Revised to 7.1 IN JAPAN NOW TSUNAMI ALERT ISSUED, several nuclear power plants on emergency power

reply to post by EarthCitizen07


Well, unfortunately for you my friend, I do understand the left/right Hegelian dialectic quite well, and yes there is a left and a right, although Sutton says they are artificial, and the conflict creates the synthesis. See Prof Antony Sutton's books outlining how this works, and dont just take the surface understanding of it. Obama is very decidedly Left hegelian. There are factions involved and yes they do compete. Think of it as different mafia families. They are all mafia but they shoot each other over territories.

Here is an excerpt from Sutton www.prisonplanet.com...

Probably the most difficult task in this work will be to get across to the reader what is really an elementary observation: that the objective of The Order is neither "left" nor "right." "Left" and "right" are artificial devicces to bring about change, and the extremes of political left and political right are vital elements in a process of controlled change.

The answer to this seeming political puzzle lies in Hegelian logic. Remember that both Marx and Hitler, the extremes of "left" and "right" presented as textbook enemies, evolved out of the same philosophical system: Hegelianism. That brings screams of intellectual anguish from Marxists and Nazis, but is well known to any student of political systems.

This manipulation of "left" and "right" on the domestic front is duplicated in the international field where "left" and "right" political structures are artificially constructed and collapsed in the drive for a one-world synthesis.

So, my friend, yes I've been studying Sutton since the 80s and I'm very aware of how this operates. The fact of the matter is that things do swing from right to left as we've seen in the election of 08. Yes, the NWO operates out of both factions. Yes, the Left Hegelians are very busy right now.

I do agree with most of what you say though.

Originally posted by Zixo1
Do you HAARP people have any idea how many energy is released during an 7.1 earthquake ? 1000 then Hirosima.... If you can generate, store and send that kind of energy, you are Chuck Norris

And not to mention if americans have it.. japanese have it too, just much much smaller, like a mobile phone or something.

Richter magnitude Approximate TNT for Joule equivalent
Seismic Energy Yield
7.1 1.5 megatons 6.2 PJ - PETAJOULE


Terajoule
The terajoule (TJ) is equal to one trillion (10 000 000 000 000) joules. About 63 terajoules were released by the atomic bomb that exploded over Hiroshima.[9] The International Space Station, at completion, with a mass of 450,000kg and orbital velocity of 7.7 km/s,[10] will have a kinetic energy of roughly 13 terajoules.

Petajoule
The petajoule (PJ) is equal to 10 000 000 000 000 000 joules.

Check out the wiki...

Indeed earthquakes release very large amounts of energy.

But remember that adjacent plates build up pressure until they give and quake naturally.

I could envisage a quake being triggered using relatively modest power when resonance is used. Especially if the region is already highly stressed and close to quaking anyway.

Think avalanche, if you throw a 100lb fridge down the slope then you can see many millions of lbs of snow fall.

reply to post by chiefsmom


I wondered the same thing..made a big mistake few days back..can't see good etc and thought they
had another big one...not..not at that time. Some think this is being done to them because of their lack
of financial corporation..well who knows really but let's hope things do settle down much as possible
and these people can recuperate.

reply to post by EarthCitizen07


i'm sorry but alchemy in the middle ages has nothing to do with the functioning of the NWO today, unless you are referring to the occultic practices of Freemasons. Are you one of those people who thinks that alchemy is some kind of evil witch doctor stuff? This is what happens when you get a little bit of knowledge.

books.google.com... s85Dys04qh4x6UQVRE&hl=en&ei=RneeTcjPI42gtwevkPH4Ag&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=4&ved=0CDAQ6AEwAw#v=onepage&q&f=false

It is true, that many of the early alchemists were the forerunners of the modern sciences. Physics and chemistry are indebted to these early ‘puffers' as they are despairingly called, for from their hours of sweat and travail, a host of modern advances came: porcelain, alcohol distillation, acids, salts, and a variety of metallic compounds, are the results of early alchemical experiments.

source hermetic.com...

