Obama caves to Republicans again: Spending cuts may cost the lives of 70,000 children

reply to post by projectvxn

How many children will die if the US doesn't get its financial house in order?

those children will probably die anyway if not starved to death, then bombed at some point in the future

The government is in DEBT! What about this are we not getting? Taxation and profligate spending is NOT charity.

1- all taxation is theft
2- there is no deficit, unless it's a deficit of humanity in these reptiles
3- while you are all arguing about non existent debts TCOTBIP are rolling in the money and laughing at YOU.

CAFR School – A Lesson In Financial Accounting

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The Biggest Shell Game For Theft In This World's History!
Organized Government at all levels holds back it's Financial Statement from the people of America for over 50 years!
By Walter J. Burien, Jr.


Every city, county, state, and the federal government openly talks about the "budget" but keeps a virtually hidden, SECOND SET OF BOOKS which track the investments and Enterprise ventures worth TRILLIONS of dollars in tangible wealth they have built up and are spending from these virtually hidden portfolios as a result of investing YOUR skimmed money for over 50 years in everything from real estate to the stock market.

WHEN LOOKING AT THE "BIG PICTURE," ONLY 1/3 OF GOVERNMENT'S ANNUAL REVENUE COMES FROM TAXES, 2/3 COMES FROM RETURN ON INVESTMENTS AND ENTERPRISE / VENTURE PROJECTS. TO OFFSET TAXATION, NOT $1 OF THAT NONTAX REVENUE IS TIED DIRECTLY INTO THE ANNUAL "BUDGET" THAT IS SUPPORTED BY TAXATION!

Your city, county, state, and federal governments have LIED TO YOU for decades. With administrative restructuring of government, there is NO NEED FOR TAXES. Our governments are not broke, they are rich beyond measure with OUR money, and they are hiding it from the American taxpayer, investing, AND SPENDING IT while pleading they are broke and need more taxes, bonds and levies to survive. This being done as they blindly justify their obscene growth. BS! There is enough aggregate wealth owned by our government agencies to abolish ALL property and income taxes TODAY. You are being conned, lied to, ripped off, and financially raped.

just stay firmly lodged in your reptilicans vs. demonocrats crap this is why people have been enslaved by TCOTBIP for thousands of years you are being played like a fiddle.

reply to post by inforeal


I say close your eyes and cut 50% across the board, 50% of everything. let the chips fall were they may.

reply to post by inforeal

Domestically, Rajiv Shah, the head of USAID said if the cuts they’re insisting on this year go through, 70,000 children will die. I mean, there’s a human face behind these things.”

Really? And how many people will a US default kill? I bet it'll be way more than 70 000.

Enough with the lame arguments.

reply to post by Deja`Vu


don't forget the good ol' pork barrel spending.

accept non of that, too.

The present obsession with a budget deficit is only a ploy by Republicans to cut money they perceive going to minorities because behind their “principles” is a virulent racism that fuels their stinginess and concern for the budget deficit.

Indeed, this stignginess wasn’t in vogue when George Walker Bush was destroying the budget that was balanced by the Democrat Bill Clinton, while the Republicans had been in office for eight years under Bush.

It took the election of the first black president in history to bring out this Tea party movement so intensely stingy and obsessed with a balanced budget all of a sudden.

That latest explosion in the budget deficit wasn’t even done by Democrats but was initiated by George Bush and his Republican administrations bailout of the Banks in 2008 in which Obama had no direct involvement at the time.

AS FOR THE IDEA THAT BUDGET DEFICITS WILL RUIN THE ECONOMY . . .WELL NONE OF THE PAST RECESSIONS OR EVEN THE GREAT DEPRESSION OR THE GREAT RECESSION OF 2008 HAD ANYHTING TO DO WITH BUDGET DEFICITS.

Republicans are very selective about their regard of the budget deficit . . . so under a Republican president you never hear much about that because they are usually doing one of their wars or doing a massive military build up . . . then it seems the deficit doesn’t matter.

It only matters when money gets to woman and minorities to assist them out of poverty then all of a sudden the Republicans start to worry about where their taxes are going to.

When their taxes go to building huge weapon system that kill people then they don’t have any concern that their taxes go to that . . . . How sick these people are? Where are their priorities?

No, this recent concern for the budget by the Republicans is as phony as a three dollar bill.

reply to post by inforeal


Please do not Confuse Sincere Compassion with Psycological Manipulation . In this Case , it is the latter........

