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Originally posted by hmdphantom
ok. do you want me to change my question ? I do as you please.
why are the people here on ATS mostly trying to discuss politics mostly and they refuse to talk about religion.
another Q : can't a religion based dominion rule democratically ? so you can discuss what the gov is doing right now due to religion ?
thank you for the reply.
New York Historical Society President and Columbia University Professor of History Kenneth T. Jackson describes the Flushing Remonstrance as "the first thing that we have in writing in the United States where a group of citizens attests on paper and over their signature the right of the people to follow their own conscience with regard to God - and the inability of government, or the illegality of government, to interfere with that."[12]
Given the wide diversity of opinion on Christian theological matters in the newly independent American States, the Constitutional Convention believed a government sanctioned (established) religion would disrupt rather than bind the newly formed union together. George Washington wrote a letter in 1790 to the country's first Jewish congregation, the Touro Synagogue in Newport, Rhode Island to state:
"Allowing rights and immunities of citizenship. It is now no more that toleration is spoken of, as if it were by the indulgence of one class of people, that another enjoyed the exercise of their inherent natural rights. For happily the Government of the United States, which gives to bigotry no sanction, to persecution no assistance requires only that they who live under its protection should demean themselves as good citizens, in giving it on all occasions their effectual support.[13]
There were also opponents to the support of any established church even at the state level. In 1773, Isaac Backus, a prominent Baptist minister in New England, observed that when "church and state are separate, the effects are happy, and they do not at all interfere with each other: but where they have been confounded together, no tongue nor pen can fully describe the mischiefs that have ensued." Thomas Jefferson's influential Virginia Statute for Religious Freedom was enacted in 1786, five years before the Bill of Rights.
Most Anglican ministers, and many Anglicans, were Loyalists. The Anglican establishment, where it had existed, largely ceased to function during the American Revolution, though the new States did not formally abolish and replace it until some years after the Revolution.
Originally posted by hmdphantom
why are the people here on ATS mostly trying to discuss politics mostly and they refuse to talk about religion.
Originally posted by hmdphantom
can't a religion based dominion rule democratically ?
so you can discuss what the gov is doing right now due to religion ?
Originally posted by woodwardjnr
reply to post by hmdphantom
If I can reply as a Major British person, we like to keep politics and religion seperate here if we can. Religion has no place in politics. It's for people to believe what they want but dont bring those beliefs into the political domain.
Originally posted by mrjones7885
The real question is did our forefathers make the right decision separating religion from government?