Harper can launch secret negotiations on a security perimeter with the U.S. and no one blinks.

Harper’s government was so worried about push back on its negotiations with President Barack Obama that it deliberately kept plans secret while it knit together its best sales job on a wary electorate.

www.thestar.com...

great thread