The Ox-Files: 'Mass cow sacrifices by aliens' sent White House into panic, FBI records reveal

In my opinion, "The Vault" and the sensationalistic media that is coming along with it are all part of getting the public ready for the false flag alien event that might actually be coming sooner than we think. All the Alien hollywood stuff lately as well, Katy Perry's #1 song right now is called "E.T." about an extraterrestrial, it's all over the place.

I stated and you seem to have ignored... The many witnesses and ranchers gave evidence of UFOs and NOT the government.

I thought all of this stuff was common info by now..

In this video witness says the helicopter was disguised to look like a saucer..

ALL of this stuff is designed as disinfo to make us think aliens are the culprit. I would bet the mutilations take place in areas where we develop and test antigrav craft -- the REAL Area 51s.. not the diversion.. area 51.

I have heard other "paranormal" stuff is done in this areas to frighten and confuse the public.. Watch both these docs and you see the pattern.. even remote viewing was tied into the alien disinfo.. all the government remote viewers claim alien contact.

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Originally posted by 8311-XHT

I stated and you seem to have ignored... The many witnesses and ranchers gave evidence of UFOs and NOT the government.

I thought all of this stuff was common info by now..

In this video witness says the helicopter was disguised to look like a saucer..

ALL of this stuff is designed as disinfo to make us think aliens are the culprit. I would bet the mutilations take place in areas where we develop and test antigrav craft -- the REAL Area 51s.. not the diversion.. area 51.

I have heard other "paranormal" stuff is done in this areas to frighten and confuse the public.. Watch both these docs and you see the pattern.. even remote viewing was tied into the alien disinfo.. all the government remote viewers claim alien contact.

video.google.com...#


7:20 mark - helicopters dressed up like UFO

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who knows actually ?? your guess is as good as mine...one thing for is that is not predators....even blind people can see that

Originally posted by primetime2123

Originally posted by 8311-XHT

I stated and you seem to have ignored... The many witnesses and ranchers gave evidence of UFOs and NOT the government.

I thought all of this stuff was common info by now..

In this video witness says the helicopter was disguised to look like a saucer..

ALL of this stuff is designed as disinfo to make us think aliens are the culprit. I would bet the mutilations take place in areas where we develop and test antigrav craft -- the REAL Area 51s.. not the diversion.. area 51.

I have heard other "paranormal" stuff is done in this areas to frighten and confuse the public.. Watch both these docs and you see the pattern.. even remote viewing was tied into the alien disinfo.. all the government remote viewers claim alien contact.

video.google.com...#


7:20 mark - helicopters dressed up like UFO

www.youtube.com...

who knows actually ?? your guess is as good as mine...one thing for is that is not predators....even blind people can see that

Well.. let's put it this way... if there were any aliens do you think the military would be doing stuff to make us look for them? They would likely know they were out there and would be trying to convince us there weren't aliens to keep us in the dark.. not tell their aircraft designers to make our craft look like saucers.

The point is.. there may be real aliens out there.. but that is a distant concern for us right now.. the important issue is what our governemnt is hiding from us and why... when we deal with that it will at least allow us to consider aliens as a possible issue. When I remove the alien issue now I feel I can see all the machinations of the government - everything suddenly makes perfect sense... but it's just as frightening...

I would rather live in a world where aliens are killing us than in a world where our government is so paranoid about dangerous technologies our lives are a lie and we are simply frittering away our lives until we die because of the suppression of knowledge. Who knows what mysteries of the universe we could actually unlock if our government allowed us to benefit intellectually from the scientific discoveries they have made.

If I'm not mistaken, some similar human mutillations have been reported in brazil.
Looks like the aliens are sending or making a subtle terrifying message

Originally posted by 8311-XHTwho knows actually ?? your guess is as good as mine...one thing for is that is not predators....even blind people can see that

Well.. let's put it this way... if there were any aliens do you think the military would be doing stuff to make us look for them? They would likely know they were out there and would be trying to convince us there weren't aliens to keep us in the dark.. not tell their aircraft designers to make our craft look like saucers.