Originally posted by cortex

Originally posted by Zixo1
Do you HAARP people have any idea how many energy is released during an 7.1 earthquake ? 1000 then Hirosima.... If you can generate, store and send that kind of energy, you are Chuck Norris

And not to mention if americans have it.. japanese have it too, just much much smaller, like a mobile phone or something.

Richter magnitude Approximate TNT for Joule equivalent
Seismic Energy Yield
7.1 1.5 megatons 6.2 PJ - PETAJOULE


Terajoule
The terajoule (TJ) is equal to one trillion (10 000 000 000 000) joules. About 63 terajoules were released by the atomic bomb that exploded over Hiroshima.[9] The International Space Station, at completion, with a mass of 450,000kg and orbital velocity of 7.7 km/s,[10] will have a kinetic energy of roughly 13 terajoules.

Petajoule
The petajoule (PJ) is equal to 10 000 000 000 000 000 joules.

Check out the wiki...

Indeed earthquakes release very large amounts of energy.

But remember that adjacent plates build up pressure until they give and quake naturally.

I could envisage a quake being triggered using relatively modest power when resonance is used. Especially if the region is already highly stressed and close to quaking anyway.

Think avalanche, if you throw a 100lb fridge down the slope then you can see many millions of lbs of snow fall.

I agree, but then you have to precisely know where and when it will happen or the energy usage will rise.. In other words if us know how to predict earthquakes, why they let califormia shake ? Also even if you do it somehow using the ionosfere, pole shifting or whatever nonsense, you will need equvivalent energy or more... Also avalnche is downhill.. earthquakes come from inside the earth to surface during the lava circulation cooling/heating...Heating up the lava system could be the other way, but again you need energy .. a lot ! Its like pulling a whale with horse leash.

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For all we know, Russia could have used scalar weapons against Japan. They were using Tesla technology way back in the 80s, and I always thought they used psychotronic warfare to make President Reagan sick when he went to visit. Again, Japan has been our ally for some time now and are part of the Tri lateral configuration. I do not believe for one minute that our present POTUS is aligned to US national Sovereignty. That's my story and I'm stickin to it. I mean look, POTUS has dissed all our allies from WWII and aligned himself with all the Russian axis allies. People need to really wake up and smell the brew. He is a communist sympthasizer through and through. He's even appointed outright self-acclaimed communists to key decision making posts. By the way thanks for that link on Google, found some stuff on Russia...

Closing Ranks

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Originally posted by Mike.Ockizard
reply to post by wcitizen

 

Great logic. They do it because they have twisted logic and don't care if it kills them or harms the ones they love. Oh, I forgot. They don't love anyone.

They are only fooling the most intelligent people.

Did you watch the phil schneider videos where he talks about 1,400 dumbs worldwide? I understand there could be a need for continuity of government for natural phenomena but with the PTB awful track record of deceit, wars, overspending, excessive secrecy.......its becoming increasingly difficult to distinguish the good guys from the bad guys.

Why are you convinced secret societies do not have depopulation and world government as their agenda? I am asking you a serious question so try not to deflect me with sensational bull#. Everyone is getting more pissed then they can afford, so just be careful!

Perhaps there are some other forces which have come ito play to cause thi mass shifting effect.
The Gravitic interactions of the planets coupled with the altered earths gravity frm melt water,High energy levels in the solar surface causeing CMEs indicate some kind of tremedous forces origonating from the sun.
Maybe the is something to the idea of gravity waves travelling through the solar system?
To me , with so much activity going on, there must be some shift in the gravity equation to cause the readjustment.

(already posted, but gets my vote)
Maybe not nibiru or plante x, but some other influence?

Originally posted by daggyz
reply to post by Pharyax

 

Why does the earth need to calm down? Because you don't undertsand what it's saying?

The earth cannot calm down, it's on a course and it must get there and we will ride it. Stress does nothing. Worry does nothing. You culd walk outside tommorrow and be run over by a car... will you stay inside just in case?
Relax people or find a place of peace. That place of peace is inside but beware, it will require a few things of you that may be scraier than an earthquake becuase the effects of it will go on for a very long time.

What course is it on? Why can't it calm down? Why do you personify the earth? It is not a biological entity!

Are you a pagan? That could explain a lot I guess..........