Why is it that we always end up in the same place? Instead of looking for real solutions we just look for someone to blame.

I think that many children may die as a result of many political decisions made. Wars, illeagle immigration, cuts to govt programs are just a few. Why is cutting this program, suddenly going to make things more catastrophic for children, than they already are?

The children that die will not be my children or grand children. They will survive no matter how many programs are cut. Per-haps the family is a little more important than some would like us to believe.

My solution: strengthen the family. Close and extended. No excuses just do it. Leave the Govt out of it. Problem solved. Not a penny spent. Don't have to worry about cuts.

Darlin, the Dems have you snuckered real bad. We are already the biggest single contributor to the UN and Japan comes in second. It's all designed to redistribute the wealth and subjugate us to the One World Totalitarian govt.

Oh yah, if you are into fighting the NWO, you better not think too highly of the UN, because the IMF and the World Bank are the financial arm of it.

There are too many do-gooders who think that the wealthy should pay for everyone else in the world, and yet when it all comes down to it, it's the middle class who pays. When will you ever get that? All it is is Totalitarianism. The UN will decide how much water we will get in the future. Rationing of resources is what they have in mind. Everyone will be equally impoverished because thats what communism does.

I really hope you do some real research instead of listening to a bunch of ideological politicians who try to make people feel guilty(just like Obama did tonight in that pathetic do gooder speech of his on the budget).

Oh and here's the wikipedia entry of the biggest contributors to the UN.en.wikipedia.org...
One more thing, if you expected the wealthy to pay for all those poor people in all those poor countries, you are in for a rude awakening when we can't even pay for the Socialised health care mandate just forced on an unwilling American populace.

hmmm as an amendment, I just read your post about how you have worked in lots of organizations, and I am wondering if any of them were UNICEF or March of Dimes or any number of NGOs affiliated with the UN.

It will not cost lives! That is just a flat out lie. If the repubs had it there way these cuts would SAVE lives by stopping the murder of babys.

Bush's spending is no more justified than any one else's, but frankly, Obama's focus on entitlements and redistribution of wealth woke up a lot of people. The debt problem has been building up because we have too many entitlements, and we have been borrowing from the Fed. The whole healthcare debacle is just as unrealistic as all the other ponzi schemes which have been forced on us by Totalitarians. You show your naivete when you talk about how wealthy people and T Partiers should not be stingy. Well I have news for you, it's the T Partiers who pay the taxes. Obama is protecting the most corrupt people while making us pay. The sonner you realize that the better.

Quite frankly the debt problem is directly related to the military adventures and the reseach dor better weapons planes etc...
There is mega dollars for killing, but pennies left over for pro life activity.
The priotities arescewed,,,There is a dearth of ways to kill now.We need new ways to live!
new power sources, new food science and methods.(non GMO)
The corporations who ,ake these blated [rofits should have their wealth skimmed to make the peoples budget work.
Whatever is needed for people gets skimmed from corporate taxes.
There should be laws governing the amounts of profits a corp can take in.Any overage goes to govt.

reply to post by inforeal


It is my children and grandchildren.....I am already spending my retirement supporting them when as citizens they are eligible for the aid they have applied for. And this Obama is not the Obama I voted for.

reply to post by DerepentLEstranger

1- all taxation is theft

I somehow don't think you would say that if the government stopped collecting taxes and services such as the fire department, police, and paved roads just sort of vanished.

2- there is no deficit, unless it's a deficit of humanity in these reptiles

I didn't know one could post to ATS from Bizzaro World!

reply to post by Holly N.R.A.


Or people could just wait until their able to take care of children to have sex; no birth control method is full-proof. People could donate the money that they save buying condoms and birth control pills to charities that could help kids in need. (Every dime helps!)

Wait. That's not the cool hip thing to say these days is it? Never mind.

Originally posted by centurion1211

Originally posted by Caji316
""I wonder where the soul, the compassion is, the empathy in those who don’t care that 70, 000 children, innocent children may die so the American budget can be balanced. Something they are not likely to accomplish anyway'.'"


The people running this country and the world do not have a soul nor empathy....

First, exactly where is this 70,000 figure coming from? I want to see something more reputable than the HuffPo ...

And another way to look at it is how many children of future generations might die if we don't fix the budget crisis now? Likely more than the BS figure of 70,000 people keep throwing around here ...

I wish there was some super star I could give you for this post.

In my honest Opinion I think Foodstamps/Welfare needs to go. WIC isnt a bad program, I work in a grocery store and deal with WIC all the time. All they get is Formula, Weat Bread, Egg, Milk, and Juice. A nice controlled system.

