.....Next level......

Originally posted by yets777
reply to post by ProtoplasmicTraveler

 

we were born to help eachother. it's all in the manner and heights of your effort how u pull one upwards.

You don't get to define my existence only I get to define my existence and while the weakminded and enslaved might like for others to define what they fear having to do for themselves, I do not suffer this peculiar and rather unnatractive condition.

Originally posted by HUMBLEONE
I feel like I'm playing a computer game and I'm about to make it to the next level. I am however, overlooking the one thing I need to do to finish this level. I feel it's right in front of me and I just can't see it. I am getting frustrated, because I know it's a little,simple thing. I just can't see it. Ok, this is really starting to piss me off! I am SO friggin bored with this game right now! Where the HELL are the cheat codes?!!!

Final lesson.......Majority rules so lead by example to spread the word and shift balance. Limits lifted with joint belief. Do so and entrance granted. Do not do so and intention is for self power alone and thus will be denied.

reply to post by Brianegan


My friend, while i appreciate your intention, you do not have the ability to judge me.

You.. did hear what i said, right?

reply to post by ProtoplasmicTraveler


u clearly want to win a battle here and ill let you, my intention by hanging on here was to try making u see all in a less selfish way

Originally posted by Aquarius1
reply to post by Brianegan

 

Excellent post, I wish you luck on your journey, it looks like you are well on your way. The answers are within and the only way is self discovery.

This won't happen for others until they let go of the dogma, religeon etc., all you need it yourself.

I Am

After much thought and following this thread I have changed my mind, I agree with Proto, the only way is within ourselves, no one can do it for you and I choose to follow no one.

reply to post by yets777


i am not so sure, if one truly sees all things as "self," then selfishness wouldnt be so bad of a thing, would it?

Originally posted by sinohptik
reply to post by yets777

 

i am not so sure, if one truly sees all things as "self," then selfishness wouldnt be so bad of a thing, would it?

you go into the self or centre to connect to the us or we or am i wrong

Originally posted by yets777
reply to post by ProtoplasmicTraveler

 

u clearly want to win a battle here and ill let you, my intention by hanging on here was to try making u see all in a less selfish way

Pretty selfish thing of you to do. While praising a guy who wants to judge everyone, end the world, and punish anyone who won't listen to him.

Doesn't matter how many times you say it's midnight at noon.

It's still noon.

You are simply trolling for attention.

Your Master has pretty much exposed himself for the fraud that he is.

My work is done here, Proto helps people when he chooses, that does not include a free baby sitting service.

Do your homework and wash behind your ears and remember lights out at 11.

Thanks.

Originally posted by sinohptik
reply to post by Brianegan

 

My friend, while i appreciate your intention, you do not have the ability to judge me.

You.. did hear what i said, right?

You judged yourself......I made no mistake. Please do not stray.....Please....you are walking a line that tends to result in intentional disregard for the truth. In other words you are walking the same path as truth but just on the other side of the street. You know the truth so please do not be ashamed show how wonderful you can really be. lead by example by prohibiting any negative thoughts at all and only act on the pure positive ones. Please....

Original message stands

Originally posted by Aquarius1

Originally posted by Aquarius1
reply to post by Brianegan

 

Excellent post, I wish you luck on your journey, it looks like you are well on your way. The answers are within and the only way is self discovery.

This won't happen for others until they let go of the dogma, religeon etc., all you need it yourself.

I Am

After much thought and following this thread I have changed my mind, I agree with Proto, the only way is within ourselves, no one can do it for you and I choose to follow no one.

except proto......Lead by example by showing only love for all and gain entrance. Continue on that new path and access will be denied as you will have in turn denied the one who grants it..

Originally posted by laffoe
PS
I love you
Count me into 'we' and 'us'!

hug huug my friend

if make some sense to us keep it if not just throw it away, this was in my head, nevermind just sharing,

...tricky minds is waste of TIME
interesting But sad
to hear some Words from the guys
Because WE CARE what you find
BECAUSE this is the meaning of our path
We ARE ALL one dont forget to be proud
to Have a sister or a brother EVEN far
cause in the final TIMES we will be JUST ONE


Take care Laffoe

ps glad to see your mom is back

Originally posted by sinohptik
reply to post by yets777

 

i am not so sure, if one truly sees all things as "self," then selfishness wouldnt be so bad of a thing, would it?

You are both right.