Originally posted by EarthCitizen07

Originally posted by Mike.Ockizard
reply to post by wcitizen

 

Great logic. They do it because they have twisted logic and don't care if it kills them or harms the ones they love. Oh, I forgot. They don't love anyone.

They are only fooling the most intelligent people.

Did you watch the phil schneider videos where he talks about 1,400 dumbs worldwide? I understand there could be a need for continuity of government for natural phenomena but with the PTB awful track record of deceit, wars, overspending, excessive secrecy.......its becoming increasingly difficult to distinguish the good guys from the bad guys.

Why are you convinced secret societies do not have depopulation and world government as their agenda? I am asking you a serious question so try not to deflect me with sensational bull#. Everyone is getting more pissed then they can afford, so just be careful!

I would have to agree with you, but Im wondering when POTUS and his staff are going to hide out in their caves. Obama is out campaigning at present.

Originally posted by vermonster
A reporter on Aljazeera just reported that this earthquake is '33 times' weaker than the previous march 11 quake.







33 eh...........

If you pay attention that number pops up frequently in the news.

Not that it has to be said again, but there is way too much information to dismiss this as coincidence or simply bad luck as the planet "naturally evolves". If this is simply geographical "naturally occuring" change then all earthquake science should be pooled and future aftershocks should be more predictable and a preparedness plan put into action. Either way this is a terrible event for Japan.

Originally posted by ThirdEyeofHorus

The answer to this seeming political puzzle lies in Hegelian logic. Remember that both Marx and Hitler, the extremes of "left" and "right" presented as textbook enemies, evolved out of the same philosophical system: Hegelianism. That brings screams of intellectual anguish from Marxists and Nazis, but is well known to any student of political systems.

Hitler and mussoloni were both socialists. Stalin who derived communism from karl marx, developed the soviet union into a communist nation. It had NOTHING to do with socialism except in name.

The extreme right and left you mention fails to include capitalism which is supposedly far right of the political spectrum.

Socialism is the middle of the road eco-political system.

This manipulation of "left" and "right" on the domestic front is duplicated in the international field where "left" and "right" political structures are artificially constructed and collapsed in the drive for a one-world synthesis.

How can we have a one world synthesis when capitalists are at the throat of both socialists and communists? A one world government, which I hope never happens any time soon, will be 100% capitalist because the elite have already cornered all the worlds resources for themselves. The elite are greedy-they want everthing for themselves thats why both socialism and communism are "dirty".

So, my friend, yes I've been studying Sutton since the 80s and I'm very aware of how this operates. The fact of the matter is that things do swing from right to left as we've seen in the election of 08. Yes, the NWO operates out of both factions. Yes, the Left Hegelians are very busy right now.

If you think obama really is a socialist then I am afraid you are very, very, very naive. He is a mild capitalist where bush and reagan where moderate and extreme capitalists respectively. I post my words as careful as possible to avoid confusion.

Hello Everyone out there.
This is my first post here and I would like to tell you all about my morning. I live in Southern Wisconsin and arrived at my shop this morning at about 9 am cst. I was cleaning my shop when I heard what sounded like a low flying Jet. This roar lasted only 10 seconds or so and stopped as suddenly as it started. I went out the back door to listen but nothing. I went back to work and a few minets later it started again and was louder then the first time. I looked at my cell phone and it was 9:32 am. Same time as the quake in Japan. Think there is a connection. I was also talking on my cell later in the day ( Today ) and my phone went dead at the same exact time my XM radio lost its signal. My phone turned its self off. Very strange indeed.

Originally posted by WooWoo
Hello Everyone out there.
This is my first post here and I would like to tell you all about my morning. I live in Southern Wisconsin and arrived at my shop this morning at about 9 am cst. I was cleaning my shop when I heard what sounded like a low flying Jet. This roar lasted only 10 seconds or so and stopped as suddenly as it started. I went out the back door to listen but nothing. I went back to work and a few minets later it started again and was louder then the first time. I looked at my cell phone and it was 9:32 am. Same time as the quake in Japan. Think there is a connection. I was also talking on my cell later in the day ( Today ) and my phone went dead at the same exact time my XM radio lost its signal. My phone turned its self off. Very strange indeed.

