Trump sends investigators to Hawaii to look into Obama !!

Originally posted by beijingyank
Why it makes perfect sense to me. If someone sues me to produce a public document that would cost me $12, why it makes perfect sense to hire a team of lawyers and ring up a legal bill of $2,000,000 "no matter how ridiculous the lawsuit is."

A birth certificate is not a public document. If it was, you could get a copy yourself. It's a private document and only the person or his family can get it.

Originally posted by Benevolent Heretic

Originally posted by beijingyank
Why it makes perfect sense to me. If someone sues me to produce a public document that would cost me $12, why it makes perfect sense to hire a team of lawyers and ring up a legal bill of $2,000,000 "no matter how ridiculous the lawsuit is."

A birth certificate is not a public document. If it was, you could get a copy yourself.

It's a private document and only the person or his family can get it.

Yes and when you are the leader of a nation and your people demand that you prove that you're one of them I think that whole private and public document arguement goes out the window. The man isnt trying to keep a job at Burger King. He's the president of the United States.

Originally posted by AndrewJay
Yes and when you are the leader of a nation and your people demand that you prove that you're one of them I think that whole private and public document arguement goes out the window.

You may think that, but you'd be incorrect. When a person becomes president, they don't lose their privacy rights. You can argue with the law, but that's the way it is.

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I love that Donald Trump is making it an issue on the front pages.

His megaphone is very powerful....one of the few people that can go straight at the question without being dismissed by the lamestream media who for some inexplicable reason still carry water for this Poser.

I heard a story today on the radio that at one time....NYC was having a helluva time getting the Central Park ice-skating rink ice to freeze. No ice? No skating rink.

Donald Trump told the city to get out of his way and he would come in on time and under budget. He delivered.

Just what we need today sitting in the Oval Office, IMHO.

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BH, at first I thought Trump was a joke.
But the more I talk about him, and the more people debate against him or for the other candidates, the more I support Trump.

With the viable candidates at this time: Obama, Trump, Palin, McCain, Paul, and Hillary........

I have to say it would be a toss up between Hillary and Trump.
I'm not proud of it, but I'm not proud to say I voted for Obama on the last go around either.

Its kind of like choosing between "feces" on toast, or "feces" on crackers.

Now, more importantly, would you support me for president? I have no money, and I have filed bankruptcy twice myself, so I am not much better than Trump in that regard. BUT, I am honest, sincere, open-minded, and have two decades of leadership experience. I think we need a regular Joe that wants to serve for purely patriotic reasons. That is a guy like me. I'm sure I won't be on any tickets, but we need to find and support someone along those lines.

Originally posted by mormonmike
For all that's being discussed here, You people need to remember how the Fed Gov works, or are we dis-regarding what happened to Karen Silkwood, Vince Foster, etc. Should Obama be exposed for the fraud I have very good reason to believe, The last thing in this world Don Trump or his team investigators would want to do is get on board an airliner. Mark my words...... MM

Uh.....thanks for trying to ruin my Friday nite buzz!

Originally posted by DazedDave
You guys freaking kill me. I can't believe such a ridiculous, mindless conspiracy theory still exists.

You seriously think that a man who was not born in America could possibly be named president? You must think of your country as some Mickey Mouse institution where everything is based on handshake agreements and nothing is verified.

Do you honestly believe that his birthplace was not verified before he was made a candidate for presidency?

Do you honestly think that the Democrats would risk placing all their hopes on a guy who isn't even allowed to be president? On what was probably the most important election for the Democrats in recent history? REALLY?

I mean come on...The fact that this is still being debated, to me, shows that it's quite clearly a joke of an issue. If this was some big, huge secret that could destroy Obama and his administration, and there was some crazy papertrail that a bunch of internet detectives and a guy with lots of money and free time could easily track down, don't you think the conspirators would do more to squash the issue?

I'm pretty sure the Democrats and the CIA have access to Adobe Photoshop. They could have whipped up a fake BC that would have shut everyone up and this never would have been an issue. The fact that they didn't even bother shows that nobody actually takes this seriously.

I mean, these are the same people that apparently managed to ram a bunch of holographic planes into a building and then detonated magic bombs that nobody can remember ever being installed.

IMHO, you'd be surprised what 'political correctness' can accomplish.

Once he gave that convention speech in 2004, the American Idol culture and political correctness took care of the rest.

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One should engage brain before typing dribble.

public document

Definitions (3)

1. Document issued or published for public knowledge.

2. Document (such as court records, land deeds, and public registers) authenticated by a public officer and made available for public reference and use. Statements by public officers in such documents in their official capacity are admissible evidence of fact in civil matters. Also called public record.

3. Described by the 1961 'Hague Convention Abolishing The Requirements Of Legalization For Foreign Public documents' as (1) a document which emanates from an authority or an official connected with the courts or tribunals of the State, including those emanating from a public prosecutor, a clerk of a court, or a process server, (2) administrative documents, (3) notarial acts, (4) official certificates placed on documents signed by persons in their private capacity, such as those recording the registration of a document or the fact that it was in existence on a certain date and official and notarial authentication of signatures. Also called public record.

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You remind me of Ponzi's lawyers defending Ponzi's right to privacy when regulators wanted to see his collateral.

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And whose job is it to check ? - it would probably fall to something like the CIA who supposedly employed obama in college as an asset and whose views he seems to mirror much closer than he should.

