Reason Why HARRP website down

Originally posted by REalBEL
No, just, they don't wont the public to see when they are running it or not.

And the website alone contains the only information of when HAARP is active?

Lol, do you know how much power it takes to run a website...... lol. Hardly any.
Do you know how much power they have for HARPP,, bwwha ha haha , A WHOLE friggen power station.

Yes and yes. I do not think the two are mutually exclusive.

For you to even think that a web server is even related to the power required for HARRP shows me you know nothing about it at all........... no, go do some research and come back with some knowledge.

But I don't think that - i was pointing out the ridiculous implication you made that website down = HAARP has been "activated" to "cause an earthquake".

I know full well how a website works. Have to write the bloody things.. All I was pointing out was how you came to the poor conclusion that because you cannot access HAARPs website means "someone nefarious" is up to no good.

You want me to do research? Ok. Point me to the scientific websites, the publicshed, factual documents that show how HAARP causes earthquakes. And no, I won't take another conspiracy thread or site as "evidence". I want to see published, scientific proof. Thing is, I haven't found any. But you seem to imply you have.

So please, show me the links. I love being wrong cos it means I learn something

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reply to post by Essan


No....it is not to divert more power...it is because they have real-time monitoring of the different layers of our atmosphere...if they are doing something that is altering the atmosphere, it will show on their data....all secrets out...so shut down the site right now and blame it on technical difficulties...geez...question your environment once in a while....if something is not right, ask why it is not right....

Hello folks,

Just a reminder. This is a conspiracy website, so posts like the OP's are more than welcome here. It's getting pretty old seeing the same old people automatically demanding proof of what is being claimed. This is a place to discuss things like this, not to derail threads that you don't agree with because of a lack of evidence. If you don't like it......LEAVE. Stop wasting our time with your insta-debunks and cookie cutter responses. It's as if you folks need hard evidence to confirm your own existence.

/Rant

Now, nobody seems to be accounting for the other HAARP's out there. There's more than one of them ya know. So while we are all going back and forth between here and the HAARP site, they could be firing up several other ones and we'd never know. IMO, if earthquakes can produce low frequency noises, then they sure as heck can be affected by them too. I believe it's possible that HAARP can affect plates that are already under high pressure. Sure, HAARP can't CAUSE eq's, but it certainly can add to the problem.

reply to post by noonebutme


If the military, or our government, or anyone else is covering something up, you are not going to find factual documents. Hence the word "cover-up". Then it would no longer be a conspiracy, right? But when correlations are occurring between events which are kept secret, hypotheses and theories are created. How could you not question it? Certain documents, such as patent documents and such must be disclosed. So we take this information and figure out what something, such as HAARP, is capable of. Now you must ask yourself if humans (in general) are capable of something, will they do it? The answer is always yes....Cloning, Atomic Bombs, Nuclear Weapons, Atom Smashing, DNA/RNA experiments, Biological weapons.......it does not matter what it is, if we have discovered that we can do something....we do it....

reply to post by CastleMadeOfSand


Well said Castle!

Yep, its just like the bomb they dropped on Japan. They need to test it out on people to see how good a weapon it was. They are doing the same thing with HAARP.....It will be perfected soon. They are real, real close now....Look for a 8.0 and above by the end of the month....

reply to post by REalBEL



Wow... something about you're post screams... ridiculous! First of all, HARRP can cause earthquakes.. is it down for this reason? I don't know. Maybe they don't want us seeing where HARRP is being pointed and maybe they don't want us tracking and keeping records to prove what they're doing. I don't know...

To blow the OP off like you did with such ridiculous comments.. is.. well.. ridiculous! You offered nothing in the way of facts.. just you're ...sarcasm. How are we to teach and learn by that?

reply to post by tracehd1


Wow , confused, I AM THE OP

Im not sure what your getting at

HARRP does not provide the energy of earhquakes it triggers them. ( This is a hypothesis)

The Elite are losing control of the populations, the economy is flawed, youth don't care about education just getting drunk and having sex at 11 years old.

For years the Elite have been talking about a cull and logically, I think one is around the corner.

Logically, a one world government could be good. With no sovereign countries, the need for arms would diminish. Budgets for military could be spent on improvements to the world.

It will all just depend if the leaders of the NWO will have a heart or not. If they are kind, it will be heaven. If they are cruel, we will all be screwed.

