.22 Rimfire Semi Auto's

Get a S&W M&P 15-22 with a nice sight and practice, is very acurate at 25yards and no matter what they say a bullet is a bullet it can kill you. In the worse case you will have a good gun with cheap good ammo.

you should get a gun that uses .22 or 9mm thats the most used ammo. and always stock ammo for emergencies.

I love my MP15-22




and my S&W SD9

reply to post by cdesigns


That S&W is pretty sweet!!

I once owned a Ruger 10/22 semi-auto, and while it was fun to shoot and there are a ton of after market items for them... got rid off it b/c I couldn't get a decent group out of it.

I picked up a Savage MKII bolt action with a bull barrel and put a Redfield scope on it.

I can drill a pattern the size of a dime at 50 yards consistently now.

My opinion is that you don't need a semi-auto for small game. Accuracy is most important.

A bolt action with a good barrel and scope will let you drill a rabbit in the eye any time you want.

EDIT: Forgot to mention the MKII is only about $250 here in the states. My whole rig set me back about $450

Here's a picture of it:

reply to post by gunshooter


You do know there is modifications you can make to the rifle right?

Like a red dot scope...increasing your accuracy on the target greatly...

And since it has practically no recoil, pulling the trigger more then once while someone is charging really shouldn't be that hard. Sending more bullets at the target, more bullets more chances to hit vital areas.

Hitting the head would be hard, but possible. Now hitting the heart is another story all together, pop about 10 rounds at their chest and it should be enough to make them drop or run away.

Not to mention there are plenty of stories with people defending themselves with .22LR pistols and rifles.

So your sarcastic statements like you think you know what you're talking about aren't needed.

I said the rifle is supposed to be a reliable rifle, but every rifle eventually breaks down and would need new parts....it would be ultimately reliable if the rifle would never break down, but that's just wishful thinking now isn't it?

Here are some stories linked below about .22LR pistols and rifles defending and saving people. Who knows what could of happened if they didn't have a gun.

www.wsbradio.com...

.22LR rifle use in self defense below.

www.kmtr.com...

www.oregonlive.com...

www.valleycentral.com...

There are plenty of other stories around of .22LR calibers that have done the job in self defense and without hearing any modifications to the gun, like i said a scope would greatly increase accuracy.

reply to post by Quickfix


you can shoot at the neck and hit the airway causing to choke on own blood

reply to post by bert666


Very true.

I have a red dot scope on my .22 so it makes targeting way easier.

I also like the recoil on .22LR's there practically isn't any, so more rounds on the target and faster.

reply to post by Quickfix




Red dots do not make your gun more accurate. They simply make it quicker to get on target. Iron sights and a scope will still give you better accuracy out of a firearm.

i like the Lee-Enfield 303 converted to 22 lr it s heavy as # but it really has nice action i get a 2 and half inch group at 50 meters with iron sights

Originally posted by James1982
reply to post by Quickfix

 

Red dots do not make your gun more accurate. They simply make it quicker to get on target. Iron sights and a scope will still give you better accuracy out of a firearm.

edit on 14-5-2011 by James1982 because: (no reason given)

Iron sights take to long to line up, its why i said a red dot. IF you really are in a squeeze, like a person charging at you, red dots beat iron sights hands down. A scope is for longer distances and iron sights for shorter, red dots are an upgrade to iron sights. And if you want to put a scope on a .22LR you can, but i find it a bit pointless since the bullet trajectory and velocity starts to decrease a lot after 100 yards.

I know red dots don't make the gun more accurate, it just increases accuracy....

Originally posted by James1982
reply to post by Quickfix

 

Red dots do not make your gun more accurate. They simply make it quicker to get on target. Iron sights and a scope will still give you better accuracy out of a firearm.

edit on 14-5-2011 by James1982 because: (no reason given)

red dot is good for close quarters and a scope for long range the scope has to be zeroed first once you work out you-er wind and elevation and distance

reply to post by bert666


You have to zero all electronic sights, that includes red dot sights.

Originally posted by Becoming
reply to post by bert666

 

You have to zero all electronic sights, that includes red dot sights.

yes i now that iam ex army breathing and trigger realise

Originally posted by bert666

Originally posted by James1982
reply to post by Quickfix

 

Red dots do not make your gun more accurate. They simply make it quicker to get on target. Iron sights and a scope will still give you better accuracy out of a firearm.

edit on 14-5-2011 by James1982 because: (no reason given)

red dot is good for close quarters and a scope for long range the scope has to be zeroed first once you work out you-er wind and elevation and distance

If you knew that then you wouldn't have only mentioned the long range scope as having to be zeroed in. No offense, but you being ex army doesn't mean anything. Not everyone in the Army uses scopes or electronic sights.

As for the rest of your post. I don't understand what the hell you are talking about when you said "breathing and trigger realise". You need to be clearer in the message you are trying to put out.

i haven't got a firearms licence i just go with my farther to the range and he takes an extra gat
ive got a air rifle that i shoot rats down the river and beer cans lol

reply to post by Becoming

sorry m8 iam crap at typing
what i was on about is breathing technique
slow trigger ie not snatching it
point freely on the target not forced
iam not saying that i now every think because iam not
of course you have to zero a red dot scope it douse not zero it self to the barrel
but feel free to rant at me all you want bye the way i past my sniper carter many years ago

reply to post by bert666


I'm not ranting on you, its just you're not making any sense. I mean, you don't even have a real rifle, only an air gun and then you say something about sniper carter. Which the only thing I can figuer out about that is that you are talking about the carter sniper paintball gun.

I even googled sniper carter, just the way you worded it to see if I could get another topic and the only one that pops up is paintball forums.

no m8 when i was in the army the last 2 years of my service i was a sniper in the britsh army
the carter is a term for a course like an English class we had to learn the history of sniping shooting stalking field craft all aspects of the job then we wear graded some pas and some fail it was hard
no all i have now is a air rifle
cant have a firearm because of mental health

reply to post by bert666


Whatever you say man. I don't know you from Adam, if you claim to be a sniper then thats who you are. Doesn't mean I believe you, your lingo doesn't square up enough for me, but in the end I am nothing but words on a screen to you so who really cares.

reply to post by Becoming


not a sniper any more that was years ago
i left the army with head gone i was having panic attacks i didn't leave my house for about 8 months
my kids helped me get what was left of my head back
now i just take a every day as it comes
but i love reading the topics on hear they really get you thinking sorry
if ive offended you in anyway

Originally posted by MJZoo
for a good, all purpose, accurate gun, look at the Ruger 10/22. there are a million of them out there for a good reason. they are cheap and dependable.

This.

I don't currently have a 10/22 (did at one time) but I do have a Ruger Mark II .22 semi-auto pistol that's a great little gun.