Originally posted by zaper

Originally posted by laffoe
PS
I love you
Count me into 'we' and 'us'!

hug huug my friend

if make some sense to us keep it if not just throw it away, this was in my head, nevermind just sharing,

...tricky minds is waste of TIME
interesting But sad
to hear some Words from the guys
Because WE CARE what you find
BECAUSE this is the meaning of our path
We ARE ALL one dont forget to be proud
to Have a sister or a brother EVEN far
cause in the final TIMES we will be JUST ONE


Take care Laffoe

ps glad to see your mom is back

Harmony found and love spread consistantly......entrance granted. do not stray.

reply to post by Brianegan

At this point no belief system matters. Lead by example. Be good to everyone and you will be the living truth.

How can I be the living truth if I cannot prove where others are wrong and correct their path? The living truth would have no problem articulating where someone has erred and why. Others would see the living truth behind the explanation and it would be an irresistible force. I have found this force in a video as well that is helping me along my way. It is subtle, but you must watch the audience members and the light at the end!

reply to post by Brianegan


As i said, i appreciate your intention. After all the rush wears off, you will be more open to hearing others voices though. So, my friend, ill leave you to it for now. You are doing a good job, just realize that other people need to decide to do it for themselves and dont be dissapointed in your self because of others decisions. help them do that based on how you did it, but realize someone else can and will be vastly different. support that. the true extent of that can only be learned by experience you might think that you have experienced things that no one else understands, but its not a competition against others, its what you do with the presented information. there is no limit as far as these perspectives are concerned and if focused on mindfully, the growth can be great. but it never, ever stops. thats an important thing to realize, all things are in constant motion and our perspective is a growing, but limited window into the happenings. just make sure you keep growing other perspectives are like distant lands, worthy of exploration.

Originally posted by jackflap
reply to post by Brianegan

 

At this point no belief system matters. Lead by example. Be good to everyone and you will be the living truth.

How can I be the living truth if I cannot prove where others are wrong and correct their path? The living truth would have no problem articulating where someone has erred and why. Others would see the living truth behind the explanation and it would be an irresistible force. I have found this force in a video as well that is helping me along my way. It is subtle, but you must watch the audience members and the light at the end!

Actions speak louder than words and almost defening in volume difference any more..Words have been twisted and normal everyday conversation falls short of the wall..Lead by example..To many defences are up and actions will lead the way. Have faith. and lead by example......You would only be repeating the explanation that has already been offered as long as you are hand in hand with love.....Lead by example.

reply to post by Brianegan

Actions speak louder than words and almost defening in volume difference any more..Words have been twisted and normal everyday conversation falls short of the wall..Lead by example..To many defences are up and actions will lead the way. Have faith. and lead by example......You would only be repeating the explanation that has already been offered as long as you are hand in hand with love.....Lead by example.

I believe you have hit the nail on the head. There is such a thing as tough love around this realm and I believe I will start using it as you have. Thanks for leading by example and showing me how its done. Like right here.

except proto......Lead by example by showing only love for all and gain entrance. Continue on that new path and access will be denied as you will have in turn denied the one who grants it

Show only love and exclude those who do not agree with my actions because some people just never learn. I'll show them alright. Hey, anyone else wanna disagree with me and Brianegan? Well then your excluded too!

Man, your right that felt good. I don't have to teach them anything if they cant see my actions as good because I've defined them that way. I know I'm right and who cares about those who cannot understand what I'm all about. If they cant see it well then that's their own fault, not mine baby.

Let's get on with some serious leading by example my friend because you have just unleashed the bomb in me! I actually stopped meditating on this song a while ago because I felt it was a facet of my journey that was in conflict with my overall mission. Although I was sad about giving it up, I did. Now I see that I was right all along. Check this tune and tell me we aren't spot on with those who cannot understand where we're coming from?

I'll check back in a bit, I'm going to visit that acquaintance I was talking about in my earlier post. He needs a little taste of this example I'm going to lead him with alright.

Originally posted by sinohptik
reply to post by Brianegan

 

As i said, i appreciate your intention. After all the rush wears off, you will be more open to hearing others voices though. So, my friend, ill leave you to it for now. You are doing a good job, just realize that other people need to decide to do it for themselves and dont be dissapointed in your self because of others decisions. help them do that based on how you did it, but realize someone else can and will be vastly different. support that. the true extent of that can only be learned by experience

you might think that you have experienced things that no one else understands, but its not a competition against others, its what you do with the presented information. there is no limit as far as these perspectives are concerned and if focused on mindfully, the growth can be great. but it never, ever stops. thats an important thing to realize, all things are in constant motion and our perspective is a growing, but limited window into the happenings. just make sure you keep growing

other perspectives are like distant lands, worthy of exploration.