The point is.. there may be real aliens out there.. but that is a distant concern for us right now.. the important issue is what our governemnt is hiding from us and why... when we deal with that it will at least allow us to consider aliens as a possible issue. When I remove the alien issue now I feel I can see all the machinations of the government - everything suddenly makes perfect sense... but it's just as frightening...

I would rather live in a world where aliens are killing us than in a world where our government is so paranoid about dangerous technologies our lives are a lie and we are simply frittering away our lives until we die because of the suppression of knowledge. Who knows what mysteries of the universe we could actually unlock if our government allowed us to benefit intellectually from the scientific discoveries they have made.
actually IMO the government has tried too hard to say that aliens don't exist ...to play off aliens as a joke or there is absolutely no possibility any unexplained UFO phenomenom is extraterrestial ....that stuff makes it look like they are hiding something...only until recently has that changed somewhat but not that much

Originally posted by primetime2123Well.. let's put it this way... if there were any aliens do you think the military would be doing stuff to make us look for them? They would likely know they were out there and would be trying to convince us there weren't aliens to keep us in the dark.. not tell their aircraft designers to make our craft look like saucers.

The point is.. there may be real aliens out there.. but that is a distant concern for us right now.. the important issue is what our governemnt is hiding from us and why... when we deal with that it will at least allow us to consider aliens as a possible issue. When I remove the alien issue now I feel I can see all the machinations of the government - everything suddenly makes perfect sense... but it's just as frightening...

I would rather live in a world where aliens are killing us than in a world where our government is so paranoid about dangerous technologies our lives are a lie and we are simply frittering away our lives until we die because of the suppression of knowledge. Who knows what mysteries of the universe we could actually unlock if our government allowed us to benefit intellectually from the scientific discoveries they have made.

actually IMO the government has tried too hard to say that aliens don't exist ...to play off aliens as a joke or there is absolutely no possibility any unexplained UFO phenomenom is extraterrestial ....that stuff makes it look like they are hiding something...only until recently has that changed somewhat but not that much

Many military people have claimed UFOs are real.. even with Roswell they said it was alein. i nitially. what's rule number one? If our milirtary/government tells us something it's likely BS.. the first thing they said is alien.. Even one of the military people after Roswell continued to say it was alien - Corso. Then you have John Lear who was the son of an aviation manufacturer making the most outlandish alien claims.. And his dad was hyping antigravity more than anyone before it went top secret.

The military remote viewers claim they contact aliens.. That's another weird thing.. the military hides everyhting yet they make Remote Viewing public knowledge and even supposedly train us how to do it.. a diversion IMO. The head remote viewer even wrote a book where he claimed aliens were on the moon and keeping us away from there., it's called Penetration.

But they do deny aliens too.. they put out disinfo and discredit it at the same time.. it's the same with Bob Lazar.. they discredit him intentionally but he has a veyr compelling story that has real info mized in to discredit the real info. And they also re-hired him to work on government projects.. again.. verify and discredit at the same time.

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Originally posted by 8311-XHT

I thought all of this stuff was common info by now..

In this video witness says the helicopter was disguised to look like a saucer..

ALL of this stuff is designed as disinfo to make us think aliens are the culprit. I would bet the mutilations take place in areas where we develop and test antigrav craft -- the REAL Area 51s.. not the diversion.. area 51.

I have heard other "paranormal" stuff is done in this areas to frighten and confuse the public.. Watch both these docs and you see the pattern.. even remote viewing was tied into the alien disinfo.. all the government remote viewers claim alien contact.

video.google.com...#


7:20 mark - helicopters dressed up like UFO

www.youtube.com...

I don't know if you were around in the 70s or how much knowledge you have on this topic. Read as much as you can about it.. preferably without internet sources.... You don't seem to understand what happened... as I mentioned before in a post on this thread... These days it's often a case of re-written history. You don't seem to know what happened.

