Forget the Birth Certificate! Wheres the Proof He Even Existed?

reply to post by NorEaster


Here is the exciting article which turned up in the Harvard Law Review for Obama
www.politico.com...

But an unsigned — and previously unattributed — 1990 article unearthed by Politico offers a glimpse at Obama's views on abortion policy and the law during his student days, and provides a rare addition to his body of work.

The six-page summary, tucked into the third volume of the year's Harvard Law Review, considers the charged, if peripheral, question of whether fetuses should be able to file lawsuits against their mothers. Obama's answer, like most courts': No. He wrote approvingly of an Illinois Supreme Court ruling that the unborn cannot sue their mothers for negligence, and he suggested that allowing fetuses to sue would violate the mother's rights and could, perversely, cause her to take more risks with her pregnancy.

Of course, this is completely consistent with his current views on rights of the unborn, which we know already from his voting record in Chicago that he views babies surviving botched abortions still alive not worthy of even the most minimal care given till they die.
So while we cannot say he did not exist, the things we do find out about him do show his character(or lack of it).

Originally posted by mudbeed
This is what people are seeing when they come to ATS. If it was my first time, i might think about turning around. It reminds me of a GLP post, tbh.

I know what you mean. It's embarrassing. But it's what ATS members are talking about. There are a lot of birthers here. The thread asks a lot of questions. It doesn't really state anything that could be called a hoax or rant. I'm not sure where you think the thread should go, but I don't see any reason to move it. Like it or not, many ATS members dig it.

On Obama's past, I'm going to copy what I said in another thread, just so I don't have to type it out again.

I think if we looked into many people's pasts with as much scrutiny as has been focused on Obama, we might find some pretty colorful stuff. I know, if you looked into my past.... WHEW! you would be blown completely away! Let's just say I'm not going to be running for public office any time soon. My point is that I'm a GOOD person. I'm a better person than Obama, in my unbiased opinion. But my past doesn't accurately portray the person I am today. And if I were to become a public figure, there's a lot about my past that I'd want to keep out of the public's eye. My past does not represent me. And neither does Obama's.

So, even if he did practice Islam, do coke, sleep with a man, hang out with socialists and take a trip to Pakistan when he shouldn't have, that isn't who he is today. And I happen to think that what you see is what you get with him. Aside from being a lawyer and a politician, I really like the guy and I don't buy that all this crap about his past has any relevance on the state of his presidency or the issues in the US.

reply to post by ThirdEyeofHorus


Now you're on the trolley! This is something we can criticize Obama for. It's something real.

Originally posted by ThirdEyeofHorus
reply to post by NorEaster

 

um....he was the president of Harvard Law Review. No mystery there. It's pretty easy to verify, as is the rest of it if you're an actual journalist who'd probably will a Pulitzer Prize if he/she could scoop such a conspiracy to fabricate Obama's resume.

People apparently fabricate their resumes all the time. They call it "padding". So you don't think Bill Ayers of Weather Underground and the SDS and Axelrod and all the others could teach him how to do that? Yale is the land of Skull and Bones and Harvard a bit less so, but nevertheless still part of that deal.

Wow

You people really do exist, then. I honestly thought the media was inventing you folks to amuse the rest of us.

So, you really think that a black presidential candidate, running against Hillary "The Pantsuit" Clinton for the post she'd instinctively claimed as her rightful property after living in the house for 8 long years already, would "pad" his resume with a ficticious entry like "President of Harvard Law Review"? You honestly see that as a plausible or even possible tactical ploy that would be used - let alone, one that could have succeeded?

As a follow-up, do you believe that Satan planted dinosaur bones all around the world to hoodwink humankind into rejecting the 6,000 year total age of the Earth and Universe, as calculated when using the Book of Genesis as a science reference manual?

I just want to see if the media hss been lying to us about the existence of those folks or not. Thanks.

Mitt Romney is Latino.

His grandparents are felons who fled the country to avoid prosecution.
Romney's are FELONS

But you guys want to give Obama grief?

reply to post by Arcade425


what makes u think NSA,or CIA is on our side(the people)

reply to post by Benevolent Heretic


Ummm okay, all the rest of us get judged permanently by our records, why not him? Why not especially him being POTUS, the leader of the Free World?