Around that time for me, I lost internet, took a while to get it back on. No apparent reason why it wasn't working in the first place. Anyway, these things may just all be coincidences.

Well here's what I'm taking from all this. The idea that Japan isn't doing enough just doesn't seem right to me. If your wooden house situated very close to a billion other wooden houses and was was on fire, I don't think you'd really be concerned about saving the other houses. Your drive it seems to me would be to save your own house at any cost. Saving the community would be a direct result of that effort. The community would and should give all the help they can muster to help you save your house and here the logic is reversed. Your community wouldn't give a rat's butt about your house, they'd just be trying to save theirs by helping you. Since it is Japans house that is burning I am willing to bet they are doing everything they can amid their devastated area "to save their house". Before this massive quake all must have been going according to plan, consumers were delivered their power needs and Tepco were making money, smiles everywhere! Perhaps there were concerns regarding a possible tsunami or mega quake and the chair of some future board meeting was intending to bring that forth for discussion but for the moment there were lives to live and money to be made ergo it never got tabled and even if it did, it was too late...The SHTF! In the event of this technology going south we will always be in uncharted waters, consider how long it took us to effectively battle common house fires. Fukushima has different dynamics than Chernobyl or TMI as disasters go and probably the biggest difference is it's a disaster within a disaster. Scientists tend to be problem solvers by nature and I'd be willing to bet there are many doodling right now on a Denny's napkin on how to end this crisis. I think you have to look at this as an Apollo 13 type incident, there hadn't been an explosion on a ship just into its voyage to the moon...There were no procedures for such an event and yet they brought three guys home safely. I think the Fukushima incident is in the same league, there were no procedures for such an event. There will be consequences worldwide from this disaster including higher cancer rates, food shortages and problems with supplying parts for some Japanese manufactured products. At the end of the day though, I think Japan by itself or with the help of the community will put this issue to rest eventually though sadly I believe many lives will be lost or altered in the meantime and beyond. The real crime here will be if none of the other nuclear plants in the world take this information and say "We have to better prepare the safety of our industry in view of what we've seen go down in Japan" I can assure you that those questions are on the table at this moment in the boardrooms of most nuclear facility endeavors. Sadly I believe that discussions will be had and viable solutions proposed but at the end of the day, cost will dictate compromise, short cuts will be taken and we will eventually deal with this all over again. We demand hoards of power playing our little game and right now, to meet that demand it's either fossil fuels or Nuclear plants with a smattering of help from green tech so the problem will occur again.

Originally posted by Gazrok
Oddly enough, MSM is really not playing this up much. On CNN for example, you have to basically hunt for the story... I hope the effects are really as minor as they are currently being reported.

hats simply not true , america isnt the only country with HARRP technology !
russia has it as well , on the numerous threads on here about HARRP there are pictures of the sites
all over the world

It's pretty speculative that ANYONE has tech capable of creating a major natural disaster. The amount of energy involved is incredible to say the least. For example, we could drop a few large nukes in the eye of a hurricane, and barely even make a dent in it...yet we're supposed to believe we have some device capable of generating 9.0 earthquakes and tsunamis? I'm just not buying it.

If we DID have it, we certainly aren't using it to benefit ourselves, and thats probably the biggest evidence against it, right there. Where was HAARP to turn away Katrina, for example? Ridiculous. (although I'm sure some will blame it as the CAUSE of it....you have to ask...what's to gain? Simple...no answer there).

edit on 7-4-2011 by Gazrok because: (no reason given)

How do you know it's not being used to benefit outselves? Do you know the agenda of the people using HAARP? Hardly evidence. Just sayin. Open your mind.

reply to post by EarthCitizen07


Hitler and Mussolini were fascists, not socialists. Huge difference. Google it. Fascism
caused World War II, it shouldn't be confused with any other political system, we should
know better than that.

As for Japan earthquake, I have to say that scientists are saying that when a major shock
occurs, the possibility of a strong aftershock, maybe even an equivalent to the main shock,
is very high for the next twenty years.

I don't know much about HAARP though, so can't really say anything. But it is weird that their website was down the last two days. Is that normal?

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