Now Food stamps is out of control and pisses me off. I work my ASS off, Pay bills, Pay rent, and can end up broke. Yet those people Bring 2 full carts into the line, get $300 worth of groceries, and swipe a card. all paid for by the Government.


Im sorry but Foodstamps should have a $50 a month limit, and your butt is eating Ramon Noodles and Mac n cheese.

Originally posted by inforeal
Where are their priorities?

Budgets are no more than a set of priorities, whether it is for a family, business, or govt. We are at a budgetary grand unveiling of a decades long push for an extreme right ideology, where "liberal programs" will be stamped out.

The Powell memo was the playbook for extreme right wing ideologues. And the ideologues with money (like the Koch bros) helped finance this putsch. The following from the memo....

The day is long past when the chief executive officer of a major corporation discharges his responsibility by maintaining a satisfactory growth of profits, with due regard to the corporation's public and social responsibilities. If our system is to survive, top management must be equally concerned with protecting and preserving the system itself. This involves far more than an increased emphasis on "public relations" or "governmental affairs" -- two areas in which corporations long have invested substantial sums.

So, the firing shot to be heard around the business roundtable.

Then, the personal paranoia of this extreme ideology is seen, as the battle plans are formed to go after citizens who go after abuses of corporations (NOT the destruction of corporations!).

There should be no hesitation to attack the Naders, the Marcuses and others who openly seek destruction of the system. There should not be the slightest hesitation to press vigorously in all political arenas for support of the enterprise system. Nor should there be reluctance to penalize politically those who oppose it.

And, finally, the conception of corporate K Street influence of govt. The "forgotten man" was a myth the ex right wring ideologist believed. It was not that business was "forgotten", it was that business hadn't yet taken over. Onward to legalized bribery to control what went on in the halls of Congress.

Yet, as every business executive knows, few elements of American society today have as little influence in government as the American businessman, the corporation, or even the millions of corporate stockholders. If one doubts this, let him undertake the role of "lobbyist" for the business point of view before Congressional committees. The same situation obtains in the legislative halls of most states and major cities. One does not exaggerate to say that, in terms of political influence with respect to the course of legislation and government action, the American business executive is truly the "forgotten man."

The situation now is so extreme, even David Stockwell, no Republican liberal, sounds off.

DS: But that vision has been subsequently crushed by 30 years of fiscal profligacy, warfare state adventurism and crony capitalist policies championed by the lobbies of K Street, the financiers of Wall Street and the farmers, homebuilders, energy producers and sick-care companies of Main Street. After the abomination of the Bush/Paulson bailout of the big banks, the state has no boundaries whatsoever. So fiscal policy is now just a fiscal food fight.

The fact is, the Bush tax cuts were unaffordable when enacted a decade ago. Now, two unfinanced wars later, and after a massive Wall Street bailout and trillion-dollar stimulus spending spree, it is nothing less than a fiscal travesty to continue adding $300 billion per year to the national debt. This is especially true since these tax cuts go to the top 50 percent of households, which can get by, if need be, with the surfeit of consumption goods they accumulated during the bubble years. So Congress should allow the Bush tax cuts to expire for everyone. By doing nothing, the government would be committing its first act of fiscal truth-telling in decades.

source

A funny thing happened, however, on the way to advance this extreme rightwing agenda for America. The US economy went global, and Powell's ideas to preserve America's businesses instead became a means to loot and destroy. I've watched since 1980 as the house was periodically looted; now the looters are coming back to dismantle the house.

Hows about the reptilians? Lets feed the children to the "reptiles" that control the Universe hahaha

I think laquanda who has 10 children from 15 different fathers will figure it out. I think if anyone dies of starvation in this obesity ridden county then its their own darn fault.

Originally posted by octotom
reply to post by Holly N.R.A.

 

Or people could just wait until their able to take care of children to have sex; no birth control method is full-proof. People could donate the money that they save buying condoms and birth control pills to charities that could help kids in need. (Every dime helps!)

Wait. That's not the cool hip thing to say these days is it? Never mind.

No problem with abstinence...if society is educated enough to "control" their urges. Most of society can not contain their hormones any more than lightening can be contained in a jar. Those that can abstain, more power to them.

The key word as usual...EDUCATION...and self control.

When I was in basic training for the Army in the early '80's, they put something in our food so we couldn't "get it up". Saltpeter I think they called it.

Get the picture?