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Trump sends investigators to Hawaii to look into Obama !!

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posted on Apr, 8 2011 @ 01:13 PM
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IMO Obama is playing the "Trump Card" similar to how Clinton played the Ross Perot card. I expect the birther issue to die down then Trump run as an independent, which will split millions of votes of independents and undecideds among the republican candidate and Trump, allowing Obama to win a second term and I think the white house and Obama backers are behind this Trump running for President scam.

I always felt Clinton supporters financed Perot to take votes from Bush 1 and I suspect this is the white house and Obama backers playing that card trick again.

Without Perot, we wouldnt even remember the name Clinton.



posted on Apr, 8 2011 @ 01:15 PM
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Honestly Id love to see a Ron Paul/Donald Trump run. Of course Id rather see Ron Paul/Jesse Ventura, but I doubt he'll ever leave the republican party.



posted on Apr, 8 2011 @ 01:26 PM
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Originally posted by meathed
Are we sure Trump wasn't sending the investigators out to look for a soul or brain for himself or just looking for a new wig.
If im wrong well im FIRED then.

edit on 7-4-2011 by meathed because: (no reason given)


Yes. Maybe they can grab you one or two of those items as well while they are out, possibly even a side order of ettiquet too.



posted on Apr, 8 2011 @ 01:29 PM
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For all that's being discussed here, You people need to remember how the Fed Gov works, or are we dis-regarding what happened to Karen Silkwood, Vince Foster, etc. Should Obama be exposed for the fraud I have very good reason to believe, The last thing in this world Don Trump or his team investigators would want to do is get on board an airliner. Mark my words...... MM



posted on Apr, 8 2011 @ 02:02 PM
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Show the BC and its all good? Wrong, show the B.C and then where do you draw the line? Its a non issue. Showing the BC will only exasberatbe other non issues. Your country is bankrupt, no health care, wars, crime, poverty, unemployment and is the most hated nation on earth. But you care about the birth certificate? Where are your priorities?



posted on Apr, 8 2011 @ 02:11 PM
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At least the advent of the internet has ppl conspiracy theorizing about the first black president's birthplace, rather than some nut putting a bullet into Obama.

When he was elected, I felt afraid for him and his family. I honestly did not think much of America was ready to have a black president. I thought he would have been shot at by now. Though now it seems similar to what pedeophiles do nowadays. Rather than acting in an analog fashion and driving around for the hunt, the sickos sit at home and digitally browse. It's easier. Seems the same here with Obama. I suppose it's much easier to slander a man and try to ruin him from your couch while while chewing on Cheetos than it is to dig out a few rifle rounds and find a rooftop.

So I say Donald Trump may actually be helping the president.



posted on Apr, 8 2011 @ 02:20 PM
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Originally posted by spyder550
I would like the people who claim the 2 million dollar number to show some proof.


I would like Obama to show us the vault copy. What's he hiding with that 2 million?
Why not just show it?



posted on Apr, 8 2011 @ 02:24 PM
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because that would be giving in to a weak point. And do you really want your CEO to bow down to weak points?



posted on Apr, 8 2011 @ 02:27 PM
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What 2 million?

Care to post credible source to the claim that he has spent 2 million in covering up anything?
I'm curious. I thought that was debunked last year, but I heard Trump say it also. I cannot find any evidence to support this claim myself.



posted on Apr, 8 2011 @ 03:12 PM
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Originally posted by FlySolo
reply to post by AndrewJay
 


Show the BC and its all good? Wrong, show the B.C and then where do you draw the line? Its a non issue. Showing the BC will only exasberatbe other non issues. Your country is bankrupt, no health care, wars, crime, poverty, unemployment and is the most hated nation on earth. But you care about the birth certificate? Where are your priorities?


My priorities? Show the BC and lay the arguement to rest so that we can focus on all those other issues. This is an EASY fix. Either he has the BC or he doesnt. Either he gets thrown out or he continues to work on these issues. You cant lead a nation when you're being questioned by your people and he should see that in itself as good enough reason to just show the BC.



posted on Apr, 8 2011 @ 03:19 PM
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Originally posted by spyder550
He bankrupted a Casino How does one bankrupt a casino


All part of the American Business Plan baby...don'tcha know?