But, if a population is co-operating, the need for excessive police-laws-restrictions is not needed. When humans rebel, the superior "Gods" eradicate them and start again. Kingdom of Sodom ring a bell,

Look, we all know HAARP causes earthquakes. I know it can also be used to affect our minds - look at project bluebeam and all the efforts sought by the CIA into mind control. HAARP has bee with us since telsa. Anyone who believes their website propaganda is either lieing, ignorant, or a fool.

This is undeniable.

Unless you are a fool.

So what do we do to save ourselves??????

This is what we need to focus on - because we know that is, but how do we change it?

Huh???

reply to post by badw0lf


We bow down to the higher powers as a dog does to his master. If it is a physical battle, then we will never win, for when our large numbers storm all the places of power, they will drop the nukes and obliterate the world.

We can win by changing the sea of energy that surrounds us. By doing good in day to day life, having morals, and not ripping others off, we can create a world we wish to live in. Happiness is not based on money. Leaders will find their heart as we as there followers praise their leadership and help.

Like I said, by rebelling they just try harder to keep us down - wars, pestilence, disease.

This physical world is a lagging vibration of the mass thought by people. Fear not death, energy cannot be destroyed. Laugh, be brave, show your soul and tender heart, this takes courage and makes one happy at the transition of death.

These are EPIC days we live in. It is 2011. Wow.

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Originally posted by NonConformist1114
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Your link points here:
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1702 Starling Drive #104
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This is not a technical nor a scientific site. And, after reading some of their material on HAARP; I can say, with a very great deal of technological confidence; They have no idea what they are talking about. Just on their first page, I found many thing claimed possible with HAARP, that are, quite frankly, impossible for a radio-set of that description and configuration.

I kinda gotta be in the same camp as many others; Where is the science?"

Y'all make all these wild claims, but you have NOTHING to back it up, and worse; much of what is claimed is simply outside of the technology's scope.

reply to post by AnthraAndromda


Ah, but HAARP is a god. Disciples of any god attribute anything they cannot explain to said god. Hence, those who can't understand natural events attribute those events to HAARP. Just as in the past, earthquakes were attributed to Poseidon

Originally posted by Essan
Ah, so they close down their website in order to divert more power to the photon torpedoes

Seriously, does anyone think before they type any more?

btw, every single time ATS is down, there's an earthquake ...... Makes you wonder, eh?

edit on 8-4-2011 by Essan because: (no reason given)

Truly does make One wonder, . . as to what passes for logic in the non-technical world.

My little group of sites was down for a bit recently. No Earthquakes! I lost my server due ti a virus. Damn thing crept in despite my firewalls, anti-virus software, and advanced security. It took out the entire server, and databases ... took several days to rebuild it all.

The point is: there are many much more mndane reasons for a site going down, than to immeadiately think it's part of a covert operation. Although, my vote is for a Router.

Originally posted by REalBEL
reply to post by noonebutme

 

No, just, they don't wont the public to see when they are running it or not.

Lol, do you know how much power it takes to run a website...... lol. Hardly any.

Do you know how much power they have for HARPP,, bwwha ha haha , A WHOLE friggen power station.

For you to even think that a web server is even related to the power required for HARRP shows me you know nothing about it at all........... no, go do some research and come back with some knowledge.

Me thinks you should follow your own advice; "go do some research..." What you are claiming is not possible with the current configuration of HAARP. It is a HF radio-set; meaning it operates between 3MHz and 30MHz, and can not product the kind of signals you claim are required to cause earthquakes. HAARP can not and does not produce VLF in any form. The heating caused by their normak HF can only be minimal; based on the probable power output (an estimate based on the antenna array), and the heat dissipation properties of Earths Atmosphere.

Second; Do you think a "friggen power station" can supply the power required fo cause (trigger) earthquakes? A power station is capable of, at best, a few hundred megawatts. the power levels you would need would have to be into the Gigawatts. HAARP can't do that, and, just as important, there likely isn't enough electrical power in the state of Alaska

Originally posted by AnthraAndromda

Originally posted by REalBEL
reply to post by noonebutme

 

No, just, they don't wont the public to see when they are running it or not.

Lol, do you know how much power it takes to run a website...... lol. Hardly any.

Do you know how much power they have for HARPP,, bwwha ha haha , A WHOLE friggen power station.

For you to even think that a web server is even related to the power required for HARRP shows me you know nothing about it at all........... no, go do some research and come back with some knowledge.

