Inside info on comet Elenin (yes, you're being lied to)

hey guys

just found this on youtube first time posting so could be some help if elanin is indeed coming maybe these guys might jump in to help

www.youtube.com...

sorry to be off topic here but i have a question regarding this thing called Elenin and that is if the comet's path will be between earth and the sun , wouldn't it be difficult to see it because it will be always visible in the morning ( that's if its possible to see it in the day light) untill the 1st of november when earth will be located between the sun and the comet ?

reply to post by Broncs453


personally, i'm ditching where i live soon. its in a very bad place. i'm going to head to arizona, the hopi are expecting refugees. natural distasters are going to get much worse, and then a bunch are going to happen all at once. the earth won't be the same before elenin gets here. if i stay where i am, i'll die. when am i going to leave? i'm not sure yet, if any more of those prophecies come true, i'm gettin out of dodge.

i recommend you check out www.hissheep.org...

watch for those things happening. i'm pretty sure japan will sink before that comet gets here.

Originally posted by predator0187
Wait. Hitting the ISS? Couldn't it just move out of the way?

Pred...

Yep. Its a simple question and answer yet the idiots at nasa and msm make it seem bad.

ISS can be moved just like any other space object (satellite and space shuttle) using thrusters.

reply to post by DjWillow


Sorry....that video, those ideas, (Moon "crawling with aliens", and "NASA warned off") are just a lot of wishful thinking, trending into hoax territory. There are certain people who devote their lives, and earn a livelihood, from perpetuating such "beliefs"...book sales, DVDs, lectures, etc....

Think on it....the "warned off" bit? Makes no sense when you realize that there were NINE round trip manned missions, each unmolested. Not to mention, all the numerous unmanned, both USA and USSR in the 1960s and 1970s. Japan, India and more USA missions more recently.....

(and.....No, Apollo 13 was NOT interfered with....purely an accident, attributable to Human error, ultimately).

reply to post by Bob Sholtz

Havent been on this long but think you may be intrested in this and be able to ask NASA source for more info as there are different stories about this below are the OFFICAL VERSION AND AT BOTTOM ILL SHOW UNOFFICAL HOAX I THINK? hope you can help as would sure like to know if he could help us with this and other ATS members please HELP

IT SAYS PIC TOOK 28 MARCH 2011
"Cosmic blast in distant galaxy that has so far lasted for 11 DAYS puzzles scientists"

www.dailymail.co.uk...

NASA's Swift, Hubble Space Telescope and Chandra X-ray Observatory have teamed up to study one of the most puzzling cosmic blasts yet observed.
nasa-space-info.blogspot.com...[/ur


BUT NASA HAVE THIS on there site 2009 [url]http://imagine.gsfc.nasa.gov/docs/features/news/4may09.html

Images from the Swift Ultraviolet/Optical telescope (blue, green), and the Swift X-ray telescope (orange, red) of GRB which was detect on April 23, 2009. No visible light accompanied the burst, which hints at its great distance. The image is 6.3 arcminutes wide. (Credit: NASA/Swift/Stefan Immler)

Watch: Five years of Swift-discovered gamma-ray bursts. 1MIN LONG
Credit: NASA/Goddard Space Flight Center/Swift
www.nasa.gov...
or link to just vidwww.youtube.com...


HOAX FAKE VERSION

www.eutimes.net...

I myself think this to be more disinfo to create FEAR and the true motive of all the info is to distract from mans own SINS HOPE IM RIGHT.

Ive seen ufo and always hoped for contact.

i have found documents on NASA over the last three weeks detailing all sorts of things from half-day complete shut downs and farlough to earlier ridicule of ELENIN's capacity only to be proven wrong in the already gone future. when i searched again GONE, sometimes post to removal time is like 10 minutes or less??? i think its an unidentified leak or a sort of secret posting for mass quick view by persomel then removed before its used as evidence... either way one things for sure, NASA only looks out for NASA

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What feast day? please enlighten me, thanks.
2nd mandatory fascist pig line.