People use the word BANKRUPTCY like it is a bad word...it is for the little people, but not for the Elite.



posted on Apr, 8 2011 @ 03:23 PM
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Maybe he has no birth certificate because he was not born of earth and is the anti christ. hahaha I am just kidding, but I am glad trump is looking into the issue. People say its not an issue, but it is. You need to be born a US citizen to be a president. That is how it is and how it should be.



posted on Apr, 8 2011 @ 03:29 PM
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What an attention whore.

Hope to God no one has the illogical mindset to vote for Trump. What happened to wanting someone who stands up for the common man?

PAUL 2012!!!



posted on Apr, 8 2011 @ 03:34 PM
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OK, what is with the Paul worship?

I support his views, but I don't support him as a candidate, because he doesn't even take himself seriously. He basically ran on an anarchy platform last go around, or at least he allowed others to do it for him. He frequents the AJ show. In my opinion, he does not want to be president, because he won't give it a serious campaign.

On the other hand, we have Trump. He is definitely flawed, but he has decades of leadership experience. He has ran companies into the ground, and then rebuilt them again successfully. He is a proven leader that knows how to surround himself with intelligent folks to make good decisions instead of just cronyism and political favors.

The country is in bankruptcy. Who better to get out of it, than someone that has gotten out of it a few times themself? The government is in chaos, and will likely shutdown tonight. Who better to fix it than an accomplished executive that will hire a team of top notch consultants and advisors?

I'm sorry, I like Paul's views, but he is not a leader. We need a leader, with vision, that will employ somebody like Paul, and then follow the good advice.



posted on Apr, 8 2011 @ 03:46 PM
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Originally posted by getreadyalready
reply to post by SeventhSeal
 


OK, what is with the Paul worship?

I support his views, but I don't support him as a candidate, because he doesn't even take himself seriously. He basically ran on an anarchy platform last go around, or at least he allowed others to do it for him. He frequents the AJ show. In my opinion, he does not want to be president, because he won't give it a serious campaign.

On the other hand, we have Trump. He is definitely flawed, but he has decades of leadership experience. He has ran companies into the ground, and then rebuilt them again successfully. He is a proven leader that knows how to surround himself with intelligent folks to make good decisions instead of just cronyism and political favors.

The country is in bankruptcy. Who better to get out of it, than someone that has gotten out of it a few times themself? The government is in chaos, and will likely shutdown tonight. Who better to fix it than an accomplished executive that will hire a team of top notch consultants and advisors?

I'm sorry, I like Paul's views, but he is not a leader. We need a leader, with vision, that will employ somebody like Paul, and then follow the good advice.


So because he talks to Alex Jones he cant be president? Awesome, please let me in on this logic. Oh he doesnt take his run seriously now? Obviously you havent seen the 2008 debates where he put every republican candidate in their place while recieving an standing applause. Dont believe me? Oh, well if youtube doesnt do it justice, just look up how he's won the straw poll 2 times in a row...... yea that thing that basically won Ronald Regan his election after winning it once? We can also look at how Fox news laughed at Ron Paul after he OWNED every other republican on stage during the debate to discredit him.

Yes Ron Paul is sooooooooooooooooooo horrible because hes for the constitution, the American people and OUR COUNTRY instead of the banks and wallstreet.

edit: the country is in bankrupcy because the Federal Reserve continue to go on their money stealing spree of scamming the American people while the politicans in government dare NOT speak out against it because.... and lets be honest here, thats what got JFK killed. Trying to go against the FED and print his own currency.
edit on 8-4-2011 by AndrewJay because: (no reason given)



posted on Apr, 8 2011 @ 03:52 PM
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I didn't say he was horrible. I entirely agree with his politics. I just said I can't take him seriously if he won't take him self seriously. I don't think he would be a good leader.

Yes, appearances on the AJ show is a huge blow to any credibility.