A Witness claiming a helicopter was "made" to appear as a UFO is an anomaly in these cases. What are you claiming all the UFO's witnessed were such fake crap? These people saw what is called UFOs... Have you ever seen one? They didn't see FAKE UFOs... lol

Learn what happened. I'm about ready to file you right on the shelf with the UFO researchers who "wouldn't deal with cattle mutilations and UFOs as linked" I remember them, They were in ANOTHER CAMP, one I never respected. If you're like them AND the government that refuses to deal with the FACTS and Witnesses..... then consider yourself filed.

UFOs and cattle mutilation were part and parcel of the phenomena.. Thousands of Times.... Don't bring me "disinfo" about the government FAKED all those events..... Now maybe people can see WHY the ranchers in the U.S. were angry... VERY ANGRY... because of crap like this government UFO bullsh#. They often saw the helicopters AFTER a REAL UFO phenomena.....

It's a mind war man!!!... better learn what your "disinfo" buzzword REALLY IS ABOUT

Originally posted by Serafine
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Originally posted by 8311-XHT

I thought all of this stuff was common info by now..

In this video witness says the helicopter was disguised to look like a saucer..

ALL of this stuff is designed as disinfo to make us think aliens are the culprit. I would bet the mutilations take place in areas where we develop and test antigrav craft -- the REAL Area 51s.. not the diversion.. area 51.

I have heard other "paranormal" stuff is done in this areas to frighten and confuse the public.. Watch both these docs and you see the pattern.. even remote viewing was tied into the alien disinfo.. all the government remote viewers claim alien contact.

video.google.com...#


7:20 mark - helicopters dressed up like UFO

www.youtube.com...

I don't know if you were around in the 70s or how much knowledge you have on this topic. Read as much as you can about it.. preferably without internet sources.... You don't seem to understand what happened... as I mentioned before in a post on this thread... These days it's often a case of re-written history. You don't seem to know what happened.

A Witness claiming a helicopter was "made" to appear as a UFO is an anomaly in these cases. What are you claiming all the UFO's witnessed were such fake crap? These people saw what is called UFOs... Have you ever seen one? They didn't see FAKE UFOs... lol

Learn what happened. I'm about ready to file you right on the shelf with the UFO researchers who "wouldn't deal with cattle mutilations and UFOs as linked" I remember them, They were in ANOTHER CAMP, one I never respected. If you're like them AND the government that refuses to deal with the FACTS and Witnesses..... then consider yourself filed.

UFOs and cattle mutilation were part and parcel of the phenomena.. Thousands of Times.... Don't bring me "disinfo" about the government FAKED all those events..... Now maybe people can see WHY the ranchers in the U.S. were angry... VERY ANGRY... because of crap like this government UFO bullsh#. They often saw the helicopters AFTER a REAL UFO phenomena.....

It's a mind war man!!!... better learn what your "disinfo" buzzword REALLY IS ABOUT

Look.. I have told this story many times on here so my apologies for not filling you in already.. but my dad saw a flying saucer himself.. with his best freind driving on a highway out in the middle of nowhere in northern washington state in the late 60's. He saw it up-close-and personal. There was no way of msitaking what he saw. They sat there watching it for several minutes and it was at point blank range. My dad sent me a magazine that had a pic of the craft he saw.. and it was the exact same image Bob lazar made after he claimed to see these alien saucers.. and the saucer Lazar saw looked exactly like the saucer Billy Meier claimed he saw but were supposedly debunked. My dad did not know what that image was of when he saw it initially.

So if you are looking at this from my position it is obvious what is going on.. these are government crafts and Bob lazar and Billy Meier are government disinfo agents.. as was John lear.. whose dad was hyping antigravity in the 50s before it was made secret.

Nick cook's book Te Hunt for Zero Point documents the same thing.. the Germans developed this tech in WWII and we obtained it from them.

I suspect these cow mutilations were done to frighten the population makign them think these craft are alien AND to maybe test for harmful effects generated by this tech and other military tech. Also remmeber that the people reporting seeing UFOs on their ranches could aslo be governemnt disinfo agents...

Again.. WHY would the military make their stealth aircraft look like saucers and making helicopters picking up cows look like saucers?

All we have as evidence is our own military trying to convince us aliens are real.. and yet denying it at the same time. And we have documeneted evidence militaries are developing antigrav technology.