Updated trajectory of Elenin



more information about it, pretty detailed... Had to look... The article makes a good point "why fear monger over the chance of seeing a comet with the naked eye"

Not everything has to be smoke and mirrors when it comes to the cosmos....

secondly: if this thing is going to "hit" us next year; you would think that other agencies besides NASA, including amateurs and smaller observatories would be able to see it by now....

Source: Elenin Hoax

reply to post by DrNotforhire


quite a bit of cherry picking in that article. i also fail to see how the trajectory has been updated "a quarter of the distance from us to the sun" is what nasa is officially estimating right now.

i also like how you just created your account today. seems like the disinfo is flowing freely.

Originally posted by GreatScot
reply to post by Bob Sholtz

 

Havent been on this long but think you may be intrested in this and be able to ask NASA source for more info as there are different stories about this below are the OFFICAL VERSION AND AT BOTTOM ILL SHOW UNOFFICAL HOAX I THINK? hope you can help as would sure like to know if he could help us with this and other ATS members please HELP

IT SAYS PIC TOOK 28 MARCH 2011
"Cosmic blast in distant galaxy that has so far lasted for 11 DAYS puzzles scientists"

www.dailymail.co.uk...

NASA's Swift, Hubble Space Telescope and Chandra X-ray Observatory have teamed up to study one of the most puzzling cosmic blasts yet observed.
nasa-space-info.blogspot.com...[/ur


BUT NASA HAVE THIS on there site 2009 [url]http://imagine.gsfc.nasa.gov/docs/features/news/4may09.html

Images from the Swift Ultraviolet/Optical telescope (blue, green), and the Swift X-ray telescope (orange, red) of GRB which was detect on April 23, 2009. No visible light accompanied the burst, which hints at its great distance. The image is 6.3 arcminutes wide. (Credit: NASA/Swift/Stefan Immler)

Watch: Five years of Swift-discovered gamma-ray bursts. 1MIN LONG
Credit: NASA/Goddard Space Flight Center/Swift
www.nasa.gov...
or link to just vidwww.youtube.com...


HOAX FAKE VERSION

www.eutimes.net...

I myself think this to be more disinfo to create FEAR and the true motive of all the info is to distract from mans own SINS HOPE IM RIGHT.

Ive seen ufo and always hoped for contact.

In fact, no, redacting that, they're two entirely different bursts. The photos themselves make that clear.

elenin current trajectory?

I just checked the nasa page and it looks like at some point the comet(?) will come very close tho earth. This is the first time i have seen this simulation place the intersection so close

Originally posted by Bob Sholtz
I'm going to keep this short, but sweet. I have some inside info on elenin and its trajectory. NASA is worried that comet elenin will hit, (yes, physically collide with), the International Space Station (the exact phrasing was "nasa space station")

this will probably come to bite me in the ass...but i have a nasa source.

Are you sure that your 'nasa source' actually works for NASA, given they seem unaware of the correct name of the ISS?

And if they do, don't you think that they might just be telling you that to see if you're silly enough to believe it?

reply to post by NyxOne


YES THAT IS CORRECT GRB have never been observed in the same place twice check this link:
astronomyonline.org...

and heres some info from it for those who dont want to go there:

In The Beginning:

Gamma-rays[1] themselves are not a mystery. In 1952, gamma-rays emanating from astronomical phenomenon were thought to emanate from interactions between cosmic rays and interstellar hydrogen (Prantzos, 2005). Gamma-ray emissions were even detected from the Crab Nebula in 1961 by the United States satellite, OSO-3. However, these were relatively lower energy – in the range of 100 to 300 keV. Another US satellite, the OSO-7, detected gamma-rays from a solar flare in 1972. It wasn’t until 1973 that gamma-ray astronomy became a serious topic. During this time, the Cold War between the United States and Soviet Union was in full swing, and to “determine” if the Soviets were complying with the nuclear test ban treaty, the VELA series spacecraft was launched to detect higher energy gamma-rays – higher than those detected coming from the Sun or the Crab Nebula. While no atmospheric gamma-rays were detected, gamma-ray bursts lasting an average of 10 ms to 10 s were detected in random directions on the sky rather than from the Earth, with no detection occurring in the same place twice (Hurley, 2005).

In order to solve this mystery, the COS-B satellite was sent in 1975 to study these high energy sources of gamma radiation in detail.