The Re"LOVE"ution stickers and shirts didn't help much either. Neither did the graffiti campaign they launched in my town and many others.

And who the hell was that running mate that he chose?


If he declares himself now, does real fundraising, makes real appearances on real shows, and picks a legitimate presidential running mate, then maybe he can sway me over to his side, but I am positive he won't do any of that.



posted on Apr, 8 2011 @ 03:57 PM
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I will reserve my judgements on this for now. However, if there is anything to be found that Obama is hiding from us, Donald Trump is certainly wealthy enough to discover whatever it may be.

Alternatively, the trump man has enough money to make false evidence as well, I'm sure. hmmm....



posted on Apr, 8 2011 @ 03:58 PM
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Originally posted by getreadyalready
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I didn't say he was horrible. I entirely agree with his politics. I just said I can't take him seriously if he won't take him self seriously. I don't think he would be a good leader.

Yes, appearances on the AJ show is a huge blow to any credibility.

The Re"LOVE"ution stickers and shirts didn't help much either. Neither did the graffiti campaign they launched in my town and many others.

And who the hell was that running mate that he chose?


If he declares himself now, does real fundraising, makes real appearances on real shows, and picks a legitimate presidential running mate, then maybe he can sway me over to his side, but I am positive he won't do any of that.



Like Ive said before in this thread, Id love to see him run with Jess Ventura. What say you if Trump chose him as his running mate or vice versa though? I like Trump. I like the way he thinks and I think he's a great alternative to Paul. The question in my mind is he for our country or is he for himself? Hes a business man (obviously) and whos to say he doesnt sell out just as easily as he speaks against that which has killed our economy to date?

As for Alex Jones I still find myself having to defend this man in almost every thread I post in here. Always I ask the question why is this man so bad? Because he shows his emotion on air? Because he attempts to sell gold and places ads on his broadcast to fund his show? I simply cannot understand how or why this man is so hated when he brings so much truth to those that wouldnt have it without him..... and how does it discredit Paul by going on his show? Please explain this to me once and for all.



posted on Apr, 8 2011 @ 03:58 PM
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This is great legal speak. "Well, when someone brings a lawsuit against you...you have to pay a lawyer to represent you no matter how ridiculous the lawsuit is."

Why it makes perfect sense to me.

If someone sues someone to produce a public document that would cost $12, why it sure makes perfect sense to everyone that hiring a team of lawyers and ring up a legal bill of $2,000,000 "no matter how ridiculous the lawsuit is" is the best way to go.

rotflmao...

It's always wise to follow the money. Where is Barry getting the dough for the lovely lawyers? Could it be coming from The Annenberg Foundation? You know this foundation that Barry worked for and owns "Fact Check?" No conflict of interest here at all.

rotflmao



edit on 8-4-2011 by beijingyank because: elaboration

edit on 8-4-2011 by beijingyank because: grammar



posted on Apr, 8 2011 @ 04:00 PM
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Originally posted by AndrewJay
Show the BC and lay the arguement to rest so that we can focus on all those other issues.


You are free to focus on other issues.You speak as if you don't have a choice and Obama is holding you hostage to this birth certificate issue. You're free to go.

reply to post by getreadyalready
 


I completely agree with your assessment of Ron Paul, sadly. He is not a leader.


Originally posted by getreadyalready
On the other hand, we have Trump. He is definitely flawed, but he has decades of leadership experience. He has ran companies into the ground, and then rebuilt them again successfully. He is a proven leader that knows how to surround himself with intelligent folks to make good decisions instead of just cronyism and political favors.

The country is in bankruptcy. Who better to get out of it, than someone that has gotten out of it a few times themself? The government is in chaos, and will likely shutdown tonight. Who better to fix it than an accomplished executive that will hire a team of top notch consultants and advisors?


Am I hearing that you would support Trump? Is he a Republican or Independent?

To the original topic: What are people in this thread thinking Trump will find in Hawaii? He can't get the birth certificate or hospital records... What can he find to resolve this issue either way?




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