As far as the Donald goes - if not Obama it would have been mcinsane and even if obama is "exposed" great America looks like clowns our dollars loses value and China gets another step up and buys the Donalds properties with our tax dollars - yea!

The birthers could put all the energy into trying to make America better instead of tearing it down so I say fuc em.

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Excuse me? I don't see where your text lists a person's birth certificate as a public document.

Hawaii Won't Release Obama BC: Against State Law to Release Private Documents

Democratic Gov. Neil Abercrombie will end his quest to prove President Barack Obama was born in Hawaii because it’s against state law to release private documents, his office said Friday.

State Attorney General David Louie told the governor he can’t disclose an individual’s birth documentation without a person’s consent, Abercrombie spokeswoman Donalyn Dela Cruz said.

Originally posted by beijingyank
One should engage brain before typing dribble.

I couldn't agree more.

Originally posted by getreadyalready
But the more I talk about him, and the more people debate against him or for the other candidates, the more I support Trump.

That's cool. Do you know how he stands on the issues that you're concerned with or do you just feel we need something so different than what we've had before that you're willing to take the chance with an extreme personality?

Its kind of like choosing between "feces" on toast, or "feces" on crackers.

I hear that.

Now, more importantly, would you support me for president? I have no money, and I have filed bankruptcy twice myself, so I am not much better than Trump in that regard. BUT, I am honest, sincere, open-minded, and have two decades of leadership experience.

I would have to know where you stand on the issues, especially the ones I'm concerned about, but I do find that you're honest, sincere and open-minded, so yes, if I agree with you on the major issues, and you had good financial advisers, I definitely would. Wait, what race are you? j/k.

I think we need a regular Joe that wants to serve for purely patriotic reasons.

My husband always says that anyone that runs for elected office shouldn't be allowed to hold it.

Dr. Jerome Corsi hired two investigators and sent them to Hawaii and looked into Soetoro's birth.
No proof of birth. He also has used several SS# in his phony life.

Originally posted by dereks

Originally posted by backinblack
Funny how you deflect from the issue at hand..

Wrong, it is the issue at hand - why are birthers demanding that Obama provides them with a copy of his long form birth certificate, when no other President had to show theirs? Simply because Obama is black, and racists hate the USA having a black POTUS!

Absolutely preposterously wrong wrong wrong!!!!!!!!!! I would vote for Allen West or Hermain Cain, or even Condi Rice in a heartbeat. Obama is just too much of a radical marxist with an out of touch ideology. Too bad Colin Powell showed his true ideology by going with the radicals this time...or hmmmm....wonder why he went with the Democrats this time...

Originally posted by OutKast Searcher
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Well, you have one thing right...it will be on hell of an election season.

Good comedy, the repulican candidate field is like one big clown car...the clowns just keep on coming out. I would pay money to see a Palin vs Trump debate...I think they could put it on PPV as a comedy event.


As far as investigating Obama...you would think if Obama is really as bad of a President as all the republicans say he is...then they wouldn't even have to bother with silly "birther" issues. But it appears that is all they have...attempt to disqualify him or bring up fake impeachment charges.

I guess they are that scared of Obama.

Those silly "birthers" Best they can come up with is He could have never been the President in the first place. Surely they could have done better than that.

How about his violation of Article 1 section 9 becoming the first US President to accept the head of the United Nations Security Council.

Or if in nothing more than poor taste delivering a speech from the foot of Hitlers Reichstag memorial in Berlin during his apparent run for President of the World.

But no. those silly "birthers" want to focus on how he never could have been President in the first place.

Mood - Illogical (indeed)

Originally posted by RRJ58
Dr. Jerome Corsi hired two investigators and sent them to Hawaii and looked into Soetoro's birth.
No proof of birth. He also has used several SS# in his phony life.

Yes, that is true. Corsi really exposed Obama well before the election, but the race and class warfare party already had its claws in the election.

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Ha ha oh please! Those are just bonus points on top of his illegitimate presidency, along with his communist associations and letting the UN dictate our foreign policy. And how about the EO giving Interpol special priveleges in the US? He's king of the UN. Every hear of his Global Poverty Act which did not pass but would have mandated 0.7% of US GDP annually to the UN to redistribute to the nations of the world, and that's over and above what we already give. And here it is, and just to be un partisan, a few of the most liberal Repubs also supported it www.crossroad.to...

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LIke what? Why doesn't he tell us? How does anyone know that Obama spent $2 million in legal fees regarding his birth certificate?

Originally posted by RRJ58
Dr. Jerome Corsi hired two investigators and sent them to Hawaii and looked into Soetoro's birth.
No proof of birth. He also has used several SS# in his phony life.

Dr. Michael Smith was present at the birth and has vouched for Obama being born in the US.

This is a fun game! I could make stuff up all day long!

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The November 2008 edition of the German magazine Der Spiegel, in which Soros gives his opinion on what the next POTUS (President of the U. S. ) should do after taking office. "I think we need a large stimulus package." Soros thought that around 600 billion dollars would be about right. Soros also said that, "I think Obama presents us a great opportunity to finally deal with global warming and energy dependence. The U. S. needs a cap and trade system with auctioning of licenses for emissions rights."

And I know this fella wasn't born in the United States.

Playin him like a Harp from Hell.