Those are the facts.. don't being confused by the disinfo.

Originally posted by 8311-XHT


Many military people have claimed UFOs are real..

Military people claimed UFOs are real?

Well of course UFOs are real, even a rock can be a UFO if I throw it over your backyard and you see the object but can't identify it.

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Good point

Also worth mentioning , if it was the army who wanted this notion of UFO's in the public as a means of misdirection , then is it any surprise that they are the ones issuing these reports ?

Originally posted by Skate

Originally posted by Diplomat

Originally posted by 8311-XHT


Many military people have claimed UFOs are real..

Military people claimed UFOs are real?

Well of course UFOs are real, even a rock can be a UFO if I throw it over your backyard and you see the object but can't identify it.

But the Military didn't see damn rocks fly past, you smarta$$. Why are you still here? I thought you hated ATS and that it was no fun anymore because "all the nice people left".

You should be a forum moderator for a dis-info forum.

Please tell me then, what DID the military people see?

They saw UFOs! lol, do you know what the acronym U.F.O stands for?

It's a flying object that is unidentified, which means it could be ANYTHING, yes, even a rock!

This shouldn't be confusing, it's pretty damn simple stuff.

You obviously missed my point, the point is that there is a HUGE difference between the terms "UFO" and "Alien Spaceship."

The guy I quoted said "Military people claimed UFOs are real." Well duh, of course UFOs are real, you might see a shiny balloon high up in the sky but can't tell what it is... guess what it is classified as? Yup, a UFO! lol, this isn't rocket science.

Originally posted by Diplomat

Originally posted by Skate

Originally posted by Diplomat

Originally posted by 8311-XHT


Many military people have claimed UFOs are real..

Military people claimed UFOs are real?

Well of course UFOs are real, even a rock can be a UFO if I throw it over your backyard and you see the object but can't identify it.

But the Military didn't see damn rocks fly past, you smarta$$. Why are you still here? I thought you hated ATS and that it was no fun anymore because "all the nice people left".

You should be a forum moderator for a dis-info forum.

Please tell me then, what DID the military people see?

They saw UFOs! lol, do you know what the acronym U.F.O stands for?

It's a flying object that is unidentified, which means it could be ANYTHING, yes, even a rock!

This shouldn't be confusing, it's pretty damn simple stuff.

You obviously missed my point, the point is that there is a HUGE difference between the terms "UFO" and "Alien Spaceship."

The guy I quoted said "Military people claimed UFOs are real." Well duh, of course UFOs are real, you might see a shiny balloon high up in the sky but can't tell what it is... guess what it is classified as? Yup, a UFO! lol, this isn't rocket science.

You would be right but these Military Officials are experiencing UFOs moving intelligently and doing all sorts of jumps in the skies.

I AM PRETTY SURE A ROCK CAN DO THAT...

Originally posted by Diplomat

Originally posted by Skate

Originally posted by Diplomat

Originally posted by 8311-XHT


Many military people have claimed UFOs are real..

Military people claimed UFOs are real?

Well of course UFOs are real, even a rock can be a UFO if I throw it over your backyard and you see the object but can't identify it.

But the Military didn't see damn rocks fly past, you smarta$$. Why are you still here? I thought you hated ATS and that it was no fun anymore because "all the nice people left".

You should be a forum moderator for a dis-info forum.

Please tell me then, what DID the military people see?

They saw UFOs! lol, do you know what the acronym U.F.O stands for?

It's a flying object that is unidentified, which means it could be ANYTHING, yes, even a rock!

This shouldn't be confusing, it's pretty damn simple stuff.

You obviously missed my point, the point is that there is a HUGE difference between the terms "UFO" and "Alien Spaceship."

The guy I quoted said "Military people claimed UFOs are real." Well duh, of course UFOs are real, you might see a shiny balloon high up in the sky but can't tell what it is... guess what it is classified as? Yup, a UFO! lol, this isn't rocket science.

You know what I meant.. why are you playing these games.. military people have claimed they witnessed saucers and that they were extra terrestrial.. such as Corso.

Ok so my question to you is why do you automatically believe Col. Corso?