Conclusion:

Much progress has been made in determining the true nature of a Gamma-Ray Burst. Continual observations by the SWIFT and HETE-2 space-based observatories with follow up observation using radio and optical telescopes have provided valuable data to mold the models that explain this phenomenon. As it stands, there are two types of Gamma-Ray Busts with two different models:

* Short Gamma-Ray Bursts – GRB events lasting 2 seconds of less, the result of which is the merging of compact objects like neutron stars
* Long Gamma-Ray Busts – events lasting longer than 2 seconds that are the result of a collapsar or hypernova, a type of supernova of a very high mass star.

While Gamma-Ray Bursts are primarily a cosmological event, there are a handful of events that have occurred closer to Earth. It is inferred that such an event probably assisted in the extinction of life on Earth millions of year ago.

The models that describe the Gamma-Ray Burst are in their infant stages, but this is a perfect example of observational data supporting computer and mathematical models. Additionally, further study using tools like SWIFT and HETE-2 will provide the continuum of data required to solidify these models.

leonid elenin worked on gamma ray studies - is this important? from a while ago before coemt discovery

reply to post by Bob Sholtz


I've been keeping track of the orbital elements and close approach data as published by JPL. Here is how it has been updated over time. As you can see, it becomes more and more accurate over time. Even the initial projections on February 23rd were very close to the most recent projections made 49 days later (within 125,250 km, or

reply to post by NyxOne


I know that but check out pics of more GRB and youll notice the sphere either side of them sometimes 1 or 2 but they always seem to be the same size check out the 2 in the first pic they look like they are the same like they are part of the event taking place

Think STAR TREK 2009 Romulan ET like race collecting energy from space who knows maybe us next lol

Originally posted by burdman30ott6
Well, here's the answer to most of the problems in this thread.
en.wikipedia.org...

Comet C/2010 X1 (Elenin) is a long-period comet discovered by Russian astronomer Leonid Elenin on December 10, 2010 at the International Scientific Optical Network's robotic observatory near Mayhill, New Mexico, U.S.A. At the time of discovery Elenin had an apparent magnitude of 19.5,[2] making it about 150,000 times fainter than the naked eye magnitude of 6.5.[5] The discoverer, Leonid Elenin, estimates that the comet nucleus is 3–4 km in diameter.[6] As of April 2011, the comet is around magnitude 15 (roughly the brightness of Pluto), and the coma (expanding tenuous dust atmosphere) of the comet is estimated to be about 80,000 km in diameter.

Emphasis mine.

An 80,000 KM coma equates to a 49,710 mile wide coma. I'd suppose that the projected distance this will pass from Earth has some sort of +/- margin of error. That means that the comet's dust cloud could very possibly contact the Earth. Now, this is extremely scary, but on the grand scheme of things probably not catastrophic. Dust and small ice particles would burn up in Earth's atmosphere and cause little more than a cool light show. The ISS, however, has no protective atmosphere. It would be like throwing an egg shell into a bead blaster if it passes through the coma.

One somewhat interesting thing I found while looking at this is the comment that the comet has a current 600,000 year heliocentric orbit but is highly subjected to perterbation from planets and, in short, they have no idea just how frequently it makes this pass by Earth. I then found this:
en.wikipedia.org...(stage)

Calabrian is a subdivision of the Pleistocene Epoch of the Geologic time scale. ~1.8 Ma.—781,000 yeas ago ± 5,000 years, a period of ~1.019 million years.

The end of the stage is defined by the last magnetic pole reversal (781,000 ± 5,000 Ka) and plunge in to an ice age

Not suggesting a link between Elenin & magnetic pole reversal, but I do find it somewhat intriguing. Not to mention the intrigue over the recent discussion of a possible mini-ice age and the fact that a full ice age heeled the previous pole reversal.

Thanks for this post. Additionally, I have been through 5 pages, now and haven't seen... has 'Bob' offered up his NASA source, yet?

Bob should not have to offer up his NASA contact. If he did we would lose any possible information in the future. The concern he mentions from the original OP is that the ISS could be in trouble which based on the trajectory and the estimated size of the coma would be a valid concern.