Truth met.

Originally posted by jackflap
reply to post by Brianegan

 

Actions speak louder than words and almost defening in volume difference any more..Words have been twisted and normal everyday conversation falls short of the wall..Lead by example..To many defences are up and actions will lead the way. Have faith. and lead by example......You would only be repeating the explanation that has already been offered as long as you are hand in hand with love.....Lead by example.

I believe you have hit the nail on the head. There is such a thing as tough love around this realm and I believe I will start using it as you have. Thanks for leading by example and showing me how its done. Like right here.

except proto......Lead by example by showing only love for all and gain entrance. Continue on that new path and access will be denied as you will have in turn denied the one who grants it

Show only love and exclude those who do not agree with my actions because some people just never learn. I'll show them alright. Hey, anyone else wanna disagree with me and Brianegan? Well then your excluded too!

Man, your right that felt good. I don't have to teach them anything if they cant see my actions as good because I've defined them that way. I know I'm right and who cares about those who cannot understand what I'm all about. If they cant see it well then that's their own fault, not mine baby.

Let's get on with some serious leading by example my friend because you have just unleashed the bomb in me! I actually stopped meditating on this song a while ago because I felt it was a facet of my journey that was in conflict with my overall mission. Although I was sad about giving it up, I did. Now I see that I was right all along. Check this tune and tell me we aren't spot on with those who cannot understand where we're coming from?

I'll check back in a bit, I'm going to visit that acquaintance I was talking about in my earlier post. He needs a little taste of this example I'm going to lead him with alright.

edit on 8-4-2011 by jackflap because: I'm not really sure.

Be sure not to lose your compasion for your lost family as they traveled to far and have forgotten their way home. Be mindful to not promote fighting even with words. You do not have to defend the truth because the truth stands strong on its own. Many doubt the truth because there isnt enough example to learn from. Be sure not to confuse leading by example with forcing your beliefs. The choice is always up to them.

Show your compassion by your example and if that wasnt enough than they have traveled to far away so continue your compassion by mourning their chosen fate.

You are not wrong and are free to lead with strength and a true leader has sympathy for those who can not understand anymore. I hope you find success and remember that if your friends path is leading them to spread love than you are both right. the only wrong comes when competetion begins.

A few thoughts to all of this thread.

I recall from my Bible studies, long ago. That Jesus took off for the wilderness and there underwent three temptations. Now an understanding of this was that it was necessary for him to undergo these temptations in order for him to undertake his public ministry. So some say.

I think that may be so but I don't know. What I do think is that these temptations, which some say come from the devil, I think may just be transitional phases in individual development. Ya see? Just rights of individual passage.

The final temptation was if I remember correctly was when he was offered all the world if he would just bow down first. Well, who knows. I have found though that there is this messiah complex some call it. I kinda see it as the same as that third temptation.

I met a man years ago. He was a street preacher and poet. Not Christian, he stood alone all around town speaking with people here and there and handing out leaflets with his poetry. I saw him often, taking hiis poetry and giving him donations. His poetry was very spiritual. He would always start strong in great depth with words flowing freely. The last time I saw him, I asked him if he ever thought he might be Jesus or the messiah and how did he deal with these thoughts.

His reply was that he often had but had come to understand that this was just a natural phase for some to pass through in cleansing themselves of the old mental phrasings. He smiled and looke at me and said" Good luck with that. You'll get through it."

I've known people who were passing this threshold. Some make it through and others shy away from it. While others still arrive there and get stuck and end up forming cults. Or rather cults end up forming around them adding to the stresses of the passage.

I now like to travel with these folk for a while. I have found that those who are pushing through this phase for themselves can appear to have messiah complexes and at the same time have interesting insights on aspects of spirit that have escaped me in my own journey. My approach is to let this take its course as mine did.

NOW LISTEN UP SINNERS.

Just kidding. I'm really enjoying this current in the stream of ATS. I'm appreciating the numerous approaches to the issues and I hope learning from them all. Thank you all.