One thing this thread does do is show that when birthers get shot down *(AZ law vetoed) they move onto something else. They are professional goalpost movers. It's not about the certificate anymore, it's about his best man, his favorite ice cream flavor, and his preferred brand of toilet paper.

What really gets me is that most of the birthers and now "pasters" (those who want to know every detail about Obama's past) are the same people who LOVE their privacy and don't want ANYONE telling them what to do. They are the Patriots of this Great Nation who preach against government intrusion and praise their Constitutional rights! Of course, until it comes to Obama... All the rules are different for Obama. Because... who was George W. Bush's babysitter???

And why on EARTH would it matter?
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reply to post by NorEaster

As far as padding his resume? Sure, why not? Just as easily as Nixon illegally taped conversations at Watergate, just as easily as FDR was a Freemason, just as easily as someone shot JFK, just as easily as 9-11 was whitewashed by a panel, just as easily as every covert CIA operation existed, just as easily as SDS was involved in student anti-war demonstrations, just as easily as Obama denies involvement with his neighbor and Annenberg mentor Bill Ayers, just as easily as a party given by BIll Ayers in his home for Obama is dismissed as a bizarre fluke where Ayers somehow didn't really know Obama or have something to do with him.
As for the rest of your post:
You really are on a histrionics rant today.

Originally posted by Benevolent Heretic
One thing this thread does do is show that when birthers get shot down *(AZ law vetoed) they move onto something else. They are professional goalpost movers. It's not about the certificate anymore, it's about hos best man, his favorite ice cream flavor, and his preferred brand of toilet paper.

What really get me is that most of the birthers and now "pasters" (those who want to know every detail about Obama's past) are the same people who LOVE their privacy and don't want ANYONE telling them what to do. They are the Patriots of this Great Nation who preach against government intrusion and praise their Constitutional rights! Of course, until it comes to Obama... All the rules are different for Obama. Because... who was George W. Bush's babysitter???

And why on EARTH would it matter?

Oh, right, like the liberal left didn't want to expose every detail about George Bush Jrs drunken ordeals or the details of his wife's accident. Cmon, what's good for the goose is good for the gander here.

reply to post by Arcade425


Do you think the NSA and CIA are not involved in the NWO? Come on - they are the detectives and the henchmen of the NWO, respectively.

reply to post by ThirdEyeofHorus


Wow. You can find fault in everyone's past, or rather, percieved fault. Obama wants children dead? Really? Even the most rabid abortion supporter doesn't want kids harmed (okay, excepting the occasional psychopath) but makes the difficult personal, moral choice between the rights of one person already here and the potential for one... a hard choice, admittedly, for some.

The real deal, if we cut through the b.s., is that you folks don't agree with his politics/philosophy and/or skin color and will pick through any questionable pile to support it. End of story.

But that's your right. I doubt the man in question would see it any differently, and that's the crux of the matter. Big, big sigh.

reply to post by ThirdEyeofHorus


Big difference: those were real events, though I think Laura's accident should have been off-limits. This nonsense about Obama is all fictional.

Originally posted by ThirdEyeofHorus
reply to post by NorEaster

 

Here is the exciting article which turned up in the Harvard Law Review for Obama
www.politico.com...

But an unsigned — and previously unattributed — 1990 article unearthed by Politico offers a glimpse at Obama's views on abortion policy and the law during his student days, and provides a rare addition to his body of work.

The six-page summary, tucked into the third volume of the year's Harvard Law Review, considers the charged, if peripheral, question of whether fetuses should be able to file lawsuits against their mothers. Obama's answer, like most courts': No. He wrote approvingly of an Illinois Supreme Court ruling that the unborn cannot sue their mothers for negligence, and he suggested that allowing fetuses to sue would violate the mother's rights and could, perversely, cause her to take more risks with her pregnancy.

Of course, this is completely consistent with his current views on rights of the unborn, which we know already from his voting record in Chicago that he views babies surviving botched abortions still alive not worthy of even the most minimal care given till they die.
So while we cannot say he did not exist, the things we do find out about him do show his character(or lack of it).

Okay, so now the existence and the resume are proven. That's good.

You're a real find for someone like me who is fascinated by unusual outlooks. Of course an unborn fetus can't sue its mother. To be able to sue its mother, it would have to knowingly enter into such a lawsuit with its own intent and of its own volition. It can't. It has no viability within the corporeal realm, and no capacity to even realize that a lawsuit has been initiated. The open door for all sorts of bizarre legal hi-jinks is too obvious for a responsible policy crafter to allow to exist. Obama was right in his opinion.