Do you think it's impossible that he was somehow paid or forced to spread disinformation?

Why should we trust so easily someone who worked at the Pentagon of all places?

Where is his proof? All we have is hearsay.

Originally posted by Diplomat
Ok so my question to you is why do you automatically believe Col. Corso?

Do you think it's impossible that he was somehow paid or forced to spread disinformation?

Why should we trust so easily someone who worked at the Pentagon of all places?

Where is his proof? All we have is hearsay.

I agree. That was my point.. this is disinfo to suppress super technologies WE developed on our own. You tie aliens to it and it either discredits these super technologies or makes people believe they are out of our capabilities to acquire. Truth is they are very easy to make if you have the brain power necessary.

all i can say is..HOLY COW!!

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Bruce Maccabee confirmed at least one of the alien documents on the Vault was real because he received the same one through the disinformation act many years ago. Be careful of the trickery, because there are articles on the internest making it seem like Bruce thinks it a hoax, but they are the real disinformation.

The information about aliens abducting cattle and mutilating them is true. This coincides with research because about 2,000 cattle of the southwest US during the 70s were slain by humans. The other 8,000 were used for the alien agenda. The alien mutilated cattle looked much different than the ones by humans, the cattle's legs were stiff in the air upwards (one major difference). Police officers in some towns believed it was the work of aliens, especially in Colorado where the UFO related mutilations were occuring more than the black ops helicopter ones. I have shared some Colorado police officer statements from the 70s at the bottom, the police officers stopped talking after they were being misquoted by media.

Originally posted by Aquarius1
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Have you checked out Linda Moulton Howes work or read her book called An Alien Harvest published in 1989, she has been investigating cattle, horse, dog and cat mutilations for the past 30 years.

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I also have a friend Ted Oliphant who investigated cattle mutilations in Fyffe, Alabama. He in fact moved to the area for a couple of years and while there joined the Sheriffs department.

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Thank you Aquarius1, I doubt many here have seen both of Linda's Strange Harvest videos, only in the last year or so were they changed from VHS into DVD. These are the real deal for sure, they take you into what was really happening, and we can see it was the work of aliens. There are details in daylight mutilations occuring within an hour that seem to be far too advanced for any humans to perform.

"There is a very definite connection between the lights and the mutilations because each time we’ve had mutilations the lights have been seen. Big Mama looked like a huge brilliant star that would sit in one spot in the sky for ten minutes to an hour and a half and then suddenly disappear at great speed. Sometimes small lights would appear to drop out of Big Mama and then shoot off hori­zontally and vanish in several seconds. Sometimes, after the little ones drop down, you can look down on the ground and see one, two or three little ones down around there. When the little ones get done with whatever they're doing, then they join up with the big one and they disappear. We've chased it by plane without lights, we’ve chased it with cars, we've even taken men out before dark and stationed them in remote areas and we still can't get close and see what it is. It’s weird, very strange."
- Harry L. Graves, then sheriff of Logan County 1977

"One night Deputy Gary Cure and I were but watching Big Mama and it appeared that another light came out from underneath and in three seconds it just went out of sight it was moving so fast."
-Deputy Bob Stone Logan County 1977

"When the mutilations were really heavy in 1975 and 1976 the sheriff's office was getting reports of strange lights almost every night. We were receiving calls about lights daily and nightly and we had this one map plumb full of little colored pins, and then we started putting up our other map of where the mutilations were occurring and they were concentrated in the areas where the light reports came from. I'm not saying the mutilations are the result of UFOs but we think it stands a doggoned good possibility. We've talked about it among ourselves many times. It wouldn't surprise us a bit if one night we popped over a hill and in our headlights we'd catch a flying saucer and little green men mutilating a cow."
-Undersheriff Jerry Wolever Logan County 1977

William Waugh, undersheriff of Elbert County Colorado 1977 had many experiences with UFOs.

"What I had seen was just a big orange ball. That's what we'd see in the sky every time there was mutilation."
"I used to tell people there’s nothing to be afraid of. If they wanted to take people they would have taken them before they took cattle."

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