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Originally posted by Mr. D
Every great society that has let homosexuals reign has failed!
From Greece's Alexander the "Great" to Nero's Rome before
and since.......We are doomed to repeat history if we do not learn
from it. There would be no homosexuals if it wasn't for rape and
or child molesters as they would die out as a species since men
can not bear children.edit on 14-4-2011 by Mr. D because: changed have to bear
Originally posted by getreadyalready
reply to post by Mr. D
I've heard that before, but name any great society that hasn't failed and fallen?
Eventually they all go one way or another, so the example fails.
Also, homosexual children are usually born to heterosexual parents, and I'm not aware of 100% of homosexuals being abused as children? They are not a separate species, and they are not going to die out as a race.edit on 14-4-2011 by getreadyalready because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by Dendro
Originally posted by Mr. D
Every great society that has let homosexuals reign has failed!
From Greece's Alexander the "Great" to Nero's Rome before
and since.......We are doomed to repeat history if we do not learn
from it. There would be no homosexuals if it wasn't for rape and
or child molesters as they would die out as a species since men
can not bear children.edit on 14-4-2011 by Mr. D because: changed have to bear
Every society that has let heterosexuals reign has failed, too! Isn't that amazing?
You are absolute right, we are doomed to repeat history if we do not learn and you would think that between Suffrage and the Civil Rights Movement we would have learned that discrimination and ostracism don't work.
Originally posted by Dendro
reply to post by Mr. D
The presence of a "gay" gene does not constitute a new species. If that were the case than eye colour would separate us into specie categories which it doesn't.
The science/medical community aren't being "hush hush" about the presence of a "gay" gene. Some are hesitant to even establishing it because then what would stop people from aboring their children on the presence of the gene alone?
Originally posted by Dendro
reply to post by Mr. D
One of the most successful militant groups in history was the Sacred Band of Thebes made up entirely of warrior men who were gay.
Homosexuality has as much in common with pedophilia and bestiality as heterosexuality.
Originally posted by Dendro
reply to post by Mr. D
I hate to burst your ego bubble but the Sacred Band of Thebes weren't Egyptian but actually Greek. One of the biggest "claims to fame" is defeating the Spartans in 375 BC.
Yes, Greek philosophers believed that the greatest sex was between two men. They did encourage men to have relationships with young boys. Historically, it has actually been a common practice. But so has rape and incest. Perhaps with the Grecians you could make an association between pedophilia and homosexuality but you could do it just as easily with heterosexuality because they were having sex with young girls too. Historically, there was little to no concern about consent when it came to sex.
Originally posted by queenofsheba
When you're young, say eighteen or so, and first go into the military's basic training program; whatever that may be (mine was USAF)...you are stuck in a "dorm" with a whole bunch of strangers and of the same sex. Big, big difference from what you grew up with in your little small town or not so little small town you grew up in. Pretty segregrated in basic, not always a same-sex issue.
Let's move on...you go to your "school" where you learn your "trade", where your base person-in-charge provides kegs of beers for all these young kids to consume for a "reward" and let's see what happens in this scenario...maybe you get steered away into a small enclave, a dorm room perhaps, being intoxicated and maybe, just maybe the cute person you're with all of a sudden starts takin' your pants down, and before ya know it, someone's in ya...all in a matter of minutes. Maybe you're eighteen and far, far away from home and the next morning, ya see in in the mesh hall and almost want to ask yourself- was that just a dream?
I don't know...it's the whole herd mentality, throwing groups and groups of people together and what do ya get? My main reason for living a little life, with few outsiders, don't let anyone in. I never was in combat but wow...ya don't think alcohol isn't there, even provided by the military's PTB? What could happen most likely does, so I wouldn't be so quick to dismiss the possibility or the stats that suggest it happens. Unless you've been there...ya think it could only happen once?edit on 14-4-2011 by queenofsheba because: add line
Originally posted by Saracen1
Rape,child abuse and torture are endemic in the west. We`ve known this for years, women /girls get raped every Friday/Saturday night, most don`t even bother to report it.
Western society is rotten to the core, its in terminal decline.
Originally posted by queenofsheba
reply to post by Mr. D
Dorm room does not refer to a college room; where do you think they house their basic trainees? You don't get your own room. You're in a building together with cots lined up and ya get your own locker and your showers are open, meaning not private. Bathroom stalls were private, thank goodness, at least for us females.
How many young kids join the military because their outlook is bright and they have want to prosper in a new future for themselves? How many young kids that join leave their home because they have no bright prospects?
Alchohol was widely used, not in basic, but certainly at training, where you learn your skill to serve...mine was at Biloxi, and heck ya, it was a blast. But, you're thrown in with lots and lots of young kids who left their home for a new adventure and yeah, sex and alcohol was rampant.
Let's go further...say you're in Afghanistan or Iraq or what-have-you...you are so far away from everything you knew and you don't know what the next day will bring. Stuff happens, people are people and things just happen. Sometimes perhaps consensual, sometimes not. But I don't doubt for a minute that it happens to the guys, too.edit on 14-4-2011 by queenofsheba because: add line