After all, there is the issue of true existential independence in the case of a de facto parasitic organism in a de jure civil conflict that has arisen as a result (allegedly) of its own (alleged) initiative. If physical threat or damage is involved between the mother and the unborn fetus, criminal statutes are in place to allow the State to bring legal remedy, but to change broad state or federal law to allow civil suit to be brought against the mother by an organism that has no measurable intellectual capacity, no ability to exist as a stand-alone entity free of the direct and constant physical nutritional assistance of the defendant's own body (a defined parasitic relationship), and whose very legal status (concerning tax deductibility and over all consideration when calculating government aid and housing requirements) is still a dynamic quantity in every state in the union, is "a bridge too far" - echoing the surprisingly responsible words of AZ governor Jan Brewer as she vetoed the AZ birther bill yesterday.

But, I did enjoy the crazy you brought to the discussion. It was refreshing.

reply to post by ThirdEyeofHorus


When you applied for your last job, did they ask you the gender of the person you were sleeping with? Did they ask your religion? Did they ask detailed questions about your mother and father? Or who you hung around with in college? Did they ask to see your college thesis? Your school registration or draft registration card? Did they ask ANYTHING of a personal nature? Like who your best man was? Or did they focus on your qualifications for the job?

You get judged on what YOU decide to put out there. No doubt there are things in your past that you don't tell people. The point is, YOU choose, because it's your life.
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Originally posted by karen61057

Originally posted by hawaii50th

Originally posted by mudbeed

Originally posted by hawaii50th

Originally posted by errolan
This man is dillusional... i mean the proponent of this tread.

Another great supporter that makes this thread ever more legitimate and makes for further discussion surrounding this conspiracy. I look forward to what Corsi's book has to say.

Hey let me ask. Do you believe that Hawaii is our 50th state?

Do you? Yes there is some relevance to the OP and this is why I am asking.

Including reference to your choice of screen name.

In the eye's of the United States government Hawaii is the 50th state. It was over thrown illegally by a bunch of wealthy men that was able to use the U.S. marines to back them up and take over the royal palace and incarcerate the Queen. Today Dr. David Keanu Sai is working to expose the illegal occupation of the Kingdom of Hawaii.
www.hawaiiankingdom.org...

www.hawaiiankingdom.org...

edit on 20-4-2011 by hawaii50th because: (no reason given)

Wonder who they're gonna get to go around and remove the extra star on all those flags out there??? And next year I hear the eskimos will be starting their own revolution.

I guess they'll cross that bridge if they ever get to it. And, yes I heard the same thing about the Eskimos too, where did you hear about it? I read it on someones liberal blog, how about you?

Where were some of you guys when many of us were asking about George Bush's service record when he served in the Alabama National Guard? Members of that unit posted a $1000 reward for one member to state that they remember Lt. Bush in their unit. They later raised that to $5000. It remains unclaimed to this day.

Obama Wedding Photo:



Obama at Columbia:



Old friends say drugs played bit part in Obama's life.
Looks like some people remember him at Occidental College before Columbia.

Others remember him there.

Sports Illustrated talking to Obama, a former teammate and coach of his Punahou High basketball team. Maybe we should ask former NFL players John Kamana and Mark Tuinei if he was really there since they were on the same team a couple years ahead of him.

Some folks may need to get a hobby or find a real conspiracy to research and let go of all this "Obama is an alien CIA plant that never existed" stuff. Or we could put up a $1000 reward! Maybe Fox News can offer that for anybody that remembers him....since they and several posters here obviously can't read.

Originally posted by Arcade425
My brother had a good point the other day he said "Do you really think the NSA and the CIA would allow Obama to become president if they even suspected he was up to something?" Or this could all be a NWO scenario where everbody is in their pockets.

And thats all i need to hear,thanks arcade.

"Do you really think the NSA and the CIA would allow Obama to become president if they even suspected he was up to something

dummys!!!

Why is this thread not in the RANT section??

Originally posted by ThirdEyeofHorus
Oh, right, like the liberal left didn't want to expose every detail about George Bush Jrs drunken ordeals

That was CURRENT. It was happening in the White House. Not in a college guy's dorm room 25 years ago. And I didn't know his wife had an accident. But then, I'm not on the liberal left.