Me thinks you should follow your own advice; "go do some research..." What you are claiming is not possible with the current configuration of HAARP. It is a HF radio-set; meaning it operates between 3MHz and 30MHz, and can not product the kind of signals you claim are required to cause earthquakes. HAARP can not and does not produce VLF in any form. The heating caused by their normak HF can only be minimal; based on the probable power output (an estimate based on the antenna array), and the heat dissipation properties of Earths Atmosphere.

Second; Do you think a "friggen power station" can supply the power required fo cause (trigger) earthquakes? A power station is capable of, at best, a few hundred megawatts. the power levels you would need would have to be into the Gigawatts. HAARP can't do that, and, just as important, there likely isn't enough electrical power in the state of Alaska

First off I'm not at all clear what you're referring to with "There isn't enough electrical power in the state of Alaska". Wasn't HAARP designed to use the immense natural gas fields there as a power source?

-->In 1988, OMNI magazine raised concerns about the environmental consequences of a bizarre electromagnetic invention. According to OMNI, ARCO, the US oil giant, found itself wondering what to do with the estimated 30 trillion cubic feet of natural gas that it hoped to extract from Alaska's North Slope. While this was enough energy to supply the US for a year, the gas fields were too far from any potential customers. ARCO concluded that it would be too expensive to liquefy the gas and ship it thousands of miles to urban centers. What was needed was a client that wanted access to vast amounts of energy on-site -- in the wilds of Alaska. Bernard Eastland, an MIT and Columbia University physicist with eight years experience with the Atomic Energy Commission, came to the rescue with an extraordinary plan to use the energy "at the point of production." Eastland, who soon became president of ARCO's Production Technologies International Company in Houston, proposed burning the vast Alaskan gas fields to power a huge electric generator. The resulting power would be directed into a huge antenna complex, 40 miles on a side. The antennae would be used to focus an intense beam of electromagnetic energy into the upper atmosphere where it would collide with the ionosphere to create a phenomenon called the "mirror force." Eastland was granted a US Patent (# 4,686,605) for this invention on August 11, 1987.

"You can virtually lift part of the upper atmosphere," Eastland told OMNI, "You can make it move, do things to it." One of the tricks Eastland envisioned involved 'surgically' distorting the ionosphere to disrupt global communications. Pushing the upper atmosphere around might also generate high-altitude 'drag' that could heat and deflect enemy missiles or surround them with "high-energy electrons" that might cause the missiles to detonate in mid-trajectory. The proposal appealed to the Pentagon, which invested several hundred thousand dollars 'evaluating' Eastland's work. Eastland maintained that there were 'peaceful' uses for his technology. In one scenario, he explained how beams of electromagnetic power could lift portions of the upper atmosphere and redirect the jetstream to alter global weather patterns. Using "plumes of atmospheric particles to act as a lens or focusing device," Eastland proposed redirecting sunlight and heat to different parts of the Earth's surface, making it possible to manipulate wind patterns, cause rainstorms in Ethiopia, drive hurricanes out of the Caribbean, incinerate airborne industrial pollution and sew up the hole in the Antarctic ozone layer. "Because the upper atmosphere is extremely sensitive to small changes in its composition," OMNI cautioned, "merely TESTING an Eastland Device could cause irreversible damage."

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edit on 10-4-2011 by Tecumte because: link added

Originally posted by REalBEL
reply to post by Essan

 

Yeah ok, your right. Ha, for me to think they shut down the monitoring site.

I am so stupid. As if, As if world leaders thought there are too many people and we need to reduce them. Thats just crazy. As if humans found a way to help earthquake trigger. Thats just crazy. Hey, buddy, are you really stupid or just paid to talk down important topics.

I dont care. I hope they use HARRP. Im on your side ELITE. I think we do need to reduce the population.

There, handle that

should help them out by offing yourself. would do us all a favor too....

reply to post by Tecumte


Okay ... rather interesting.

But, where did they build that power plant? And, where is the 1600 square mile antenna array?

I'm not going to say, at this time, that what was said in the article was BS, but, I don't see any hardware. What HAARP has, and what they have to work with, still does not contain suffecient electrical power to go beyond weather modification.

It is also kind of amazing that ARCO could be that short sighted.

Just did some checking: Alaska has an installed generating capacity of arounf 2.5 Gw (gigawatts)., So, unless the state goes dark when they operate the device ...

It is not about harrp at all. what i am about to say, you will undenyably agree by putting two and two toghether as i gather up the info and place it all right in front of you. hold on now, let me gather.